Super Smash Bros - Daily Discussion Thread 12/29/17


Daily Discussion Thread 12/29/17

Posted: 28 Dec 2017 11:10 PM PST

Welcome to the Daily Discussion Thread series on /r/smashbros! Inspired by /r/SSBM and /r/hiphopheads's DDTs, you can post here:

  • General questions about Smash

  • General discussion (tentatively allowing for some off-topic discussion)

  • "Light" content that might not have been allowed as its own post (please keep it about Smash)

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  • Be good to one another.

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  • Please keep your meme spam contained to the sticky comment provided below.

If you have any suggestions about future DDTs or anything else subreddit related, please send them our way! Thanks in advance!

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Congratulations to Mango for reaching 5K subs on Twitch!

Posted: 29 Dec 2017 06:34 PM PST

https://twitter.com/C9Mang0/status/946925270753148928

Insane how much he's gained in only a few years.

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Smash Ultimate Poster by olivier bisson

Posted: 29 Dec 2017 03:59 AM PST

2018 Melee Techs and Tricks Guides

Posted: 29 Dec 2017 08:42 AM PST

Hey everyone! So if you haven't been noticing lately I've been slowly updating the 2017 melee tech videos for the new year and have finally released every updated version, plus 1 new video for the now 2018 Melee Guides. Again these guides aren't perfect, but they are a seriously large amount of knowledge all together which is what I was hoping to provide for the community. With all the knowledge from previous guides and data collectors, along with a few people helping me out personally, I'm proud to present this year's collection of guides and hope that they are used by older and newer players alike to keep this amazing game community growing.

Here is a link for the playlist with all the videos:

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLQRQYzKDzrDrv0I9N68Y-9efH2Jo3Vt-r

Here is every characters guide:

General: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrHV45Xvs28

Bowser: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCKo18bgc24

DK: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8y_MdNQuZB0

Doc: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtPtMkv1dkc

Falco: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSPBZSZMxyU

Falcon: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAF69hGJjdQ

Fox: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8faKkkSwF6Y

Ganondorf: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBNlPEOwVuQ

G&W: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JecWDn8qt4

Icies: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQuf7Yhy0sw

Jigglypuff: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYpagxWLcW8

Kirby: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nm5aoPuptEU

Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2Zvvc2_Xeg

Luigi: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6zqeVEfQzo

Mario: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRi6A1uB_Rw

Marth: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhBoWyWyrb8

Mewtwo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZS3Tk1_k80

Ness: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qw73OvAKdF0

Peach: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4VFJveeYPM

Pichu: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jWeLW1cMTo

Pikachu: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkllpSIhSvo

Roy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNy2LziSRZM

Samus: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7JMGyhWv60

Sheik: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKkwQdrLm_k

Yoshi: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4gvLKc5CpQ

YL: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aikFXS69Wv0

Zelda: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JHod7Fk878

Glitches: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQ8m22sgtSw

Things may not be perfect but for 2 and a half years of work, it is a labor of love for the Melee community so I hope you all enjoy. Again thanks to everyone who has supported me or helped me out with this.

Lastly, I do plan on doing some future guides and work, my current video creating schedule looks like the following:

  • Create Melee/Smash 4 local PR Videos/Image
  • Chaingrab Guides for every notable chaingrab

If possible from this point on I had these in the making:

  • Beginners Guide to Melee
  • Melee Terminology Guide
  • Advanced Players Guide to Melee

At this point I am not sure how much more time I will be able to devote to these seeing as I have officially graduated college, but potential future guides from here would likely be:

  • Fundamental Techniques for each character
  • Counterplay strategies for each character
  • Potential Updates to these guides

Again all of this is completely time and recording dependant, but if perfect I would like to have everything done by the end of 2018 as I am not the fastest content creator. But we will see. For now, enjoy and happy new year!

