Unlabelled RuneScape Silly Question Sunday - 04 February

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RuneScape Silly Question Sunday - 04 February

Silly Question Sunday - 04 February

Posted: 03 Feb 2018 04:13 PM PST

Silly Question Sunday is a weekly thread in which you can ask your RuneScape-related silly questions:

  • "Newb" questions from new players
  • Questions from returning players
  • Silly or nonsensical questions
  • Questions you feel stupid asking elsewhere

Of course, a question thread wouldn't make much sense without answers, so please help out with any answers that you have!

Past Silly Question Sunday threads

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He yak, he interak, but most importantly...

Posted: 03 Feb 2018 09:25 PM PST

PvP advice on r/runescape (and why you should ignore most of it)

Posted: 03 Feb 2018 10:34 PM PST

Re Edit: If you feast your eyeballs on the comments, you may notice the people I was trying to not name and shame have gone ahead and outted themselves for you, all ~15 of 'em.

Skull Tricking Posts

Recently there has been a rise in posts talking about safety in PvP and how to either avoid pkers or avoid being skulled. These posts are being made more frequently because a "new" (actually really old since pK shared with us the method last year on reddit) force skull has been found and abused by a few FCs. These FCs have access to reddit just like everyone else, and use it to their advantage whenever a post questioning the wild comes up.

Gearing Up in the Wilderness

There are numerous comments or posts that either directly ask a question or touch on the question of "what do I wear for X" in regards to wilderness activities. Once again, pkers have access to reddit just like everyone else and use it to their advantage on "educating" people into wilderness safety and what to bring to certain areas.

Wilderness Advice

Besides gearing up for the wilderness or avoiding skull tricks there are also misc. wilderness tips and tricks "helpful" players share with others, or educate others on, however these "helpful" players happen to be pkers and most of the time their advice is intentionally wrong in a certain area to take advantage of players.

Taking Advantage of r/runescape as a Pker

disclaimer

A post I made in the past that linked comments from users that were doing this caused my post to be removed, for that reason I will not be linking examples of this specifically targetting a user, you can use the search function to search PvP terms such as "Skull Trick" you'll see exactly what I mean. The same ~10-15 people will be commenting on every single post, always giving some really shitty answers.

Taking Advantage: Skull Tricking Advice

  • Strength in Numbers: Pkers will upvote incorrect info & try to get as many comments saying the same type of thing with a different set of words to trick the average reader into thinking it's true (since so many people are saying it)

ie: This post is asking what can skull them in the wilderness. Initially a users comment had 7 upvotes, despite it being incorrect. My FC member commented on it with actual proof, unsurprisingly this comment was both downvoted and was followed by numerous slandering comments about the user and the users FC leader. Despite all the comments being untrue, and made by actual lurers who openly admitted to luring Meru's FC members for a Yellow Phat, SGB and SOS (3 diff people) they made these comments because the average reader will go "oh, this guy has a bunch of upvotes and this dude has a few downvotes and a bunch of negative comments about him, he's probably a lurer trying to trick me"

  • Giving the tip of the iceberg of information to posts that will inevitably reach the front page, but they will do so in a casual way to make it seem like they're not knowledgeable on the subject so no one will question why the information isn't complete.

ie; "Corruption shot/blast dont skull you anymore"

but will leave out "they do skull you under certain circumstances, and pretty much all other AoEs also still skull you under similar circumstances"

however they will word it like so

"i was at chaos ele for my reaper and I used corruption blast while a pker was near me and didn't skull so i don't think it works anymore, thank god cuz i would've lost my nox staff lol"

Actual Skull Trick info

Currently there is 3 confirmed skull trick methods available, pK claims there to be 6 but I guess either no one has found them or they've been patched since his claim. Admittedly he's a bit of an asshole and stated he wouldn't share anything else with r/runescape after his ban so I doubt all 6 will ever get known, (paraphrashing here) 'jagex can just look thru my pages of bug reports and fix it if they give a shit'

But, go thru all current skull trick related posts and note the very same people continously saying that AoEs don't skull you. AOES SKULL YOU

https://gfycat.com/BeautifulCourageousCuckoo (proof)

Additionally, certain familiars that I won't name can still force skull you if your familiar kills them, previously the spirit wolf worked like this but there are more that do.

