True Dota 2 - I've seen PPD spamming a ton of Lion in his pubs since the spring cleaning. Is the Mana Drain buff really enough to bring him back?


I've seen PPD spamming a ton of Lion in his pubs since the spring cleaning. Is the Mana Drain buff really enough to bring him back?

Posted: 05 Feb 2018 06:41 AM PST

Basically what the title says. Been seeing a lot more lion lately in high level pubs I've watched, is he coming back to meta?

Either way, I haven't played him in over 9 months, whats the current preferred build on him if I want to start playing him again?

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Support Leshrac?

Posted: 05 Feb 2018 01:16 PM PST

With the reduction of mana cost on his stun as well as the changes to mana regen I feel like Lesh support can be viable. Without any regen whatsoever you can cast stun 5 times. His stun lasts 2 seconds and does 120 damage on level 1. This amounts to 600 damage and 10 seconds worth of stun all without any regen needed. With the changes to mana regen I feel like Lesh could get by easily without a bloodstone and be able to just use euls for mana without any issues. Support lesh may be squishier than a core lesh but you'll still do the same damage regardless. Most of core leshrac item choices push him to be more of a tanky front liner but all that farm does is make him tanky. He still does the same amount of damage as a support but he can do that damage from the backline rather than getting up into everybodies faces. That farm can then go to a core than can utilize it more than leshrac. Thoughts?

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Is there a point when it's better to right click continuously as storm instead of spending the extra bit of time to charge an overload?

Posted: 05 Feb 2018 06:48 AM PST

Charging an overload via storms R takes a little bit of time and delays his next attack. Is there a certain damage/attack speed where you would deal more damage by continuously right clicking rather than attacking-charging-attacking etc?

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Undying talent discussion

Posted: 05 Feb 2018 06:17 AM PST

Undying has some really interesting talents, and I would like to discuss Talent Choice.

  • Level 10 - +8 health Regen/+100 cast range: Here he has two choice, 100 cast range, and 8 health regen. The cast range seems not so needed, as he is tanky enough to stay near the fight, and his cast ranges are already pretty good, on the other hand 8 health regen seems so much better, since he is already very tanky, and will be soaking up damage sometimes, he will gain a lot from the regen, and it can help him way more than the cast range.

  • Level 15: +20 decay duration/Tombstone on death - On the first hand, the Tombstone on death sounds amazing, tombstone is really strong, why not take it? especially since all the other talent does is increase the decay's duration by 1/3, where 60 seconds is more than enough ussually. The main problem is, that undying is very tanky. He has a lot of strength, steals a lot of strength(especially when and if he gets aghs later on), has heals, heals every time someone dies near him in a fight, probably has the regen talent, and all in all unless he is bursted down, he should survive the fights a lot. Meaning that the talent wont be used too much. On the other hand, the 20 second talent turns decay to an 80 second duration skill, making it very very scary in every stage of the game, especially if he gets aghs later on. I think that these two are very debateable, and should be chosen based on how strong the enemy is, and if they can kill u quickly in a fight.

  • Level 20: +3 tombstone attacks/+30 Tombstone Zombie damage - I think that here is more of the question, are they destroying the tombstone to quickly? While 3 tombstone attacks is a lot, and sounds good, at the stage that undying is level 20, the zombies deal almost no damage, and the slow is the biggest thing. If you took the tombstone on death talent, then i think that taking the +30 damage is the best, since killing 2 tombstones is hard as is, and it will make the zombies deal a lot of damage. On the other hand if not, and you feel that the tombstone is dying to quickly, I think that 3 attacks might be worth it sometimes.

  • Level 25: -2 Decay Cooldown/Gains Reincarnation 200 CD: I must say that this one is hard. At this point, if caught off guard, you will die, no matter how tanky you are, but having that second life in a fight is extremely useful. On the other hand, at level 25 you should be already really fucking tanky, and hard to kill, moreover, at this stage it is likely that you have that aghs, and having decay on 2 seconds cooldown, will not only make you really hard to kill, but will also make you "deal" insane damage, as each time you use it you take 10 strength, and its on 2 seconds cooldown. I do not know what talent is best here, but I think that the 2 second decay should always have a spot in your mind.

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What are the best split pushing cores this patch?

Posted: 05 Feb 2018 10:19 AM PST

Slark, anti mage and dark seer all seem pretty bad right now. What heroes are decent farmers, have some way to push, and can hit towers and get away?

Maybe PL or Jugg, but I don't really think of them as split pushers...

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Earth Spirit and Aeon Disk

Posted: 05 Feb 2018 09:39 AM PST

Let's say I already have Tranqs, Fstaff and blink. Would Aeon disk be a good build next?

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Dragon Knight radiance rush plus octarine late game

Posted: 05 Feb 2018 11:07 AM PST

Is rushing radiance a bad idea? Boots-> Soul ring-> radiance. I see armlet rush to be the most common but outside of teamfights, the item seems bad on him(extra regen which is redundant and ult of dk has long cooldown). My thoughts is that since dk is already durable with his passive, he can be a good tank for the team in late game. So the purpose of radiance is to secure the farm.

Then octarine core mainly for the cooldown reduction of his fire and stun. The bonus lifesteal from skills also synergizes with radiance. Other items depend but I think probably a heart, assault c(maybe more armor is unnecessary but attack speed is important).

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Meteor Hammer on Undy

Posted: 04 Feb 2018 04:55 PM PST

I'm really liking this on Undying. The stats are everything he needs, it covers 2 of his biggest drawbacks, farming waves & pushing towers. I feel undying is flexible enough in his build to fit this in. Of course if you're needing a mek, get that, but as a 2nd item it's a good pickup. Thoughts?

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How to deal with passive aggressive and childish teammates?

Posted: 05 Feb 2018 01:03 PM PST

Hey guys,

It happened to me twice in the past 2 weeks and I really did not know how to handle the situations. The more I try to reason with them and the more I try to explain the situation.

high 3k bracket

Situation A - At the start of the draft I said that I will most likely pick a Lycan and I suggested for the person who wanted to support my lane to pick SS or something that can help with the push and he picked it. When it was my turn to pick ( last pick), it was an ok Lycan game but a perfect PL game. Mid also approved the PL pick and I picked it. My lane partner went ape shit for "lying", went passive aggresive and then refused to lane with me.

My roaming Bounty and I were forced to play against a really strong offensive tri lane. We lost all 3 lanes and the game due to the guy's passive aggressiveness and refusal to play with me because I did not pick Lycan.

Situation B - I decided to pick a safelane Razor against Aba, Sven and Monkey king tri core ( it was a good razor game in my opinion). This time, both of my supports refused to support me because I did not pick a "Meta" carry and when I explained that I've been finding success with Razor and many pro players are picking this hero up in similar scenarios, they started flaming me and at the start of the game asked the other team to report me... Was forced to 1 v 3 again.

I honestly don't know what to do, in both games I was getting soo much abuse and flame that I was forced to mute them...

Is there anything I can do or are these games doomed from the start ?

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