Super Smash Bros - Truth or Dair Thanksgiving Edition!

Truth or Dair Thanksgiving Edition!
Daily Discussion Thread 11/23/17
Smash History's Top 100 Players of All-Time: Introduction and Methodology
A refined version of the Melee airdodge mod
New Guaranteed Crowd Gasps in Melee
Why Mr. Game and Watch is Hilariously Underrated
How Port Priority Can Affect Your Game - Super Smash Bros. Melee - SSBM Tutorials
Melee esports viewership in October 2017
Armada's thoughts on a better experience for new/low level players
Hype Documentary about ZeRo's World Record streak and how Nairo managed to break it by TheScoreEsports
Is Super Smash Bros. Melee the most consistent game you know?
'Cloud is King' - Cloud Combo Video starring Tweek
the thanksgiving dedede scared the shit out of me
Prize Pool breakdown for the $50,000 2GG Championship next weekend!
Played a casual smash tournament last week and made a comment on someone's preferred character and they immediately switched off.
Midwest Mayhem 10: Top 32 Seeds
Creative conversion by PG SuPeRbOoMfAn
2GG Championship Player Profile - WaDi
ICONIC Esports Moments: Nairo Ends the Incredible Streak (MLG 2015 - Smash)
Unused Animation in SSB64
How to NOT fight Ganondorf 2
aMSa now has a coach!
I made a small change to Nintendont so you can't turn off Native Control. Download!
MD/VA Invitational Trailer
llod's Take on the Neutral Game: How to Improve at Smash Bros

Posted: 23 Nov 2017 10:01 AM PST

Welcome (back) to Truth Or Dair!

The rules of Truth or Dair are simple. Comment Truth for a question of any type - relating to smash of course.

Comment Dair for a Smash challenge (Add 64, M, B, PM, 3DS, or 4 for game preferences). If you pick Dair, please try to provide some form of evidence. Yes you can do both!

Please stick around and post your own questions and challenges to the other participants!

Most importantly: Have fun!

And Happy Thanksgiving all!

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Daily Discussion Thread 11/23/17

Posted: 22 Nov 2017 11:09 PM PST

Welcome to the Daily Discussion Thread series on /r/smashbros! Inspired by /r/SSBM and /r/hiphopheads's DDTs, you can post here:

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Smash History's Top 100 Players of All-Time: Introduction and Methodology

Posted: 23 Nov 2017 02:42 PM PST

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A refined version of the Melee airdodge mod

Posted: 23 Nov 2017 04:22 PM PST

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New Guaranteed Crowd Gasps in Melee

Posted: 23 Nov 2017 04:37 PM PST

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Why Mr. Game and Watch is Hilariously Underrated

Posted: 23 Nov 2017 07:09 AM PST

... in casual play, of course.

Now, I'm not here to say G-dubs is a secret top tier in competitive tournament play. We all know that's not the case. But I strongly believe his true strengths come out in FFAs with items on, and that he's the 3rd-best casual character out there, behind Ganon and Falcon.

Reason 1: The Bucket

Game and Watch's bucket is an incredibly useful tool in items-on matches for one reason: the vast majority of the most dangerous items in the game are explosives.

G&W can bucket every single one of them.

This makes the bucket into a FRAME TWO INSTAKILL "GET OFF ME" OPTION WITH A MASSIVE HITBOX THAT TRUE COMBOS OUT OF UP TILT AND DOWN THROW.

From my casual experience, escape options and "get off me" tools are underrated and crucial in casual play, and G&W has one of the best.

Reason 2: The Trampoline

Even without a full bucket, G&W's up-B puts out a windbox frame 2 and a hitbox frame 9, allowing it to be one of his best escape tools. Besides, its lingering nature makes it an excellent survival move. Finally, it has great synergy with his dair.

Reason 3: The Key

Even more important than an escape option is a landing option, and with Up-B and Dair, G-dubs has both, especially because free-for-alls are too hectic to punish dair's 28 frames of landing lag. Besides, even if you whiff, its frame 1 landing hitbox ensures you get at least some damage off.

Reason 4: The Hammer

Casuals love chaos, and what's more chaotic than the luck-of-the-draw, big-balls kill move, Judge? If you get lucky, G-dubs has ANOTHER super low percent kill option out of down throw.

Reason 5: Windboxes

They can fuck with so many combos, confirms, and simple interactions as a third party, allowing you to swooce right in and get the kill.

Conclusion

Now, I can guarantee /u/dankdorfydisr3spect is going to be right up in that comment section refuting every point I made, and that's alright. I'm just talking from my perspective. And from my perspective, Game and Watch is a surprisingly viable titan of casual play. His bucket neutralizes some of the most dangerous items in the game and turns them into one of the most powerful advantages any character in the game can have, his Up-B and dair are great casual escape and landing options, his hammer is hilariously effective if you get lucky, and his windboxes are just stupid.