A certain ability can cause a player to skull if they have auto retaliate on, again not going to name the ability mainly because I don't even know what ability it is :(

and, finally (this isn't really abuse) player clickboxes can be enlarged due to glitches, causing people to misclick you.

The 3 other ones Idk my dudes, sorry.

As for how to prevent them?

Preventing Skull Tricks

Turn NPC & Player Attack Options to Right Click

Don't bring a familiar into the wilderness & leave auto retaliate off. Don't go into multi-way combat, don't fight back against pkers unless you are 100% okay with potentially losing your item to a bug. Don't use any AoEs anywhere, don't mistake players attacking you for them using an attack animation in combo with committed perk.

Taking Advantage: Gearing Up

  • Inefficient Gear Setups written in a detailed way to seem like they know what they're talking about, sometimes referencing KC

ie: 'Got my Chaos title after 40k rev KC, wore full full tetsu with kopesh mh and offhand gwd 2 blade and 120 cape, just had a shield to easily escape any pkers"

or "just 3 item at X so you don't risk anything"

or "just bring gear in inventory to fight back if a pker attacks you, hide it in your inventory and use it if they attack you to kill them they won't expect it"

truth is, there is an actual efficient gear setup for each task and they aren't mentioned very much. You'll also have pkers pretending to be pvmers who will denounce comments about bringing the Hellfire bow anywhere, stating theyve been pked "literally 10 times in a row" as soon as they grab the HFB. This is complete bullshit my dudes, the wild is dead as fuck barely anyone is gunna kill you with a HFB on. Other pkers bait each other to multi zones using the HFB so actual pkers don't ever go for the HFB since they're usually weary of a team.

Actual Info: Gearing Up

  • Lava Strykewyrms:

Royal D'hide, Desert Amulet (3-4), Sixth age Circuit Ring, Focus Sight and a Royal Crossbow or Hellfire Bow is all you need.

Players will continously reference a full slayer helmet but the focus sight will still give you the slayer helm bonus, the full helmet is potential risk for nothing. If you want more damage for w/e reason and again for w/e reason don't want a T99 bow that takes 2-3 mins to find, use a Decimation at most. Ignore posts that tell you to 1 item a T90 weapon, because protect item exists, as if that does shit. Pkers will take advantage of your examine settings being unprivate, see your exact prayer points at current time and be able to do a number of things to smite you out, even if you eat a fury shark they'll stall it to kill you for +1 so don't bring a tier 90.

  • Revanents (title)

Ranged is complete ass at Revs due to MDS healing the revs (seriously JaGex what the FUCK please fix) and melee is great but dangerous (ie; Scythe can AoE and half your abilities are AoE so you'll probs skull) so, your best bet is Magic.

Magic is really strong and you don't have to risk very much. An augmented Superior Zuriels Staff is my personal recommendation, total cost should be around 8M and it'll last you for probably your entire rev title. Armor would be Skeletal or Lunar, with a desert amulet (3-4) or Salve amulet (e) and a Sixth age Circuit Ring (LOTD DOES NOTHING SO DON'T FUCKING BRING IT PLEASE AHHHHHHHHH) Other weapons would be a Staff of Light (can't attack the higher tier revs) or, a Chaotic Staff. with Overloads all revs except the Dragon should be killable.

Royal D'hide with the Hellfire bow is another choice if you're fortunate enough not to have unlocked MDS.

  • Divination

Bring the fuckin succ machine and nothing else, don't bring gear in your inventory to fight back just die and come back, it takes a few seconds to return and you risk nothing.

