Heroes of the Storm - Wednesday HGC Discussion - June 13


Wednesday HGC Discussion - June 13

Posted: 13 Jun 2018 12:00 PM PDT

In progress

HGC Mid-Season Brawl (June 9-18)

Group A

P. Team Pts Games
1. Gen.G esports 15 10-0
2. Tempo Storm 9* 6-4
3. Ballistix 9* 6-4
4. Fnatic 7 5-5
5. TheOne.SGTY 1 1-7
6. Mindfreak 0 0-8

*placement decided by a tiebreaker match

Group B

P. Team Pts Games
1. Tempest 13 9-1
2. Team Dignitas 10 7-3
3. Method 8 6-4
4. HeroesHearth Esports 6 5-5
5. CE 4 3-7
6. Luna Meow 0 0-10

Playoffs (June 16-18)

Upper bracket semifinals:

  • Gen.G esports - Team Dignitas
  • Tempest - Tempo Storm

Lower bracket round 1:

  • Ballistix - HeroesHearth Esports
  • Method - Fnatic

Prediction challenge - win skin codes for best predictions!

Playoffs matches will be added soon.

HGC website | Bracket and schedule | Destination: Sweden | Survival Guide
Master League | Liquipedia (group stage) | Upcomer | Probuilds

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WEDNESDAY RAGE THREAD | June 13 - June 19

Posted: 13 Jun 2018 10:00 AM PDT

  • POST IN ALL CAPS
  • VENT YOUR FRUSTRATIONS
  • ALL POSTS MUST BE HEROES RELATED

THIS IS NOT A THREAD TO OUTRIGHT ATTACK OTHER PLAYERS.

PREVIOUS RAGE THREADS

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Small rant - Yrel in terms of tanks feels like Tyrande in terms of supports

Posted: 13 Jun 2018 09:25 AM PDT

Just... no

She cannot peel, isn't any danger to backliners, no playmaking ability, sure is tanky, sure have some cc, but she feels like a nice lady to watch at, not tank like Diablo who can fucking rekt , do 70-80% of assassins' damage, almost stunlock, slow with lightning breath

her ults don't help her team like Blaze's bunker

I don't understand her limitations - her slow when channeling, her vulnerability to disrupts - why does she have that? What does she have to compensate for that?

It's like poor man's shaved and physically fit Muradin

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Yrel release is pretty great

Posted: 13 Jun 2018 10:58 AM PDT

With "Yrel is pretty underwhelming" getting a post, the counter opinion deserves its own post too.

www.reddit.com/r/heroesofthestorm/comments/87zwbi/again_please_ban_new_heroes_from_ranked_modes_for

Here's a post from two months ago saying how annoying it is when Fenix and Maiev completely obliterated the competition. Calling out for balanced heroes on-release is unreasonable. The only reasonable thing to ask yourself is: do you want hero releases to be OP or UP.

I am in the camp of underpowered, so my opinion is that the Yrel release is great. No, I don't want the entire meta to shift. I don't want HL to become about drafting/banning the new hero. I want them to develop a good kit (which, Yrel is a good example of), and slowly buff them if they're considered undertuned.

The moment every hero is Fenix/Maiev on release, the game becomes pay-to-win. Straight up, I hate playing the game when one guy on either team is Superman, and everyone is a common thug.

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Yrel meets the Highlord! Fanart by Alarak of the storm

Posted: 13 Jun 2018 10:15 AM PDT

AMA: I just sponsored my first eSports Team for Heroes of the Storm + Q&A with Team Octalysis Pro Players

Posted: 13 Jun 2018 11:52 AM PDT

Hey guys,

I'm Yu-kai Chou. I mentioned earlier that Team Octalysis will be doing a community event (Public Scrim + AMA + Pro Coaching) https://www.reddit.com/r/heroesofthestorm/comments/8q4rc0/official_team_octalysis_public_pov_scrim_and_ama/

Here is the AMA section. Feel free to ask me or the players ANYTHING (while being polite and respectful).

