Super Smash Bros - Daily Discussion Thread 06/22/17


Daily Discussion Thread 06/22/17

Posted: 22 Jun 2017 12:09 AM PDT

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I painted Captain Zack and Bayonetta!

Posted: 22 Jun 2017 12:44 PM PDT

RE: Samox Fundraiser

Posted: 22 Jun 2017 07:52 AM PDT

I posted this as a comment in the other thread, but wanted to make sure it got seen:

I don't know what to say. I can't believe how incredibly generous and thoughtful you all are. For everyone who donated to me, you make me want to cry. I don't know how to handle this kind of outpouring. I really meant it when I said I don't want to be running a constant fundraiser, but this feels different. Thank you all so much. M2K even messaged me asking if he could help.

With all that said, please don't feel like you have to donate to support me. Yes, I've had to do some questionable things with my savings to keep going, but I've always sort of viewed my savings as a way to help achieve my goals.

The best thing we can do is celebrate smash history together on release day; get excited about the game that has generated so much hype and so many incredible stories. I can't wait to show you all what you've been supporting and I hope you'll join me in watching it when it comes out.

I love you all.

Supreme shout outs to RidleyIsTooSMALL - you sneaky little rogue-fundraiser. <3

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Silent Wolf joins Dynasty Gaming

Posted: 22 Jun 2017 01:05 PM PDT

Ten years later, Shiz gets his revenge on Mew2King

Posted: 22 Jun 2017 07:32 PM PDT

https://clips.twitch.tv/SweetCrowdedMinkTTours

watch live at twitch.tv/mew2king or twitch.tv/dswbronson

*also its not exactly 10 years later woops

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How Leffen will make Melee great again

Posted: 22 Jun 2017 09:03 AM PDT

20MX - Mexican Melee Mod by Minerali

Posted: 22 Jun 2017 06:40 PM PDT

M2K punches Shiz

Posted: 22 Jun 2017 09:11 PM PDT

The Inherent Flaw in the Melee Community

Posted: 22 Jun 2017 11:57 AM PDT

The past 6 months or so have been, to put it lightly, a tumultuous time for the Melee community. There have been seemingly endless debates on topics including, but not limited to, the Smashbox/B0XX, Wobbling, Arduinos, Ledge Grab Limits, Frozen Stadium, and, most recently, allowing DaShizWiz to participate in tournaments. These arguments get heated and go on for months at a time with little to no resolution.

Having this much needless argument is not a good thing for our community. However, the underlying problem we face is that we as a community have no way to come to any sort of conclusive or official decision on these issues. People call for "The TOs" to make decisions, or ask top players to give their reasons to ban/not ban something, but time and time again we have failed to come to a conclusive decision on issues that can and will have a major impact on the community. I've yet to see the community as a whole, or a collection of major TOs, or a large collection of top players, come out with a conclusive decision as to whether or not something should or should not be legal. This is because there is no concept of organized authority in melee. To some extent, Sm4sh has this with 2GG. Coincidentally or not, I haven't seen nearly as much unresolved argument or debate regarding Sm4sh.

I think its imperative that Melee devises some way to make concrete decisions on these topics. The inability to do so is detrimental to our game's growth and stops us from adopting changes that are directly beneficial. For example, there are few if any people who don't agree that Frozen Stadium is an objectively fairer and better version of the stage than vanilla stadium. However, the reason it was never adopted is because TOs decided that if not everyone was going to agree to use it, they couldn't use it either.

The closest thing I've seen to creating a 'governing body' or 'officiating body' was the TO summit at G4. A group of people like that has the power to shape the future of melee, but I haven't seen a thing about it since then.

I'm posting this because I think its important to address how we make decisions as a community, and try to spark conversation as to how we can do better with this in the future.

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Armada's 5 Tips for Peach Players

Posted: 22 Jun 2017 02:44 PM PDT

Congratulations to the winner of Subs not Scrubs - TKbreezy!