If you're collecting cursed energy for money without the Vaccuum I would really recommend incan's over it, but at most you should bring full royal d'hide (if no div outfit) and a darkbow with mobile on it (if you have invention unlocked), with some food in inventory. A 1 click teleport (ie; wilderness sword) would also be really handy if you don't mind destroying your cursed energy, assuming you bank frequently it might not be a big deal to you.

As soon as you see a pker, you should immediately anticipate and surge towards the wall (so south..) pray against whatever they're using and keep running. Don't freedom anything unless it's a 3 second stun as anything else will be a waste and their intention is for you to burn it sooner. Continue to surge and use anticipate and you'll likely get away since most won't chase a competent person, if not and you do die, who gives a shit if you were banking every ~300 energy you should be risking nothing.

Don't bring gear with you, they want you to bring gear so that when you whip it out they skull trick you and get your +1-3 items that you thought you were slick concealing, we're not dumb we can see when a naked guy has 85 arraxyte arrows in their ammo slot, we will provoke you into skulling yourself and smite your nox bow, that's life.

  • Agility

don't be slick and hide shit in your inventory, just use a demonic skull and food, at most bring a shield or a mobile switch (better yet, a darkbow with mobile) if a pker comes, you can usually kite them around the course and logout, you can also go up and down the entrance to the agility coures spamming "join" on a friend of yours and eventually you'll be able to, assuming you have the food to spare a pker should never kill you as long as you stay calm.

  • Chaos Elemental (reaper/title)

For your reaper assignments, literally 1 a tier 60-70 weapon or Royal Crossbow, it's 4 kills and should take under 4 minutes even if you use a guthix staff, don't 3 item your boss gear because you won't skull, just 1 item some really shitty weapon and finish the task.

For the title, Hellfire bow and Royal D'hide, if not, RCB or Decimation at most alongside the Royal D'hide, using a Sixth age Circuit and a Desert Amulet (3-4) (btw these are reclaimable for free and good stats hence the use of them in this) You should bring a lockpick in your inventory to get inside axe hut, almost no pker has any sense to bring one, and also open the jail doors by going into the spirit realm behind the castle and closing them. If a pker comes you should anticipate + pray against them and run directly towards the web (single) if they are coming from the single area, (lots of them) you may feel better running towards the castle, going up and down the stairs or in and out of the jail doors is enough time to hop on someone else.

Taking Advantage: Tips & Tricks

  • Writting a literal essay to re-inforce their pvp experience, or self depricating comments such as "i'm a lurer myself so.." "i'm a skull tricker myself so.." when explaining why their information is correct.

Once again this has to do with only giving partial information instead of the whole truth, they might mention to turn your player attack options to right click only, since they know that familiars count as NPC attack options and as long as you don't turn those to right click you can still left click on peoples familiars, pkers also know that you can glitch familiars to be left-clickable no matter what your settings are, but they won't disclose that information when informing people how to protect themselves against pkers.

Here's some tips & tricks that are actually useful, but again take them how you want since I used to play RS and I used to be a pker so w/e

Actual Tips & Tricks

  • Wilderness Maps made by pK and re-done by Chigz_

  • These show you all the multi/single zones in the wilderness, staying in single whenever possible is almost always the best thing for you to do.

  • Notes: pK posted an update for his multi/single zones stating there's "a line of multi by the bloodwood tree near mage arena" and "a line of single way by the lumberyard near the broken ship for some reason btw" a few months ago but never fixed the maps.

  • Pk's Wilderness Abilities Mini-Guide

  • Explains actual things they are used for, including very important tricks such as teleblock being removed by immortality.

  • Vladiii's PvP Guide

  • This is a very detailed guide for EoC PvP that I'd recommend people read thru on a rainy day if they spend a long time in the wild. I don't agree with everything but most of it is correct.

  • If your examine settings are unprivate, players can see your current prayer points, and each time they re-examine you it'll update them. This will allow players to prepare to smite you out. You should never have your examine settings set to public while inside the Wildernesss.

  • Pkers will follow your world thru your Friends List, Clan Chat, Group Chat, Guest Clan Chat and even thru Discord or other means if you announce the information out anywhere they'll find it. If you're training somewhere and are worried about being killed, just leave every chat and don't announce your location, especially if you're trying to re-enter the abyss.