Ask me: the reason I decided to become an eSports sponsor; my experiences and surprises with the experience; gamification and the Octalysis Framework (I happen to be one of the top known experts in gamification and behavioral design); my background and entrepreneur journey (I've never had an employer in my life); or anything else.

For those who want to know a bit more about my work in gamification, here again is the link to a TEDx talk I did for starters: http://yukaichou.com/chou-musings/tedx-talk-gamification-just-reached-100k-viewers-youtube/

Ask the Players: how they became Pro Players; why they chose Heroes of the Storm as the game they play; how do they practice and talk about strategies; what's the best way to climb Hero League; technical questions on certain heroes; or anything else

As mentioned earlier, heavily based on participation, a few folks will be selected to receive custom coaching with the Pros to up your game and get out of the up and down HL yo-yo. I wish the players could make time for me myself on stuff like that, so don't miss this opportunity!

We will begin to answer questions starting 12PM Pacific Time (roughly 10 min from this posting).

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Hero Survey June 2018 (Census) - RESULTS + INFO GRAPHIC

Posted: 13 Jun 2018 08:23 AM PDT

Heyhey Heroes Community,
after a few days (was gone for the weekend) I'm happy to present you the results of the Heroes Survey June 2018! As always, main purpose was to catch the dedicated player's feelings about the current hero situation concerning balance, favour and upcoming heroes. There were also some bonus questions around the game and the possibility to rate some of the recent additions/changes. This time you could also rate all the game's battlegrounds. After your positive feedback for that idea, i decided to shorten the results for strongest/weakest heroes a little bit. - Enjoy the results & Thanks a lot to all participants!

This is not absolutely representative for all Heroes of the Storm players, but though mostly dedicated players participated, this still draws a fine picture of the current situation i think!

 

The change indication numbers connect to the last survey (Hero Survey March 2018, after Maiev release), though a very small change of just +/- 0.1 is colored yellow instead of green/red.

 

PLEASE ENJOY & DISCUSS! :)
--> Info Graphic - Hero Survey June 2018
--> Survey Announcement Thread
 

(Former surveys:
Jan'16 (C.) - Mar'16 - Jun'16 (C.) - Aug'16 - Dec'16 - Feb'17 - May'17 - Jul'17 - Sep'17 - Oct'17 - Mar'18 )

 

You can also contact/add me & stay tuned for next surveys on Twitter!.

 

Important: This is not official, I have no connection to Blizzard at all.
This project was born all out of fun, curiosity and love for the game.

 

Thanks a lot to all the 4279 participants from all around the world!
State of the game was patch 33.0/1 (Nexomania + Diabo/Lunara rework 05/22 + PTR patch 06/04).

 

Please share this, so it can reach everyone, who might be interested in it! :)
Feel free to give feedback & discuss about the results here!

  edit: I fixed the length of the colored bars on the rating question.

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Angery Glaurung

Posted: 13 Jun 2018 05:39 PM PDT

Mecha Forge Ragnaros: Heroes of the Storm Skin and Lore Concept

Posted: 13 Jun 2018 09:53 AM PDT

Hey Blizzard, if you are going to force us to play with a bot can you at least give us the option to force it to stay in the well?

Posted: 13 Jun 2018 05:50 PM PDT

Kind of sick and tired of 10iq bots running into a lane and getting ganked 25 times in a game.

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YREL is the first hero since March of 2016 to not have any quests in her kit.

Posted: 13 Jun 2018 06:17 AM PDT

hero releases by date

because of Xul rework he now has quests but it was either him or Li-Ming that were the last heroes released with Absolutely 0 quests.

Quests are a very rewarding aspect of the game and Blizz has mentioned wanting to add this to all heroes including reworks. So why did Yrel not receive this treatment? Anyone from Blizz can comment?

I feel like this is one of the main things missing from her play. It's underwhelming and unrewarding. Her kit has good peel and ally protection (talented) however her DMG and cast time on abilities is awful.

The weaker version of Muradins E is in biggest need of reduced cast time and increased range/damage imo. There is just too many warriors that do it better than her.