Posted: 22 Jun 2017 07:29 PM PDT

Bracket

Subs not Scrubs Circuit Page

Full Results

Place Player Sent to losers by Eliminated by
1st Cosmos (Corrin) --- ---
2nd UnF l IcyMist (Samus, Donkey Kong, Diddy Kong, Marth, Ganondorf, Cloud) Cosmos Cosmos
3rd Twi (Peach, Ganondorf) Cosmos IcyMist
4th OsG vE l Winds (Toon Link, Link) Twi IcyMist
5th Naranja (Corrin) Winds IcyMist
5th Si Jakamu (Zero Suit Samus) Cosmos Winds
7th FP l ItsSonic (Toon Link) Winds Naranja
7th SKITTLES!! (Toon Link) IcyMist Si Jakamu
9th RealSchon (Marth, Ryu, Lucina) Twi Naranja
9th Mr. Fahrenheit (Mr. Game and Watch) RuslinJimmies_RJ ItsSonic
9th SM l RuslinJimmies_RJ (Donkey Kong, Bayonetta, Rosalina) Twi Si Jakamu
9th Storm (Mario, Diddy Kong) Winds SKITTLES!!
13th Vanquish (Diddy Kong, Donkey Kong, Luigi, Fox) Cosmos Naranja
13th rubisco (Pikachu) SKITTLES!! Mr. Fahrenheit
13th BmorePride (Pikachu) RealSchon RuslinJimmies_RJ
13th DopeMaker (Captain Falcon) ItsSonic Storm
17th AVS l skywardgemstone (Link) DopeMaker Vanquish
17th Dan Ugore (Roy) Si Jakamu Naranja
17th Fitz (Ike, Mario) RealSchon rubisco
17th ZAY (Link) IcyMist Mr. Fahrenheit
17th chaoticshadow (Cloud, Corrin, Diddy Kong) ZAY RuslinJimmies_RJ
17th King Burst (Megaman) SKITTLES!! BmorePride
17th Devious Wyvern (Bowser, Cloud) Dan Ugore Storm
17th AVS l D620 (King Dedede) Cosmos DopeMaker
25th RatedRudy (Greninja) Storm DQ vs Naranja
25th NT l OR4CL3 (Samus) BmorePride Fitz
25th Blewbeary (Ryu) Twi Mr. Fahrenheit
25th XYZP (Mario, Ganondorf, Cloud) IcyMist chaoticshadow
25th RizingShadow l LNIM DQ vs rubisco DQ vs King Burst
25th AVS l Shailay (Cloud, Peach, Dark Pit) Si Jakamu Devious Wyvern
25th PS! l Cloudhead (Charizard, Cloud) Vanquish D620

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Grand Finals

Zachary "IcyMist" Barto // Twitch | Twitter | Wiki
vs
Brian "Cosmos" Kalu // Twitch | Twitter | Wiki

UnF IcyMist 0 - 3 Cosmos
--- = Smashville =
--- = Dreamland 64 =
--- = Town and City =

Generated by Tournament Tabler


Current Standings:

Place Player Points
1st FP l ItsSonic (Toon Link) 800
2nd UnF l IcyMist (Samus, Donkey Kong, Diddy Kong, Marth, Ganondorf, Cloud) 700
3rd Mystearica (Bayonetta) 500
4th Si Jakamu (Zero Suit Samus, Bayonetta) 475
5th Cosmos (Corrin) 450
6th Twi (Peach, Ganondorf) 400
7th RealSchon (Marth, Captain Falcon, Ryu, Lucina, Ganondorf) 350
8th aperture (Sonic) 300
8th LGCY l Sonix (Sonic) 300
8th Wrath (Sonic) 300
11th Naranja (Corrin) 275
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Registration for 2GGC: ARMS Saga is now open! Plus info for anyone who wants to attend EVO also!

Posted: 22 Jun 2017 12:05 PM PDT

Hey everyone it's Champ from 2GG!

When: July 8th - 9th, 2017

Where: Esports Arena at Santa Ana, CA

Game: Smash Wii U Singles & Doubles & ARMS

Registration Link: https://smash.gg/armssaga

So, why ARMS as our next event? Because we love the game! We been excited since the game got announce and we always had talks with D1 about how awesome it's going to be. So now that the game is here, we want to showcase it to everyone!

Here are some quick info:

Pot Bonus

Thanks to Esports Arena, ARMS will have a pot bonus of $1,000 and Smash Wii U will have a pot bonus of $1,500

What do I need to bring to play ARMS or Smash Wii U?

Just your controller! We will be providing the Nintendo Switch so all you gotta do is sync it in and you're good to go. The only mode not allow is tablet mode since the Switch will be docked.

Default ARMS?

Yes. This is a logistic compromise. Until Nintendo releases a tournament mode or a method to unlock all ARMS efficently, we won't have enough time to unlock all ARMS on every single Switch we're providing by the event date.

Can I just come watch?

Yes! Spectator pass is available online and at the day of the event

Food Trucks, Vendors & Other Activities

Besides competing in the event itself, we will have things like food trucks, vendors, free play, raffle and other fun activties throughout the event!

I want to attend both ARMS Saga and EVO. Can you help with housing in the week between?

Certainly! If you need housing from July 7th to July 13th then please message me directly via Twitter! First come first serve and case by case basis!

Where do I sign up?

CLICK HERE!

If you have anymore question, please feel free to DM me here or at our twitter

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Wisconsin Spring 2017 Power Rankings

Posted: 22 Jun 2017 04:19 PM PDT

The Optimal Sheik Recovery? - Leffen

Posted: 22 Jun 2017 10:19 AM PDT

Shiz quick combo on Netplay

Posted: 22 Jun 2017 06:26 PM PDT

https://clips.twitch.tv/AveragePerfectLeopardWholeWheat

Hes been getting alot better recently. Check him out.

Also streaming right now: https://www.twitch.tv/dswbronson

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Predictions For EVO?

