Overwatch - Weekly Role Discussion Thread: Tank - June 17, 2017

Weekly Role Discussion Thread: Tank - June 17, 2017
EU Overwatch Contenders: Group Stage Day 1 Survival Guide
Pharah's TRUE counter
The one time I deflect a Zarya ult, Hanzo just has to steal my glory.
Mei and Ana: 1, Roadhog: 2
What if McCree had a small passive?
When you're both waiting for that rez.
Orgasmic Victory
Nobody expects the Failed Dva ult
Overwatch Misconceptions. I used to think Reinhardt's ult icon was a dancing man
People should not be kicked from Training mode after a few seconds of being still. It's there for adjusting your settings!
Sombra -> Reinhardt -> Pharah
Hi enemy team! Bye enemy team!
With the new map, I felt this cosplay was appropriate
Winston jump vs. green suck orb
Just Torbjörn being Torbjörn
Dear Reinhardt players, walk forward.
Idiots like us are the reason Reaper shadow stepping to unintended locations is in every patch note...
Never bunch up around Tracer and Orisa
My First *REAL* Lucio Boop
My best POTG yet
Lol that's weird. Wait... Hey get outta here!
New Roadhog nerf: no reg after a hook
Later'd
When you try your best but you don't succeed
Anyone Else..? Hanzo Vs Team
Can we get some Daft Punk skins for Genji and Zenyatta?I mean...come on guys.

Weekly Role Discussion Thread: Tank - June 17, 2017

Posted: 16 Jun 2017 10:07 PM PDT

In this weekly thread you can discuss the Tank roles of Overwatch to your heart's delight. What are the characteristics of those heroes?

Tanks specialize in protecting allies, disrupting enemies, and occupying the front line. They have high survivability and abilities that protect themselves and others with shields and crowd control.

— Overwatch Wikia

You can find a list of the current tanky heroes on the Overwatch Hero Overview.

Share guides and strategies that are valuable to a tanky Overwatch Hero or other tips and tricks that helped you to get better. You can also propose ideas why a certain hero is bad in your eyes and how to make it better. Please do so in a constructive way!

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EU Overwatch Contenders: Group Stage Day 1 Survival Guide

Posted: 17 Jun 2017 08:41 AM PDT

Information

Streams: Twitch | MLG.tv

Brackets: Liquipedia | Over.gg | OverwatchContenders.com

Schedule

EU Group Stage Day 1 will run June 17th, starting at 16:00 CEST (10:00 AM EDT).

Streamed Matches will begin at 19:00 CEST (1:00 PM EDT).

Format

Matches are a 4 map set. The team with the highest number of maps victories wins. 2-2 matches will result in a tie.

Broadcast Talent

Host: Gillfrost

Casters: ZP, Jason Kaplan, Hexagrams, Jamerson

Participating Teams

Group A	Group B	Group C	Group D
EUnited	Misfits	Singularity Ninjas	Movistar Riders
Bazooka Puppiez	Laser Kittenz	Vivi's Adventure	123
Team Expert	Ninjas With Attitudes	GamersOrigin	Cylowns
Esporati	Team Esporters Cyberathletes	Ninjas in Pyjamas	Alfa Squad

Matches & Results

DISCLAIMER: Times are approximate and are subject to change and/or delay.

Matches streamed on OverwatchContenders are bolded.

Time	Group	Matchup	Result
16:00 CEST	A	Esporati vs BPZ	0 - 4
16:00 CEST	A	Expert vs eUnited	2 - 2
16:00 CEST	B	LKZ vs NWA	4 - 0
16:00 CEST	B	Misfits vs TeSC	4 - 0
16:00 CEST	C	NiP vs Vivi's	0 - 4
16:00 CEST	C	GO vs Singularity	1 - 3
16:00 CEST	D	Alfa vs Cyclowns	2 - 2
16:00 CEST	D	Movistar vs 123	2 - 2
17:30 CEST	A	eUnited vs Esporati	4 - 0
17:30 CEST	A	BPZ vs Expert	1 - 3
17:30 CEST	C	Singularity vs Vivi's	3 - 1
19:00 CEST	A	eUnited vs BPZ	2 - 2
19:00 CEST	C	Vivi's vs GO	4 - 0
19:00 CEST	C	Singularity vs NiP	2 - 2
19:00 CEST	D	Cyclowns vs Movistar	0 - 4
20:30 CEST	A	Esporati vs Expert	1 - 3
20:30 CEST	B	TeSC vs LKZ	1 - 3
20:30 CEST	B	NWA vs Misfits	1 - 4
20:30 CEST	D	Alfa vs 123	2 - 2
22:15 CEST	B	TeSC vs NWA	2 - 2
22:15 CEST	C	NiP vs GO	4 - 0
22:15 CEST	D	123 vs Cyclowns	4 - 0
22:15 CEST	D	Movistar vs Alfa	3 - 1
23:45 CEST	B	Misfits vs LKZ	1 - 3

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Pharah's TRUE counter

Posted: 17 Jun 2017 05:21 AM PDT

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The one time I deflect a Zarya ult, Hanzo just has to steal my glory.