  • Pkers will crash you inside the Abyss to make you leave and re-enter on a different world, killing you.

  • Pkers will PM you to get you out of the Abyss/Rift to make you re-enter on a different world, killing you.

  • Never accept items that Pkers try to give you in the wilderness, cursed energy will cause any level to attack you, warbands supplies puts you in multi and lets any level attack you, demonic skull will cause any level to attack you and certain items can have a huge value that will protect over your +1 item.

  • Never lend out an item to someone that started talking to you in the wildernes, you can use certain bugs to make protect item work on the lent item instead of your normal item.

  • There are a lot of tele tabs that will tele you to the wilderness, likewise there are ancient spells and lunar spells that will to. If someone is asking you to meet them somewhere, go there the way you know how. Use the wiki if you don't know how, don't accept teleports from randoms and don't click random teleports from them either.

  • You can be force walked dozens of squares using certain methods, never follow someone in the safe-side of the Wilderness or Red Portal just because you think it's safe, it's not at all. Never use an item on another player either, they can force walk you the same way, same goes with trade screens.

  • There is 1 single tile of Wilderness in the Safe-zone by the Goblin encampment/Bandos's body (falador wilderness), never ever go into the safe zone near there if a pker or a lurer is telling you it's safe. Because there is 1 single tile that isn't.

  • Always stay in single-way combat when possible, you can go all the way from Lavas to the border in single-way, so never enter multi-way.

  • Don't have expensive presets in your quick-loadouts if possible, as pkers will typically try to get you to type a response to them while banking, thus pulling out your high risk loadout and killing you for it.

  • Whenever someone tries to bait you into killing someone because they're "AFK" they aren't, likewise pkers will wear really high risk with a slayer helmet to trick people into attacking them, its just a ploy to get you to skull. If you aren't planning on pking when you're on your slayer task in the first place, don't start just because you see some Bandos, its not worth it.

  • Not all Warbands FCs require Wars or TS3. A lot of FCs will bully naked whites into submission by killing them, following them around and killing them some more, saying they'll stop if you join their FCs. They will tell you that "all FCs require TS3" "all FCs require Wars" this is not true.

  • BossBands FC doesn't require any Wars and has tier 70 weapon requierments

  • Likewise, pK doesn't require Wars and uses Discord but has Tier 75/80 Weapon Reqs depending on class

  • Not every FC even requires you to use Forums to apply, CPK uses referals and completely ignores forums, while pK has a discord channel dedicated to applications that lists all the forum information so you can avoid the forums altogether.

  • You do not need to be in environment where racist, sexist and derogatory terms are thrown around consistently, where you feel harassed just for Warbands supplies (imagine joining a FC like this and actually feeling okay answering questions like this) You can SOLO Warbands without a problem at all. And you can do it completely naked don't even bring a weapon.

  • Fury Shark protects an additional item for 1 minute once consumed, the amount of HP it heals is abnormal in comparisson to other HP healed so pkers will tell immediately if you consume one. Don't bring just one fury shark because they will intentionally wait for the 1 minute to be up before killing you, bring a few of them and understand that stuns and binds will cause you not to be able to consume them, don't use it as a failsafe, just use it as a QoL to keep a second item that you were intentionally ready to lose in the first place because it doesn't always work.

  • Superior Ancient Maces can remove ~350-400 prayer points from your prayer at once, normally it's around 200 each spec but considering "mace teams" exist and will mace you 4-5 times at once you'll be smited out quite easily. If ever you see pkers on normal prayers using normal smite, or you see multiple melee pkers you should always gtfo asap, if you stick around you'll probably be losing your +1.

TL;DR

Pkers use reddit too, and they can and will use it to deceive and spread misinformation, stop and think about what someone is saying on a post and try to get proof of what they're saying before you believe them.

