Super Smash Bros - Daily Discussion Thread 06/13/18

Daily Discussion Thread 06/13/18
What Kirby looks like after he's copied Ridley.
To anyone who seems to think that we’ve seen everyone, the art was changed immediately after Ridleys reveal.
When Mr. Game and Watch Grabs you, he juggles your stock icon
Stage Hazard Toggle Officially Confirmed!
Link fires the classic beam from the master sword when he has zero damage! Like when he has full hearts in some of the main games!
I drew something for all the Waluigi fans out there.
Jiggs combo from her character video.
Thank You Sakurai Campaign; how the community can help
The roster of Super Smash Bros. Ultimate so far, displayed in the correct order of character number.
Heads up, VGBootCamp is uploading a ton of SSBU 1v1 matches right now onto their Youtube channel featuring a diverse group of characters
Idk if this has been posted yet, but this seems to be the official art for Inklings and it looks amazing.
Made a little desktop wallpaper of all the characters
All-Star Mode is going to be absolutely brutal
Falco finds some food.
Idea - since Sakurai said that you will have to unlock every character, what if this picture was the title screen and it slowly filled out with every character you unlock?
PSA - Reusing assets does not make the game a port
Shower thought: Any DLC we may receive will be a brand new character.
Official Screenshot
Detailed Bayonetta nerfs
If you play 8-player Smash in SSBU with nobody picking the same character, there's a good chance you're playing a never before played combination of fighters
So if Snake and Shadow Moses are back, AND Palutena's Temple is also back...
"Why do the characters look bad in Ultimate?" Remember Odyssey?
Captain Falcon also no longer has his elbow, rest in peace Elbow, hello Backhand Fist
HD Footage of a Waveland at the Treehouse
I love that this is the 5th Battlefield. I wish they copied the details tho.

Posted: 13 Jun 2018 12:09 AM PDT

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What Kirby looks like after he's copied Ridley.

Posted: 13 Jun 2018 09:21 AM PDT

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To anyone who seems to think that we’ve seen everyone, the art was changed immediately after Ridleys reveal.

Posted: 13 Jun 2018 11:03 AM PDT

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When Mr. Game and Watch Grabs you, he juggles your stock icon

Posted: 13 Jun 2018 02:14 PM PDT

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Stage Hazard Toggle Officially Confirmed!

Posted: 13 Jun 2018 04:31 PM PDT

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Link fires the classic beam from the master sword when he has zero damage! Like when he has full hearts in some of the main games!

Posted: 13 Jun 2018 04:52 PM PDT

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I drew something for all the Waluigi fans out there.

Posted: 13 Jun 2018 11:46 AM PDT

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Jiggs combo from her character video.

Posted: 13 Jun 2018 08:26 AM PDT

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Thank You Sakurai Campaign; how the community can help

Posted: 13 Jun 2018 08:36 AM PDT

Yesterday we saw a reveal for a game that is a love letter to the fans no matter how you slice it.

Bringing back every fighter and dozens of stages must have been an unimaginable undertaking for any studio, let alone Sakurai who has shown time-after-time to put an immense amount of effort into Smash development. The direct focused heavily on details that only fans of the series would appreciate, and we've become aware over the last day-or-so of many mechanics that are at least intended to create a more aggressive form of play and to cater to 1 v 1 matches.

You may be skeptical; citing the continued inclusion of mechanics like edge-trumping and rage, and these mechanics will most likely go unchanged. But reintroducing wavelanding, dashdancing, reducing ledge-snapping, reducing squat time, and allowing most attacks out of dash shows that Sakurai is willing to compromise.

I would like to introduce the Thank You Sakurai campaign. Sakurai left last night on a midnight flight to get back to development. He didn't have to, but he cares that much about making the Ultimate Smash Bros game. So I don't want him to return home feeling like the community is ungrateful of his efforts.

I would like to encourage every fan in the community here to personally send Sakurai https://twitter.com/Sora_Sakurai a message thanking him for all the love he's put into this endeavor. And please encourage your friends in the community to do the same. And if you are concerned about the mechanics (which he has stated multiple times he is still working out), I recommend you direct him to watch Armada's video that he made following the invitational. He doesn't ask for many changes, just a few tweaks that could go a long way towards finally bridging the gap between reasonable Melee veterans (who just want more mobility) and newer members of the community.