Posted: 17 Jun 2017 12:02 PM PDT

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Mei and Ana: 1, Roadhog: 2

Posted: 17 Jun 2017 09:46 AM PDT

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What if McCree had a small passive?

Posted: 17 Jun 2017 09:19 AM PDT

Okay so we've seen this many times before, particularly the "bounty" one where he can see enemies that are on fire through walls. Like Sombra does with critical enemies. But what If it worked a little differently? The problem with the "seeing people on fire" concept is that it can be manipulated, enemies can intentionally do nothing for a second or miss some shots in order to keep off fire- not only that, but if the enemies are doing well then McCree essentially has widow ult. Not cool. But what if it worked differently? Bounty 2.0, if you will. What if when an enemy got a kill, McCree could see them through the wall for maybe 2/3 seconds? It would give him the chance to counter problematic flankers, especially a good shot at good Genjis and Tracers, while not being ridiculously overpowered. Essentially he'd end up being an almost revenge style character, killing out of position enemies who get a pick on a healer or something. Likewise the other option would be to make it so that when an enemy kills a teammate, he sees where they are for 4/5 seconds; however, the silhouette doesn't move. Essentially he'd be able to see where they were when they killed your teammate. Idk, just a thought I had :>

EDIT: Wow my first gold. A lot of comments. Sadly I forgot to check off "send replies to inbox" before going to work. Either way imma add to this.

I've played a few hours on McCree. He's my Go-To dps on Comp (of which I have maybe 3 hours, as I'm generally a tank main.) And on QP I have another solid 10 or so. Not a lot but I've been busy. But for now imma answer some comments.

Okay so I keep seeing people saying to buff his hp, and honestly I think it'd be great but it has its own problem. Yeah, McCree is great at dealing with tanks; but there's much better. Orisa, Zarya, Soldier, Reaper, Tracer, Junkrat, etc. They're all made for that, McCree isn't. While I can't speak for above Plat, in my experience McCree is best with squishes. Landing that 1-2 headshot combo kills most non-tanks, and usually it's when McCrees try to work as reaper that they become weak and to some degree useless. As for "Bounty 2.0" Lemme explain a little more. Good players know and avoid their counter. When I'm decimating as McCree, Pharahs, Tracers, and Genjis stay away from me/out of my line of sight because they know it's dangerous; effectively a good player knows you counter them, and avoids you- making you useless. He doesn't have the mobility of soldier, so trying to hunt down a tracer can be difficult if you have no clue where they are; this is a solution. Say the Enemy Pharah is a problem, and you're supposed to counter her but she's keeping out of your LOS, she's positioning smart. When she kills your Reinhardt, you now know where in the sky she is, even for a second, and it makes you twice as effective at taking her down.

Example 2: An ulting Genji kills your mercy on point, while you're on your way back from spawn. You now know where he is, and can (hopefully) use it to your advantage to shut him down before he kills your other teammates too.

Example 3: A tracer is harassing your backlines; killing low health teammates and hiding before doing it again. She kills Lucio, and ducks behind a wall for a second to let her blinks recharge; you hunt her down. Even if you don't kill her, it effectively stops her from just hanging out behind you the entire match.

I also see a lot of people talking about the flashbang, and honestly, there's no problem with it. Yeah it's annoying if you flash a mid-air and miss the hits, or even miss on a blinking tracer or dashing Genji; but it's the same with hogs hook, anas sleep, or Reins Ult. you need to know WHEN to use it. You don't hook a character that's below you, you don't earthshatter a character above you, and you don't sleep a character in the middle of a firefight. It takes some getting used to, but if you feel the flashbang is broken you just need to practice a lil more. (PLEASE DONT GET MAD AAAA)

And for the people saying there's no Lore Reason behind it, without further ado. Tracer can only blink three times, Genjis ult doesn't shut down Hanzos Ult, Tracer and Widow on the same team as Junkrat and Hanzo, Zenyatta on Attack on Kings Row, Reapers soul orbs, Sombra's hack only lasting a few seconds, Ults needing to charge, McCree RELOADING WHILE ROLLING, Reapers teleportation, Dva being able to constantly recall her Mech,all characters having equal punching strength, CHARACTERS RESPAWNING, Hanzo not using his bow as a Melee weapon , ZENYATTA. There's so much more. As Jeff Kaplan put it: "Not everything has a logical/Lore reason, something's are simply there for gameplay purposes."

EDIT 2.0: I keep seeing people saying a wallhack is OP because of Widow Ult. um. Hanzo L-Shift, Sombra passive?

EDIT MK. III: iOS keyboard, while being typed at work. Whoops.

EDIT V: I keep seeing people talking about chasing down flankers. I don't know what you guys think McCree is but he certainly isn't a hunter/assassin. You shouldn't be chasing down ANYONE. Stay with your team and on point, dammit. The idea is that you can shit down a flanker spending 100% of the game behind you, or get a slight advantage on Pharah when she's in the air.

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When you're both waiting for that rez.

Posted: 17 Jun 2017 10:42 AM PDT