The most annoying thing for me is that if an ability gets interrupted it goes on CD or 5 sec CD which I think is standard across all characters? But if not why do her Q and W go on full cooldown if stunned as if they were used? That makes her easily countered with stuns. No other tank gets stunned and then cool-downs reset it's not as if they were super strong in first place. Maybe this is a bug? (Edit: was informed this is how all heroes work maybe it's just worse for yrel because all her ability work on a cast time)

Some quick solutions I can think of is adding some quests baseline or at level 1 that improve her abilities or cast times. Then up her dmg big time. I think her survivability is fine or would be better if her escape and knock back didn't take forever. Another thing I noticed was that dodging YREL is extremely easy because you know what she is charging or casting very easy for other team to be prepared.

Edit : one last thing her level 20 talents are BS Garrosh gets unstoppable at lvl 4. (Was pointed out the cd difference Garrosh 40sec and Yrel 10sec)

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Jaina, your shoes are on the wrong feet.

Posted: 12 Jun 2018 11:18 PM PDT

As a father of two blonde girls, I'm sad that I have to point this out. Maybe she just had too much to drink at the Lunar Festival? Anyway, here's a screenshot where you can see that the toes of both shoes are pointing out:

https://i.imgur.com/OUfvpO2.png

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Garrosh Interrupts Bubble Hearth

Posted: 13 Jun 2018 04:50 AM PDT

Clearing up a misconception: Charging up abilities has almost no effect on Yrel's Auto-Attack DPS. Her attack speed is one attack every 1.3 seconds, An ability takes 1.5 seconds to charge.

Posted: 13 Jun 2018 01:19 PM PDT

Some of the most upvoted posts and comments I'm seeing are talking about the huge trade-off between charging abilities and auto-attacking. Well... you can get about 10% more AA DPS if you exclusively focus on auto-attacking and never charge any abilities.

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Blizzard Update Agent, what the hell are you downloading?

Posted: 13 Jun 2018 03:52 PM PDT

In the middle of a Hero League game and my computer crashes. Very odd occurrence. I restart and reconnect, it goes fairly quickly (get an SSD if you don't have one). But when I get back into the game, I notice I am lagging like crazy. I bring up task manager and I see Blizzard Update Agent doing 66 Mbps. In fact, it's been about five minutes now since I reconnected and the game is over and it's still fucking going. I've tried ending the process, it just starts back up and resumes. It's also using about 10% of my CPU and 8MB/sec on my HD.

I only have two Blizzard games installed: WoW and HotS. Neither of them are downloading updates. Battle.Net isn't downloading anything. I don't know what the hell it's doing, but it fucked up my game.

Also I do have "Pause downloads during game" checked in settings. It's completely ignoring that.

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Reddit requests and Blizzard

Posted: 13 Jun 2018 04:26 AM PDT

REDDIT: BLIZZARD STOP RELEASING OP HEROES LIKE MAIVE AND FENIX!!!11!!1!eleven!

BLIZZARD: we gachu.

BLIZZARD releases Urel.

REDDIT: BLIZZARD STOP RELEASING HEROES THAT DON'T DO DAMAGE!!11!11

BLIZZARD flips the table and leaves the room.

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June 6th, 2018 Patch - 7 Days Later

Posted: 13 Jun 2018 01:26 PM PDT

Tempo Storm sidestep kings

Posted: 13 Jun 2018 10:51 AM PDT

Suggestion: Let Yrel's Q proc at the current charge level if cancelled by CC

Posted: 13 Jun 2018 12:23 PM PDT

It seems unnecessarily punishing for Yrel's survivability ability to be cancelable and put on full cooldown without healing her if she is CC'ed whilst channelling it.

No other tank in the game can be punished like this, they can all use their healing/survivability buttons without worrying about CC (Mura W, ETC E, Garrosh W to name a few). I get that channelling is her gimmick but it feels so terrible using her Q when heroes near you have hard CC.

I feel like "popping" the channel at the current charge level, as opposed to cancelling it, is more appropriate for her Q.

