Super Smash Bros - Daily Discussion Thread 05/03/17


Daily Discussion Thread 05/03/17

Posted: 03 May 2017 12:15 AM PDT

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Mang0 and Armada's Genesis 4 grand finals set was shorter than Hbox vs Chu game 5 @ Dreamhack Austin

Posted: 03 May 2017 10:58 AM PDT

Going by in game time only.

Never forget.

Edit: You documentary kids don't know the struggle. Go watch Apex 2012 Melee Grand Finals.

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Ranai confirmed for 2GGC: Greninja Saga

Posted: 03 May 2017 05:00 PM PDT

Game 5 of Hungrybox VS ChuDat from DH Austin, if sped up and had Yakety Sax playing over it

Posted: 03 May 2017 07:04 AM PDT

Warp star combos

Posted: 03 May 2017 09:58 AM PDT

"99 Ledgegrabs" followup/reply to hungrybox - The True Purpose of a Ledge Grab Limit

Posted: 03 May 2017 05:44 PM PDT

So my other thread about a ledge grab limit following hbox vs chu got kind of huge. I'd like to take the opportunity to make a reply to hungrybox's comments on the matter, which were summarized here. I suggest checking out both to get a full picture of the situation at hand.

Here's my reply to hungrybox:

 

Hungrybox, I think everybody who understands anything about melee understands that you did exactly the correct thing, well within the current ruleset, to win. Whether or not what you did was optimal, or especially whether or not what you did was exciting, is not the issue that I was trying to bring up with my ledge grab thread. The issue highlighted in the thread is that many people think that the rules should be changed.

 

I understand that people hate on you and say terrible shit, say that melee is dead, gross homophobic stuff, and so on, but this should not be used to deflect the ruleset discussion.

 

Camping is a perfectly legitimate group of tactics, and that includes camping on the ledge as jigglypuff. The Ledge Grab Limit is NOT about "camping is bad", nor is it about eliminating "boring gay stuff" from the game. The Ledge Grab Limit is also not about people hating on you - people hating on you is about people hating on you.

 

The purpose of the LGL is to define a strict and concrete line between what constitutes "camping" and what constitutes "stalling". Nothing more, nothing less.

 

 

Player hate and ruleset changes are two entirely separate issues and should not be conflated.

 

Thank you, and I hope that this is beneficial to the discussion.

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Melee Science: Why is Hungrybox the only elite Jigglypuff?

Posted: 03 May 2017 10:58 AM PDT

To Camp and Spam (A Green Eggs and Ham parody) - The Story of a Campy Player

Posted: 03 May 2017 04:36 PM PDT

http://imgur.com/a/3tUL2

Dang, that took forever! I did my best with what patience I had.

Shoutouts to nobody I guess :/ . Had to use a low-res Spirit Train, but hopefully it doesn't take away from the experience too much.

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Allied update [x-post r/smite]

Posted: 03 May 2017 10:47 AM PDT

ANTi to move to California soon

Posted: 03 May 2017 07:22 PM PDT

Umebura Japan Major registration closes at 468 entrants! Check out the full list of entrants

Posted: 03 May 2017 01:47 PM PDT

3rd biggest Smash 4 tourney of the year to date, only behind Genesis 4 and Civil War

Grey = cancelled https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1cabFGjxLvuTqauYwC-OC52g4iIGoQws0ZqATjGdDKOc/edit?usp=sharing

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Stay mad... I'LL KEEP WINNING -HUNGRYBOX opinions on Stalling - Smasha

Posted: 03 May 2017 05:44 PM PDT

KVO Japan 2017 Starting at 10AM JST Feat. aMSa, Gucci, Yu, Watch, Nanashi, Sanne and more

Posted: 03 May 2017 04:37 PM PDT

You can watch at

KVO Stream

I think finals are going to be streamed on a different channel starting from about 4 or 5 JST.