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SSBMRank 2017 Release Schedule, FAQs, and Who Barely Missed the Cut

Posted: 29 Dec 2017 05:16 PM PST

https://www.redbull.com/us-en/ssbmrank-2017-announcement

Week 1

100-91 - 1/3/18

90-81 - 1/4/18

80-71 - 1/5/18

Week 2

70-61 - 1/8/18

60-51 - 1/9/18

50-41 - 1/10/18

40-31 - 1/11/18

30-21 - 1/12/18

Week 3

20-11 - 1/15/18

10-1 - 1/16/18

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Hey it's me, the Melee Piano Guy, and I finally got a new live piece done, this time it's "Mother" (#17 in series)

Posted: 29 Dec 2017 01:25 PM PST

SmashUMA Fall 2017 Wii U Power Rankings

Posted: 29 Dec 2017 05:55 PM PST

Darkshad's footstool combo on Cloud

Posted: 29 Dec 2017 06:41 PM PST

LibraRank 2017 - Day 5/Finale - #10-#1

Posted: 29 Dec 2017 01:01 PM PST

ESAM's End of 2017 Tier List: Top Tier (FINAL)

Posted: 29 Dec 2017 11:47 AM PST

Tokaigi Presents: New Year's Eve Dream Match Exhibition!

Posted: 29 Dec 2017 06:14 PM PST

(baby'sfirstredditpost,plsforgive)

Hey there!

What with the whole new 'esports license' thing in Japan, Dwango (who is one of the companies responsible for Tokaigi) is hosting an event to ring in the new year and generate hype for the future of esports in Japan!

The event will feature 10 international players facing off against Japan's best. Three of these players will be showcasing their respective games in a First-to-Takes-Up-Two-Hours-Somehow exhibition match, which are Tekken 7, SFV, and Smash 4. The theme is centered on runbacks with the top Japanese players: JDCR vs Noroma (Tekken World Tour Korea), Punk vs Tokido (EVO), and Nairo vs KEN (Tokaigi 2017).

Here's a quick rundown of the schedule + stream linklet's see how well I can convert time when I'm sick:

>>Stream: http://live.nicovideo.jp/gate/lv308542139 (Note that you will need a Niconico account to view. Scroll down to the bottom for an easy guide on how to register. Until it goes live, all you'll see is the description.)

JST PST EST Event Name
1:30PM-1:45PM 8:30PM-8:45PM (30th) 11:30PM-11:45PM (30th) Opening Ceremony
1:45PM-3:15PM 8:45PM-10:15PM (30th) 11:45PM-1:15AM (31st) PLAYER UNKNOWN'S BATTLE GROUNDS
3:15PM-3:45PM 10:15PM-10:45PM (30th) 1:15AM-1:45AM Tokaigi News (Part 1)
3:45PM-5:30PM 10:45PM-12:30AM (31st) 1:45AM-3:30AM TEKKEN 7
5:30PM-5:45PM 12:30AM-12:45AM 3:30AM-3:45AM Tokaigi News (Part 2)
5:45PM-7:45PM 12:45AM-2:45AM 3:45AM-5:45AM ULTRA STREET FIGHTER II The Final Challengers
7:45PM-8:15PM 2:45AM-3:15AM 5:45AM-6:15AM Tokaigi News (Part 3)
8:15PM-10:15PM 3:15AM-5:15AM 6:15AM-8:15AM Super Smash Bros. for Wii U
10:15PM-10:45PM 5:15AM-5:45AM 8:15AM-8:45AM Tokaigi News (Part 4)
10:45PM-12:30AM (1st) 5:45AM-7:30AM 8:45AM-10:30AM Street Fighter V
12:30AM-12:45AM (1st) 7:30AM-7:45AM 10:30AM-10:45AM Closing Ceremony

>>Trailer: http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/1513923788 I have no idea where to put this trailer, so I'm just going to put it here.

The commentators for the Smash 4 section will be Nama-ta (Japan's D1 in a sense!) and Abadango. Nama-ta will provide more of the play-by-play while Abadango will provide analysis and overall insight into the match.