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mfw it actually works at cursed wisps

Posted: 04 Feb 2018 05:19 AM PST

You can't rob someone if they're robbing themselves

Posted: 03 Feb 2018 03:07 PM PST

Cool map from the Wiki.

Posted: 04 Feb 2018 05:05 AM PST

I've been making Vis Wax for over a year for now and somehow never noticed it. RC guild is actually hovering above Gielinor. That's so cool!

Posted: 04 Feb 2018 02:15 AM PST

i started playing rs again ... so i made a quick drawing

Posted: 04 Feb 2018 03:07 AM PST

This meme was inspired by true events.

Posted: 04 Feb 2018 01:26 AM PST

Menaphos, holy sh**

Posted: 04 Feb 2018 05:41 AM PST

I've played rs on and off for years now and I haven't put attention much on new things. Today I wanted to level up my woodcutting, and rs guide suggested acadia trees in menaphos. I had no idea what menaphos was so I did the Jack of spades quest. My mind was fucking blown in the cut scene, where they show the city of menaphos. I have never seen anything like it in Runescape. I've only hanged out in taverley dungeon, G.E, falador and burthope. Do you guys have any tips what to do in Menaphos and are there any other big cities (other than Prifddinas) that I should pay a visit?

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Why are shadow & barrows dyes not world broadcasted like 3a, blood and the cape slot items are?

Posted: 03 Feb 2018 07:51 PM PST

It always seemed odd to me that they don't have a world broadcast considering how rare they are when things like Nex items which is a ~1/20 drop for a 3 minute boss fight is world broadcasted.

Maybe this can be changed with the new clue rework if people agree with it?

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So this was a thing that happened when I logged in today. When I tried to report the 'account', my client crashed and my system told me a heap had been corrupted. What the hell?

Posted: 04 Feb 2018 12:07 AM PST

A Guide To: Magic Gloves

Posted: 04 Feb 2018 07:32 AM PST

lunar teletabs what do you think?

Posted: 04 Feb 2018 05:47 AM PST

we got ancient tele tabs and normal tele tabs, where the love for lunar tele tabs?

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Drunk players are nice

Posted: 03 Feb 2018 07:02 PM PST

Ummm.. Why?

Posted: 03 Feb 2018 03:23 PM PST

TIL: Gemi is obtainable by making gizmo shells

Posted: 03 Feb 2018 04:21 PM PST

1m firemaking xp in 8 minutes!

Posted: 04 Feb 2018 03:39 AM PST

Knowing Jagex won't add a HEV suit to Runescape, I still managed to make the most of it.

Posted: 03 Feb 2018 05:25 PM PST

Gave my Ironman 20 bonds for Premier Club Membership that ends on February 4th @23:59 and it's not available? Is this a bug?

Posted: 04 Feb 2018 01:11 AM PST

Is there a bug with the time that the Premier club ends? It's currently 09:00 on the 4th of February and the website says it ends @23:59 tonight. I sent over 375m to do this and now I can't get the package? Please help.

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Get it together Jagex

Posted: 03 Feb 2018 12:16 PM PST

PSA: Treasure Trail Overhaul Update will come AFTER BXPW

Posted: 03 Feb 2018 02:05 PM PST

Corporeal beast title at 698 kc

Posted: 04 Feb 2018 04:00 AM PST

:( I just miss you so much.

Posted: 03 Feb 2018 07:55 PM PST

Reminder that Runescape Classic is still up, and all you need to play it is Membership!

Posted: 04 Feb 2018 01:40 AM PST

You can play the the 2001 version of Runescape - Runescape Classic - either by going here and installing the legacy client, or launching it off of Konduit.

I tried it out today - after completing Cook's Assistant and failing to find anyone I almost quit, but I managed to find someone else who had just started and it was very fun!

Some tips: Pickpocket the men in Lumby or Varrock or wherever for gp. It's amazing gp when you're starting out. Just know that if you fail to pickpocket someone, they'll start to attack you. All you need to do if this happens is walk away - the aggro will reset.

Here's a photo of me at the end of the session with my sweet, sweet bronze chainbody.

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