I've included below tweet templates suggested by fellow redditors

Overall, I'm really happy about where this will bring the community and I hope we can push that passion in a positive direction

tweet template suggestions:

@Sora_Sakurai E3お疲れ様でした。今回のゲーム内容は私たちがずっと夢でしか見たことがないスマブラそのものでした。桜井さんとスマブラのチームの皆さんのこのゲームへの愛を強く感じられます。発売すごく楽しみにしています。開発頑張ってください！応援しています。

Thank you for your hard work at E3. We can feel the love both you and the Smash Bros. team put into this game. We are really excited for the release. Do your best! We are cheering for you.

@Sora_Sakurai E3お疲れ様でした。今回の作品に桜井さんとチームの皆さんの頑張りがファンの皆さんにとても伝わってきました。お忙しいと思いますが、できたらArmadaさんが作った動画https://youtu.be/B0r8BpON5mE?t=4m55sご覧になっていただけますか？ＤＸにより近い体験になる用にアドバイスがまとめいます。

Thank you for your hard work at E3. The fans can feel the hard work you and the team put into the game. I know you are busy, but could you take a look at Armada's video? It has advice about how to get the gameplay experience closer to Melee.

edit: added templates

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The roster of Super Smash Bros. Ultimate so far, displayed in the correct order of character number.

Posted: 13 Jun 2018 01:46 PM PDT

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Heads up, VGBootCamp is uploading a ton of SSBU 1v1 matches right now onto their Youtube channel featuring a diverse group of characters

Posted: 13 Jun 2018 12:05 PM PDT

The playlist is here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wr9xcUZkxY&list=PLcMdMmtHkPpQox9E15lFjjOqhFLLG2yvI

We have about 20 total matches. They'll be uploading through out the day at 60fps. There's a little bit of frame blending. Not exactly sure how to turn it off with the camera.

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Idk if this has been posted yet, but this seems to be the official art for Inklings and it looks amazing.

Posted: 13 Jun 2018 10:02 AM PDT

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Made a little desktop wallpaper of all the characters

Posted: 13 Jun 2018 11:32 AM PDT

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All-Star Mode is going to be absolutely brutal

Posted: 13 Jun 2018 11:17 AM PDT

Not to mention having to do it on Intense difficulty for a challenge.

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Falco finds some food.

Posted: 13 Jun 2018 01:31 AM PDT

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Idea - since Sakurai said that you will have to unlock every character, what if this picture was the title screen and it slowly filled out with every character you unlock?

Posted: 13 Jun 2018 02:47 PM PDT

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PSA - Reusing assets does not make the game a port

Posted: 13 Jun 2018 09:29 AM PDT

I am somehow STILL seeing people who are sitting there going "lol this is just a shit port bro, 4.5 btw"

No, it's not. If you really believe that, you don't know what a port is. A port would be literally lifting the entire Smash 4 game and bringing it to Switch and adding a couple of new features.

While it is graphically similar to Smash 4, which shouldn't be shocking to anyone given Switch is only moderately better than the Wii U, the game is not a port. They've almost certainly lifted some assets from Smash 4, polished them up a bit, and imported them to Ultimate, but the core game itself is still very different. On a technical and mechanical level, the game is a completely new one. I'm not even sure if the engine is the same.

Just because they are using a slightly polished up Smash 4 model of Duck Hunt and Jigglypuff for Ultimate does not make the game a port.

So... maybe stop calling it a port?

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Shower thought: Any DLC we may receive will be a brand new character.

Posted: 13 Jun 2018 10:06 AM PDT

This just dawned on me. With Smash 4's 7 DLC characters, 3 of them were veterans. But now with every character returning, that means any DLC fighter they add later on would be a brand new fighter. I know this is obvious, but cool to think about.

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Official Screenshot

Posted: 13 Jun 2018 03:39 PM PDT

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Detailed Bayonetta nerfs

Posted: 13 Jun 2018 07:25 AM PDT

Alright, so here's what's happened to Bayonetta in the E3 build.

https://twitter.com/KeplerSmash/status/1006873194760953856?s=19

heard on Nairo's stream the following about Bayo: 1. Bayo Fair1 followups are nerfed, no more Fair1 > ABK for example

Witch Time activation doesn't grant her invincibility

Witch Time duration nerfed, you can't just Dtilt > Charge Upsmash anymore

If Heel Slide hits the shield, she can't use the kick! Heel Slide also can't crossup the shield.

WTw into ABK at low-mid percent won't combo, you can Airdodge. Directional Airdodges will let you avoid frametraps from her aerials in this scenario.

If you extend Nair to use it's bullet arts property, you will land with more lag (?)

Bullet Climax can't instantly be cancelled anymore, you have to wait until the bullets charge.

Dive Kick doesn't seem autocancel anymore