They have yet to state how many matches these exhibition matches will be, but my guess is on FT10 or something. A possible 19 matches of the best Sonic and ZSS + whatever else the Nairoulette decides that day!

Again, this is to celebrate Japan's advent into esports proper, so please show some support by tuning in and celebrating the New Year :)!

(And a big thank you to Umeki for the event help and False for the Nairo clip!)

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SSBM Top 50 Plays of 2017 - Part 4/5 (20-11) - Super Smash Bros. Melee - EvenMatchupGaming

Posted: 29 Dec 2017 02:37 PM PST

Top 5 Most Overlooked Sets - Larry Lurr

Posted: 29 Dec 2017 11:33 AM PST

NY Capital Region Smash 4 PR Fall 2017

Posted: 29 Dec 2017 10:07 AM PST

Who is the most fun character to main in any Smash Game?

Posted: 29 Dec 2017 04:18 PM PST

In my opinion I have been having a lot of fun practicing Yoshi and Captain Falcon in melee.

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27" CRT in great condition needs new home. (Raleigh, NC)

Posted: 29 Dec 2017 06:27 PM PST

Wasn't sure where else to post this, I just figured I'd try and help out if someone could use it:

My parents are finally trading up from their CRT to a flatscreen. The thing is is amazing condition, but my dad just wants to carry it to the dump unless I can find a smasher to take it away. It is up a flight of stairs, so he's willing to give it away for free but you have to get it down the stairs. DM me for details

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The SSBMRank Top 100... almost

Posted: 29 Dec 2017 08:43 PM PST

From here, we have the ballot.

From here, we can eliminate players from the ballot

Here's the result sorted by character (one character each because I'm lazy)

. 1 2 3 4 5
1 Jerry (Fox) Colbol (Fox) Crush (Fox) Medz (Fox) AbsentPage (Fox)
2 Zgetto (Fox) MikeHaze (Fox) Milkman (Fox) Uncle mojo (Fox) Moky (Fox)
3 Chillin (Fox) Bobby Frizz (Fox) Cactuar (Fox) Cal (Fox) Slox (Fox)
4 Leffen (Fox) Kels (Fox) SFAT (Fox) Ryan Ford (Fox) KJH (Fox)
5 Ice (Fox) DJ Nintendo (Fox) Hax (Fox) Druggedfox (Fox) FatGoku (Fox)
6 Lovage (Fox) Lucky (Fox) L (Fox) Darktooth (Fox) Kaeon (Fox)
7 Syrox (Fox) Rik (Fox) Redd (Fox) Professor Pro (Fox) Spark (Sheik)
8 Darkatma (Sheik) Shroomed (Sheik) Plup (Sheik) Captain Faceroll (Sheik) Drephen (Sheik)
9 Laudandus (Sheik) Amsah (Sheik) Android (Sheik) Swedish Delight (Sheik) KirbyKaze (Sheik)
10 Overtriforce (Sheik) Junebug (Sheik) iBDW (Sheik) Trulliam (Falco) Ginger (Falco)
11 Squid (Falco) Rocky (Falco) Ralph (Falco) homemadewaffles (Falco) KPAN (Falco)
12 Zhu (Falco) Westballz (Falco) Mang0 (Falco) El Fuego (Falco) King Momo (Falco)
13 Rishi (Marth) Zain (Marth) La Luna (Marth) Zealous5000 (Marth) Reeve (Marth)
14 PewPewU (Marth) Iceman (Marth) Tai (Marth) Nightmare (Marth) Mew2King (Marth)
15 Vro (Marth) Bladewise (Peach) Kalamazhu (Peach) Trif (Peach) Armada (Peach)
16 lloD (Peach) Azusa (Peach) MacD (Peach) Mafia (Peach) Wizzrobe (Falcon)
17 S2J (Falcon) n0ne (Falcon) Gahtzu (Falcon) Captain Smuckers (Falcon) $mike (Falcon)
18 NMW (Falcon) ChuDat (Icies) Bananas (Icies) dizzkidboogie (Icies) ARMY (Icies)
19 Drunksloth (Icies) Nintendude (Icies) Hungrybox (Puff) 2saint (Puff) Prince F. Abu (Puff)
20 Legend (Puff) Abate (Luigi) Luigi Ka-Master (Luigi) Blea Gelo (Luigi) Eddy Mexico (Luigi)
21 Duck (Samus) HugS (Samus) Axe (Pikachu) Kage (Ganon) aMSa (Yoshi)