Edit: Don't ask me too much though I'm just a simple Cloud main trying to find his way in the universe

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How Port Priority Can Affect Your Game - Super Smash Bros. Melee - SSBM Tutorials

Posted: 23 Nov 2017 10:01 AM PST

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Melee esports viewership in October 2017

Posted: 23 Nov 2017 12:05 PM PST

https://newzoo.com/insights/rankings/top-games-twitch/

After being absent in August and September, Melee is back on the top 10 at 8th, with 1.2 million esports hours watched on Twitch, close to the 1.3M we had in July.

October's biggest tournaments were: GTX's last day, DreamHack Denver, The Big House 7, Canada Cup and Too Hot To Handle.

DH Denver: ~209k hours watched.
CC: ~79k.
THTH: ~25k.

That leaves ~885-900k for TBH7, GTX's last day and all the other tournaments streamed in October.

I couldn't find numbers for TBH7 or GTX's last day because the websites that track twitch viewership are very limited in terms of tracking specific streams within a certain period, and both were mainly streamed by VGBC, which has a ton of different Melee streams in a given month. Still, VGBC had ~745k hours of Melee watched in October, so that should give a rough estimate.

Newzoo takes a while to release the ranking, but I'm pretty sure we'll do well in November again, since Summit 5 alone had ~1.050 million (!) hours of Melee watched.

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Armada's thoughts on a better experience for new/low level players

Posted: 23 Nov 2017 01:11 PM PST

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Hype Documentary about ZeRo's World Record streak and how Nairo managed to break it by TheScoreEsports

Posted: 23 Nov 2017 12:59 PM PST

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Is Super Smash Bros. Melee the most consistent game you know?

Posted: 23 Nov 2017 11:05 AM PST

Personally, I don't closely follow any other competitive scene, but it seems like Melee is just ridiculously consistent. I wonder if there are other games that are just as consistent, if not more than Melee. For instance, chess, go? Turn based games with no rng seem like they would be incredibly consistent to me but I don't really know. I know tennis has a few players that seem to win most things. Those of you who follow other competitive scenes, drop that knowledge!

Edit: I actually don't know if Melee is the most consistent Smash game, if I had to bet on it I'd say so, but perhaps 64 has even less variance? I don't actually know.

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'Cloud is King' - Cloud Combo Video starring Tweek

Posted: 23 Nov 2017 11:10 AM PST

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the thanksgiving dedede scared the shit out of me

Posted: 23 Nov 2017 03:01 AM PST

at least we have someone to join the jigglypuff ghost

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Prize Pool breakdown for the $50,000 2GG Championship next weekend!

Posted: 23 Nov 2017 12:59 PM PST

Hey all Happy Thanksgiving!

Next week is the 2GG Championship and thanks to Esports Arena who hasn't only provided $50,000 in prize pool over the year, but also the remaining $50,000 at our last event to make $100,000 total!

The Prize Pool Breakdown is as illustrated below:

1ST: $20,000

2ND: $10,000

3RD: $5,000

4TH: $3,500

5TH: $2,000

7TH: $1,250

Playoff Stage (2 Smashers Total): $750

Group Stage (10 Smashers Total): $350

This has been the breakdown announced since December 2016 and also under "Prizes" Section at https://smash.gg/2ggchampionship

If you're near Santa Ana, CA don't miss out on this event! Free swag, giveaways, free play, bracket with cash prizes, and more will be happening all weekend.

Of course, if you can't make it then don't forget to tune in at https://www.twitch.tv/2ggaming for the final conclusion of the year!

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Played a casual smash tournament last week and made a comment on someone's preferred character and they immediately switched off.

Posted: 23 Nov 2017 01:06 PM PST

My opponent played mewtwo game 1 and I made a comment like, "Wow I understand peoples complaints about mewtwo now." and game 2 he switched to someone else and after the game earnestly asked if that character was looked down upon. I didnt mean anything extra about the comment, but I feel I came across, "You shouldn't play that character because I/people dont like it." Im used to playing with a different group where typical responses to that kind of comment is, "Yeah, its real good.", "git gud.", or "stop getting caught by it then."

I tried to explain that I used to play Mewtwo a bit and people complained about the up-smash slide to catch air stuff and, after playing against it, I see what they meant now. But I think it was too late and he already didn't want to play him because he didn't want to play someone "cheap" (not a concept I believe in smash.) I hope he just plays who he wants to play, regardless of what his opponents want. I feel bad that I made him feel bad about it.

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Midwest Mayhem 10: Top 32 Seeds

Posted: 23 Nov 2017 12:09 PM PST

1: TSM | ZeRo (Diddy Kong)

2: MVG | Salem (Bayonetta)

3: P1 | Tweek (Cloud)

4: bc | Mr. R (Sheik)

5: Cosmos (Corrin)

6: EG | Zinoto (Diddy Kong)

7: E2C | tyroy (Bayonetta)

8: dyr (Diddy Kong)

9: Ned (Cloud)