Unlabelled Super Smash Bros - Daily Discussion Thread 11/20/17

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Super Smash Bros - Daily Discussion Thread 11/20/17

Posted: 19 Nov 2017 11:12 PM PST

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Posted: 20 Nov 2017 08:19 AM PST
Posted: 20 Nov 2017 07:05 PM PST

The FCC is gearing up this week to announce its plans at how it's going to tackle Net Neutrality and considering the head of the FCC is being lobbied by the telecom industry, it's almost for sure their aim is for a full repeal.
For those who are wondering what we do about this, a lot of people are trying to contact congress to make NN legitslation. Or even state legislatures. So the fight isn't necessarily over.
Although, it is highly important to spread the word of this so everyone knows the apparent effects this will have on our modern internet infustructure.
Things like Smash tournament streams could get effected and it might be harder for streamers to do things the way they do now. So spreading is highly important.
If you want more information, there's this nifty website that resides here. https://www.battleforthenet.com/
If you also want to know what violations some ISPs made during Net Neutrality, this reddit post by /u/KenPC sums everything up.
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Posted: 20 Nov 2017 08:36 PM PST
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Posted: 20 Nov 2017 01:42 PM PST

I found a few cheat sheets out there that were either for other versions, or didn't have everything like CSS commands. Here is the complete list of 20XX 4.07++ Key Combos.
Every Direction is done with DPAD

-Character Select Screen (CSS)-

A + X (Hold 3 sec): Resets game and all 20XX settings to default
↑: Metal Character Skin (No gameplay impact)
←: SD Remix Version. Purple Character Background (Melee: SD Remix is a gameplay mod of Super Smash Bros. Melee to make it more balanced. The top tier characters Fox, Falco, Sheik, Marth, Jigglypuff, and Peach were unchanged, while all other characters were given a somewhat large number of buffs and an extremely small number of nerfs.)
→: PAL / NTSC Switch (Yellow Character Background = PAL. Otherwise = NTSC)
↓: Analog Input Display (You can hold Z + ↑ ↓ → ← to modify your control sticks orign)
Z + ↑ ↓ → ← while in Analog Input display: Modify your control sticks origin
With token over character, but not selected + Z: Alternative Character
  • Bowser -> Giga Bowser
  • Peach -> Female Wireframe
  • C Falcon -> Male Wireframe
  • Zelda -> Sheik
  • Ice Climbers -> Popo
  • Pichu -> Masterhand
  • Pikachu -> Crazyhand
L: Alternative Costume 1 (Tip, to easily see the costume choices: Debug -> Textures -> Character Select Screen -> TRI-CSP)
R: Alternative Costume 2
Click NTSC/PAL Icon top left: Rumble Settings

-Stage Select-

↑ / ↓: Cycle through Hacked / Default stages
Y: Only legal Stages
X: Strike Stage under cursor
Z: Reset Striked / Hidden stages
Hold Z when selecting stage: Disable 20XX toggles

-In Game 20XX Toggles-

↑: Freeze Character (Only with frame counter enabled)
↓: Replay / Player Menu (L/R Toggels selected player)
→: Save State (Major)
←: Reload State (Major)
A + ↓: Infinate Shields (Sound cue when enables)
A + ↑: Invincibility (No Knockback)
A + →: Save State (Minor)
A + ←: Reload State (Minor)
Y + ↑: Max Damage = P2%
Y + →: DI Line Draw
  • Teal = Post-Trajectory DI
  • Purple = Pre-Trajectory DI
  • Green = ASDI
  • Orange = SDI
Y + ←: 20XXTE Input Display
While Paused + →: Toggle 20XX / Develop
A + B While game Ending: Salty RunBack (Restart match)
A + Y While game Ending: Salty Random Runback (Random Stage)
Z + C-Stick While Paused: Pan / Zoom camera

-In Game Develop Toggles-

Start: Develop Pause
Z in Develop Pause: Advance 1 frame. Can buffer inputs by holding key while advancing 1 frame
A + Y + →: Lightning Melee
X + ↑: Normal Pause
X + ←: Camera Mode Normal, Develop, Zoom, Fixed
B + ↑: Develop Camera Position Save
B + ↓: Develop Camera Position Load
B + C-Stick: Develop Camera Rotate
B + ← + C-Stick: Develop Camera Zoom
B + → + C-Stick: Develop Camera Pan
X + →: Magus Physics Display and Player Select
X + ↓: Hud and Background Toggle (No Hud, White BG, Black GB, Normal)
R + ↑: Collision Bubbles (All) (Bubbles Only, Bubbles on Model, No Bubbles)
R + →: Collision Bubbles (Self)
R + ←: Misc Toggles (Physics Draw, Foot Position?, CPU Logic Boxes, Item Grab Boxes, Unknown circle on model.)
R + ↓: Camera Limits, Spawns, Blast Zones, ECB, Collision Link, ect.. (Standard View, Alternate Shading, Stage Info, Platforms/Ledges, Normal)
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Posted: 20 Nov 2017 12:33 PM PST
Posted: 20 Nov 2017 07:26 PM PST

Please spread the news to top players that are looking for a sponsor (ex Hugs, Lucky, Ice). Reason is because (former OpTic) Nadeshot is a really big name in the esports industry and is looking for players to join his organization. Here is the video for more information. I think if we get a melee player on this team, it could mean a lot for the growth of melee.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRa7XWbMxEo
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Posted: 20 Nov 2017 09:51 AM PST
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Posted: 20 Nov 2017 01:17 PM PST

Not made by me, but here's the link: https://smashboards.com/threads/guide-sdi-dealing-with-bayonettas-combo-specials.449145/
Two useful tips that have helped me:
1) (NOTE: This was a little misleading. While you cannot buffer SDI inputs, you also don't need to reset the stick to neutral. You don't get locked out, but at worst you may miss an input (because the game ignores it). If you SDI fast enough, this probably won't affect you at all.) Personally speaking, SDI-ing for each move has helped me the most, though your mileage may vary.
2) It's easier to SDI using your hand and your arm strength - not just your thumb. You will be way less effective using your thumb strength alone. Get used to holding the controller in one hand and using SDI with the other as needed.
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Posted: 20 Nov 2017 04:58 PM PST
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Posted: 20 Nov 2017 09:16 PM PST

Should he have moved to SoCal to be everyone's friend?
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Posted: 20 Nov 2017 11:32 AM PST

This is my first post on this subreddit and I want to prefix it by saying I am certainly not very good at the game. I played a lot of Melee and Brawl as a kid, and only recently picked up Smash 4 for the Wii U.
I'm trying to get better at the game, especially at playing Marth, and my current strategy is to play against CPU enemies at ever increasing difficulties. (Please don't say things akin to "You'll only get better by playing against real people!" - social anxiety does not make this very easy for me).
In the past few days, I had quite a lot of trouble against Dedede, who is supposedly one of the weaker characters. I just can't seem to actually push him out of the arena. Even with 150% dmg and upwards, landing a successful counter (Down + B) or Dancing Blade (Sideways + B) seems to only nudge him barely outside the map, where he has no trouble flying back.
I can never seem to land any smash attacks either, since he pretty much dodges any attempt at doing so.
Is there any advice for me in this situation? Or does this post shout "Noob!" so glaringly that "I don't even know where to begin" seems the only viable reaction?
Many thanks in advance.
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Posted: 20 Nov 2017 03:31 PM PST

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