As you can see, there are 105 players here. 100 of them will make SSBMRank 2017.

Fox: 34
Sheik: 14
Falco: 12
Marth: 11
Peach: 8
Falcon: 7
Icies: 6
Puff: 4
Luigi: 4
Samus: 2
Pikachu: 1
Ganon: 1
Yoshi: 1

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Respawn 6 Official Trailer! Upcoming tournament in Mainz, Germany.

Posted: 29 Dec 2017 11:20 AM PST

/r/smashbros - 2017 - Top 20 Best Melee Sets - Day 19

Posted: 29 Dec 2017 06:33 PM PST

Welcome to an ongoing poll where we will try to see what /r/smashbros thinks are the 20 best Melee sets of 2017.


Yesterday, Plup vs Leffen at Shine 2017 won the poll!

Armada vs Leffen at Beast 7 (Grand Finals) got the most upvotes and therefore was added to the poll!


How it works:

  • Vote in the poll below for what you think is the best group in the set.

  • Nominate a set to be added to the poll in the comments. Do not nominate a set if you see that they've already been nominated. Please post a VOD or video link to the set, as well as a reason why the set should be nominated (excellent play, the meaning of the set, etc).

  • Upvote the sets that you would like to see on the poll. (please)

  • The next day, the set with the most upvotes will be added to the poll.

  • Grand Finals Bracket Resets count as the same set - just one bigger set.

  • Singles and Doubles sets are eligible for nomination.

  • Please do not downvote people. (please)

  • Please remember to upvote this thread if you want to see more people's opinions in this ranking!


Vote here: Crush/n0ne, Mew2king/ChuDat, Plup/Westballz, Mango/Axe, Mew2King/Leffen, Armada/Leffen


Have fun!


Rank Player 1 Player 2 Tournament Round Result VOD
1 C9 Mang0 Falco TSM Leffen Fox Genesis 4 Loser's Quarters 3-2 VOD
2 C9 Mang0 Fox Marth [A]rmada Peach Royal Flush Grand Finals 3-2, 3-2 VOD
3 PG Plup Sheik [A]rmada Peach Fox The Big House 7 Winner's Semis 3-1 VOD
4 EG PPMD Falco and L0zR Fox Liquid Hungrybox Jigglypuff and Liquid Crunch Fox Bad Moon Rising 2 Loser's Quarters 3-2 VOD
5 EF MVG Mew2King Marth [A]rmada Peach Canada Cup 2017 Loser's Finals 3-2 VOD
6 Liquid Hungrybox Jigglypuff [A]rmada Fox GTX 2017 Grand Finals 3-2, 3-2 VOD
7 VGBC aMSa Yoshi EGtv.Crush Fox Battle of BC 2 Loser's Top 8 Qualifier 3-2 VOD
8 EF MVG Mew2King Marth TSM Leffen Fox Canada Cup 2017 Grand Finals 3-0, 3-2 VOD
9 [A]rmada Peach Tempo S2J CaptainFalcon Genesis 4 Winner's Top 32 3-2 VOD
10 Tempo S2J CaptainFalcon EF MVG Mew2King Sheik Shine 2017 Loser's Semis 3-2 VOD
11 [A]rmada Peach Fox and [A]ndroid Sheik TSM Leffen Fox and Ice Fox Genesis 4 Grand Finals 3-2, 3-2 VOD
12 Liquid Hungrybox Jigglypuff Frys Wizzrobe CaptainFalcon Smash Rivalries Grand Finals 2-3, 3-0 VOD
13 EF MVG Mew2King Sheik Fox Marth PG Plup Sheik Smash Summit Spring 2017 Loser's Quarters 3-2 VOD
14 Tempo Axe Pikachu Falco CLG SFAT Fox Dreamhack Denver Loser's Quarters 3-2 VOD
15 C9 Mang0 Falco PG Plup Sheik Super Smash Con 2017 Winner's Finals 3-2 VOD
16 PG Plup Fox Liquid Hungrybox Jigglypuff Dreamhack Atlanta Grand Finals 0-3, 3-0 VOD
17 Zain Marth TSM Leffen Fox Smash 'n' Splash 3 Winner's Round 1 3-2 VOD
18 PG Plup Samus TSM Leffen Fox Shine 2017 Winner's Quarters 3-2 VOD
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Brawl Minus 4.2 Released!!!

