Unlabelled RuneScape Litt speaks up about his experience of losing his account. Mistakes like this from Jagex are still happening today.

3/30/2018 10:40:00 pm
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RuneScape Litt speaks up about his experience of losing his account. Mistakes like this from Jagex are still happening today.

Litt speaks up about his experience of losing his account. Mistakes like this from Jagex are still happening today.

Posted: 30 Mar 2018 05:18 AM PDT

Background (since it's been a while): In Fall 2016, well-known streamer YouGotLittUp was permanently banned for RWT. He was told by Mod Infinity on Twitter that both Infinity and a senior anti-cheating specialist had checked it out, and that the offense was "100% correct" and separate to swap trades.

After some outrage on Reddit and Twitter, Litt received more details about why the ban was applied, and had a chance to provide his own screenshots and evidence. It came to light that he was banned because his swapper had RWT'd, and the ban was reversed.

Recently, there has been another permanent ban for RWT attracting discussion/outrage on Twitter. The below text is from this recent tweet.

Honestly, the policy of 'no evidence, no discussion' regarding perm bans should be reviewed..

Firstly, it doesn't reflect badly on Player Support if they open a case for discussion and it turns out there was a mistake/misunderstanding; to the contrary: people appreciate transparency and decency.

The argument that detection methods need to be protected is so easily refuted/essentially redundant imo.. How can providing simple evidence such as "you traded X amount of go to player Y on this date" be detrimental to the functionality or integrity of your system. I understand that you're right in 99% of cases but don't you owe it to the 1% since people put thousands of hours into their accounts and providing evidence isn't particularly hard - you do it for macros and bad language etc..

I was very fortunate in that I was provided with such 'evidence' via Reddit (after being assured my ban was "100% correct", as many others are) and this enabled me to explain the misunderstanding and prove my innocence. It's completely unfair that others are not afforded such an opportunity for no good reason that i am aware of.

Thx for reading if u do @JagexSupport and sorry for lotsa text but i know how shit it felt to get falsely permed n feel helpless (even tho i don't play now myself) xo

Also not trying to be rude and i do rate player support they do a great job on the whole, but you can't claim your process is infallible when in my case alone there were 2 significant oversights on your part:

firstly, you were unaware of my 07 account Which received gp as the second half of the swap transaction, even tho was same IP and called "litt 07"

and you also claimed there was "no in-game chat"; whilst there was no public chat, there were dozens of pms with the dude i was swapping with (luckily had screenies)

Litt's evidence 1 Litt's evidence 2

So why does this matter now? It's still a very real possibility that permanent bans are being handed out mistakenly, and it's a sad reality that these people are told that their bans are "100% correct".

A friend of mine is going through this right now. She does not even know what exactly her ban was applied for, exactly - she was just told that she had RWT'd.

Think of if you were taken to court and only told that you've been charged with fraud, but not given any other information. How can you begin to build a case for yourself? Trying to present your financial history in its entirety is impractical.

People can have their doubts about whether the ban is deserved or not - but not being given the chance to present evidence about a specific wrongdoing is incredibly alienating for a person who has played that account for thousands of hours. It's incredibly frustrating for her friends who are seeing a pillar of their community disappear without explanation or recourse.

So, please - we know it's only a small minority of banned players who are mistakenly banned. But innocent players should absolutely have a chance to at least present more evidence or be given more information. We don't mind if Jagex admits that its systems are occasionally wrong. Thanks for reading.

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