Posted: 22 Jun 2017 01:11 PM PDT

What do you guys think will be top 8 in both Melee and Smash 4 and who do you think will get upset/make an upset.

I got Fatality in Smash 4 making an underdog run to Top 12 and Chudat making Top 4 in Melee

And Ally may fall short in Winner's bracket in round 2 pools but make a great loser's run into Top 8

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Hax Controller Project Update (x-post /r/SSBM)

Posted: 21 Jun 2017 10:47 PM PDT

Hey guys, its UnclePunch. I've been working closely with Hax, Dan Salvato, TruckJitsu and Jordy over the past couple of days to get Hax's controller modifications working via a memory card mod. This mod includes every one of Hax's initial Arduino changes, and then some.

These changes will work for every player, and it only takes one memory card to get the mod up and running for the entire venue. Just plugin, run the exploit, and move onto the next setup. This process should seem familiar to anyone who has run 20XXTE.

You can also try out the mod right now with very little hassle if your computer is capable of running Dolphin. The latest Faster Melee BETA (FM v5.5) has the codes included and enabled out of the box. The codes can be enabled/disabled on a per player basis by holding down on the DPad on the character select screen. This beta also marks the first Faster Melee build for Mac since June of last year!

It is important to note that this mod only works with v1.02 discs at the moment. An update will be distributed in the future with support for other versions.

Here's all the important links to learn more about and download the mod. If you have any bug reports feel free to PM me so I can get them fixed ASAP. I hope you all enjoy it!


Main Site: https://hax.money

Video Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2HM2PJBZm8

Faster Melee Discord: http://discord.gg/fastermelee (download in the #updates channel)

Hax's Twitter for Updates: https://twitter.com/ssbmhax

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An in-depth interview with Smash United's Fuzz. His experience at The Bigger Balc, the PM community, and more!

Posted: 22 Jun 2017 03:36 PM PDT

Balc Cast [Vodcast Stream] TONIGHT at 7pm PST hyping up and reviewing upcoming fat, dope PM events for the next month+

Posted: 22 Jun 2017 03:49 PM PDT

If melee makes this new memory card tournament standard at some point, will we be walking the path Project M did as a modded competitive game?

Posted: 22 Jun 2017 01:00 PM PDT

Nintendo is at the very least acknowledging us and maybe supporting us in the future, but if we make these mods the standard will Nintendo not like it again? And would it go as far as Project M being hated by Nintendo and against the rules to play on Twitch?

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Nairo Sub Tournament with Flight to EVO 2017 on the line happening tomorrow!

Posted: 22 Jun 2017 02:23 PM PDT

Hey guys, just a heads up that Nairo is hosting his 2nd wifi major in the Naifu Wars series, Naifu Wars: World War #2 tomorrow night. It currently has over 200 entrants and registration ends tomorrow June 23rd at 12pm EST. The tourney will start 7 hours later, at 7pm EST. It'll be streamed live on Nairo's Twitch channel

There will be prizes for top 4 placements. The winner will get a flight purchased for EVO 2017, while 2nd, 3rd, and 4th placers will win $75, $50, and $25 respectively. The event will be commentated by Gunblade and Pierce.

You can register and check more details on the event here

This event is also part of the SubsNotScrubs circuit that started last week and is continuing until end of next week. Across 8 tourneys, players will acquire circuit points and the 8 players with the most points will compete in an event happening early July where the winner will be flown out to Shine 2017!

The 8 streamers running events also have a shop setup where proceeds of the sales get added to the final circuit event pot. You can find shirts, wristbands, emote stickers and more here

For current circuit point standings, check here

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Which taunts are the most annoying to you?

Posted: 22 Jun 2017 06:00 PM PDT

For me personally, DK's down taunt and Bayo's taunts almost make me wanna punch my screen.

Which of the 58 characters has the most annoying taunt to you?

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New Orleans Smash Wii U Power Rankings Q1 2017 ft. P1|Captain Zack, C. Falcon, etc.

Posted: 22 Jun 2017 06:16 PM PDT

What would you want out of an Evo Salty Suite?

Posted: 22 Jun 2017 08:37 AM PDT

https://twitter.com/2ggaming/status/877252476839247873

Doubles: 38%

Salty Suite: 62%

What matches do you want to see happen? Assume all players are going, in case Evo doesn't hold it and the burden opportunity falls to other tournaments.

Hint: for the other 38%, they never said it would be limited to singles. Since the stakes are less high, this could be an opportunity to break up certain static teams... ;)

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How to DI common (low-percent) combos?

Posted: 22 Jun 2017 07:08 AM PDT

Is there a comprehensive list somewhere of how to DI common combos, like Mario's and Fox's uptilt strings at low percents? Or how about how to SDI out of Ness/Robin's fire moves, Bayonetta's combos, and other multihits? It would be nice to have something that has all this info gathered in one place!

Thank you!

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