Posted: 29 Dec 2017 05:38 AM PST

Where can I purchase tickets to attend Genesis 5?

Posted: 29 Dec 2017 05:50 PM PST

I'm planning on attending Genesis 5 as a spectator and I'm not fully sure where to purchase the tickets. This is the first major event I'm attending. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you!

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VoiD's crew (GSM) vs Larry Lurr's crew (2-Scoops) Trailer

Posted: 29 Dec 2017 09:26 PM PST

https://youtu.be/1cqS1Rihd7g

Event: https://kawaiikon.com/

Stream: https://www.twitch.tv/theodofaction

Edited by K0rean https://twitter.com/gsmK0rean

This will be happening in Hawaii at the event Kawaii Kon on March 2nd. The score is 1 - 1 and this will be the last crew battle for GSM and 2-Scoops. Don't miss out on the final clash between Larry Lurr's crew (2-Scoops) and VoiD's crew (GSM)! You can always watch the first 2 crew battles as well.

1st crew battle: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVXHcTKaoqg&t=403s

2nd crew battle: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPdI1hmz1Po

Music: Unknown Artist vs M.O.P. - Ante Up (DnB Remix) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zV3n-cpNYa4

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/r/SmashBros's - 2017 - 20 Best Smash 4 Sets - Day 18

Posted: 29 Dec 2017 04:28 PM PST

Welcome to an ongoing poll where we will try to see what /r/smashbros thinks are the 20 best Smash 4 sets of 2017.


Yesterday, Nairo vs WaDi Losers Quarters at Super Smash Con 2017 won the poll with 10/39 (28.6%) of the vote.

Fatality vs ZeRo Losers Finals at Momocon 2017 got the most upvotes yesterday and thus was added to the poll. Thanks to /u/TheJamaicanGamer for the nomination!


How it works:

  • Vote in the poll below for what you think is the best group in the set.

  • Nominate a set to be added to the poll in the comments. Do not nominate a set if you see that they've already been nominated. Please post a VOD or video link to the set, as well as a reason why the set should be nominated (excellent play, the meaning of the set, etc).

  • Upvote the sets that you would like to see on the poll.

  • The next day, the set with the most upvotes will be added to the poll.

  • Grand Finals Bracket Resets count as the same set - just one bigger set.

  • Singles and Doubles sets are eligible for nomination.

  • Please do not downvote people.

  • Please remember to upvote this thread if you want to see more people's opinions in this ranking!