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I really like the new Alterac-themed backround in menus

Posted: 13 Jun 2018 03:40 AM PDT

Haven't heard anybody really mention this, but the light blue with clouds and shit looks and feels so much nicer than the gloomy and dark purple backround everywhere. I hope we can keep this going forward. The Alterac-themed props in play menus I don't really like that much, but the backround itself is gorgeous. I also like the rock platform heroes and mounts stand on in item pages, much better than the ugly purple cubes that were there before. By the way the end-of-game screens haven't updated to the new rock platform look yet so I guess that's a bug or an oversight.

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This is what the Alliance Swift Ram Mount looks like.

Posted: 13 Jun 2018 08:50 AM PDT

I figured some of you might wanted to know what the Ram mount looked like in-game (before choosing sides). So here are some screenshots: https://imgur.com/a/pGJpDQM

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TIL if you ping someone you can see the ping moving even if the hero is not visible anymore.

Posted: 13 Jun 2018 01:44 PM PDT

Is this intended? Is it new? Or is it a Bug?

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HGC Mid-Season Brawl - Group stage :: Tiebreaker match :: Discussion thread

Posted: 13 Jun 2018 10:10 AM PDT

Previous match thread: HGC Mid-Season Brawl - Group stage :: TheOne.SGTY vs Mindfreak.

Please upvote this thread to make it visible after another one is stickied. Thanks!

P. Team Pts Games
1. Gen.G esports 15 10-0
2. Ballistix 9 6-4
. Tempo Storm 9 6-4
4. Fnatic 7 5-5
5. TheOne.SGTY 1 1-7
6. Mindfreak 0 0-8

Match reports, VODs

Official stats | Master League | Twitch

Tempo Storm 1:0 Ballistix

Game Battleground Winner
1 Infernal Shrines TS.

Time

about 10:10 PDT / 13:10 EDT / 17:10 UTC / 19:10 CEST / the same time as this post

Streams

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HGC Mid-Season Brawl

The Heroes of the Storm Mid-Season Brawl will feature 12 top-ranked teams battling it out for $250,000 USD from June 9-18. It's the first global competition on the HGC calendar, and with some of the best players in the world throwing down in front of thousands of attendees in Sweden, it's sure to be epic.

Group stage: June 9-13. Teams are divided into two groups of six teams each, where they play two game matches in a round-robin format.
Playoffs: June 16-18. In a double elimination bracket, top two teams from each group start in the upper bracket, while teams placed 3-4 start in the lower bracket. All matches are best-of-5, and everything ends in a best-of-7 Grand Final.

Prediction challenge (details about rewards)

Gen.G esports | Team Dignitas | Tempo Storm | CE | Tempest | Fnatic | HeroesHearth Esports | TheOne.SGTY | Ballistix | Method | Mindfreak | Luna Meow

HGC website | Bracket and schedule | Destination: Sweden | Survival Guide
Master League | Liquipedia (group stage) | Upcomer | Probuilds

Teams

Tempo Storm vs Ballistix
cattlepillar tank - tank Hooligan
Fan ranged/flex - melee Jeongha
Glaurung melee - support Magi
Jun support - ranged sCsC
psalm melee/flex - ranged/flex SDE

Game version

HGC Mid-Season Brawl is played on patch 2.33.0 (with a special hotfix for the targeting bug around Diablo's Lightning Breath), so patches 2.33.1 and 2.34.0 are not applied. Deckard Cain is allowed.

HGC match threads are created by /u/lerhond. Please mention or PM /u/lerhond if you have any feedback.

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Can we add healing stat to Yrel?

Posted: 13 Jun 2018 01:21 AM PDT

Basically the only way to see your healing is on the MVP screen, whether that's top heal overall(which would probably show the exact stat, or if you were the MVP(which just shows "healing done" in %). shown here: https://imgur.com/a/24guhvl

Also included my build, which focuses around the synergy between Gift of Naaru and Divine Favor. The idea is spam abilities when out of team fight and you get a heal every 6 seconds. At lv 16 this heal is 750. Definitely not game breaking OPOP, but it's a reasonable heal that comes really early into the game(level4), and scales incredibly well.

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Yrel screams AHA so well Antonidas would be proud

Posted: 13 Jun 2018 04:56 AM PDT

No sarcasm

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