VODs:

  • ZeRo vs Zenyou Winners Semis at 2GGC: Genesis Saga - VOD

  • Fatality vs ZeRo Losers Finals at Momocon 2017 - VOD

  • Ranai vs Raito Losers Top 48 at 2GGC: Nairo Saga - VOD

  • Tweek vs MKLeo Winners Finals at 2GGC: MKLeo Saga - VOD

  • MKLeo vs Kameme Winners Eighths at Frostbite 2017 - VOD

  • T vs Stroder Losers Top 16 at 2GGC: West Side Saga - VOD


Vote here: ZeRo/Zenyou, Fatality/ZeRo, Ranai/Raito, Tweek/MKLeo, MKLeo/Kameme, T/Stroder


Rank Player 1 Player 2 Tournament Round Result VOD
1 TSM ZeRo (DiddyKong) Tsu (Lucario) Frostbite 2017 Grand Finals 3-1, 3-2 VOD
2 NRG Nairo (ZeroSuitSamus) (Bowser) TSM ZeRo (DiddyKong) Super Smash Con 2017 Grand Finals 3-2, 3-2 VOD
3 MVG Salem (Bayonetta) TSM ZeRo (DiddyKong) EVO 2017 Grand Finals 3-2, 3-2 VOD
4 MVG FOX MKLeo (Cloud) BSD Elegant (Luigi) GTX 2017 Grand Finals 3-2, 3-2 VOD
5 MVG FOX MKLeo (MetaKnight) TSM ZeRo (DiddyKong) 2GG Championship Grand Finals 2-3, 3-1 VOD & VOD 2
6 BSD Elegant (Luigi) C9 Ally (Mario) 2GG Championship Playoffs 3-2 VOD
7 TSM ZeRo (DiddyKong) C9 Ally (Mario) Smash 'n' Splash 3 Grand Finals 3-1, 3-2 VOD
8 PG ESAM (Samus) (Mewtwo) C9 Ally (Mario) 2GGC: Civil War Losers Top 32 3-1 VOD
9 BC Mr.R (Sheik) TSM ZeRo (DiddyKong) 2GGC: MKLeo Saga Losers Top 16 3-2 VOD
10 NRG Nairo (ZeroSuitSamus) (Bowser) P1 Tweek (Cloud) (DonkeyKong) Midwest Mayhem 9: Old vs New Losers Finals 3-2 VOD
11 Luhtie (ZeroSuitSamus) TSM ZeRo (DiddyKong) 2GGC: Civil War Losers Top 64 3-2 VOD
12 T (Link) Abadango (Mewtwo) 2GGC: Civil War Winners Quarters 3-2 VOD
13 NRG Nairo (Bowser) TSM ZeRo (DiddyKong) Dreamhack Atlanta Losers Top 12 3-2 VOD
14 Gackt (Ness) IMT ANTi (Mario) (Cloud) The Big House 7 Winners Top 128 2-1 VOD
15 TSM ZeRo (DiddyKong) Ranai (MaleVillager) EVO 2017 Winners Eighths 2-1 VOD
16 PG ESAM (Pikachu) RNG Dabuz (Rosalina) Smashadelphia 2017 Grand Finals 3-1, 3-2 VOD
17 NRG Nairo (ZeroSuitSamus) EMP WaDi (Mewtwo) Super Smash Con 2017 Losers Quarters 3-2 VOD
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What's a small thing that could make Smash 5 less fun for you?

Posted: 29 Dec 2017 10:46 AM PST

I don't really have any solid reasoning behind this other than Miis being optional and buried in the settings menu on the Switch, but I'm worried they might remove Mii support altogether instead of making it more robust and adding more fighting styles. Being able to create characters added so much to Smash 4 for me.

What are your concerns?

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Top 20 Sets of 2017 Smash Ends in 2 Days!!

Posted: 29 Dec 2017 04:41 PM PST

Only 3 more days to vote in a set, and 2 more days to nominate a set that isn't yet listed.

Campaign, Nominate and Upvote to get your favourite sets in!!

 

And while your here...

T Link deserves to have more sets up there. Probably the most exciting new player to enter this world scene. At West Side Saga, T went up against the hype greninja in a frog onesie himself, Stroder Greninja

A 5 game thriller of no high tiers with sick combos, insane comebacks, hard reads and high level play with two underused characters. I think it definitely deserves to be remembered as one of the top 20 of this year.

 

So, if you love hype sets with T or Greninja, Vote this set in

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