Bracket

Although this tourney has quite a few of Japan's best players, it is surprisingly short in attendance numbers, especially considering the week long holiday break Japan is on right now. A few really good players from the Nagoya area are not in attendance, notably Bitou, who is the best in the region.

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Nietono and Rain's joint Smash 4 tier list

Posted: 03 May 2017 03:24 PM PDT

Why does EG keep PPMD?

Posted: 03 May 2017 02:54 AM PDT

I get loyalty but it's been a looong time. When I see teams like G2 drop top players like OverZero (rocket league) literally days after they stop playing competitively I just don't get it

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KSB 2017! ft. MKLeo, Ranai, komorikiri, Abadango, KEN, Shuton, 9B, You3, HIKARU, Earth, ikep, Edge, & many more!

Posted: 03 May 2017 06:28 PM PDT

How to Count to 9 [with Mr. Game and Watch]

Posted: 03 May 2017 05:55 PM PDT

My school is hosting a cancer fund raiser and you can pay 25 cents to play Brawl!

Posted: 03 May 2017 12:31 PM PDT

24-hour Smash 4 marathon stream for Charity :)

Posted: 03 May 2017 01:49 PM PDT

Hi everyone! On Saturday 6th 12pm (GMT) to Sunday 12pm (GMT) we will be streaming a 24 hour Smash 4 marathon raising funds for Child.org. Which is a charity which aims to help the quality of life for children across the world.

Competitive UK Smash 4 Players such as G-P, Simperheve, Zamasu, HaWXx and Hoe4U will be on-stream participating and we are all offering donation incentives such as; being entered into a raffle to have a chance to win a Nintendo 2DS and a copy of Smash 4, have a highlight montage, artwork, or stream overlay created for you.

You can even donate to see one of the runners get hit by whipped cream or even re-enact Zero Suit Samus' taunts on-stream.

Each runner are offering their own incentives and there are a wide range to choose from. Please take a look and see if there are any donation incentives that you would like to support. The link to each individual runner's page is down below: https://child.org/me/team/may-2017-mega-smash-marathon-4

There will be two streams and both will start on Saturday 12PM (UK Time) and can be found here:

Stream 1: https://www.twitch.tv/simperheve

Stream 2: https://www.twitch.tv/sdboyz

Any form of support and donation will be immensely appreciated and we hope you will have fun watching the stream and hanging out with us. :)

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"DABUZ WATCHES MVD VS. CAPTAINZACK AND GETS MAD THAT ANYONE THINKS SMASH 4 BAYO PLANKING IS A PROBLEM" - 35 minute set analysis from Dabuz!

Posted: 03 May 2017 09:20 AM PDT

Ganondorf get's electrocuted into another dimension

Posted: 03 May 2017 03:55 PM PDT

Meet Weston Dennis Edited

Posted: 03 May 2017 02:00 PM PDT

Pools for KSB 2017 (Ft. Abadango, Komorikiri, Ranai, HIKARU, Shuton, 9B and more!) have been released!

Posted: 03 May 2017 12:05 PM PDT

Hidden Bosses to watch out for at Umebura Japan Major

Posted: 03 May 2017 07:41 PM PDT

As everyone already knows, Japan has a ton of hidden Bosses that can take sets off of top players. They are coming out on full force so here are the unknowns to watch out for.

Atelier Rosalina 2nd best Rosa in Japan. Has wins over 9B, HIKARU, Tsu, Raito, Nietono, Choco and more. Ranked 20th in Japan

Chanshu Ryu Best Ryu in Japan. Has wins over 9B, Earth, Kuro, Rain and more. Ranked 39th

Ginko Pacman Mewtwo 2nd best Pac in Japan but not to far away from Tea. Doesn't travel very much because he lives in the middle of nowhere. Has wins over Komo, Ikep, 9B, HIKARU, You3 and more. Ranked 65th in Japan

Gungnir Ganondorf This is a odd ball. Online warrior. Japanese Top players have said he's a god but he's only been to 1 event and he got DQed. There's A lot of hype around him so watch out for him.

Kept MaleVillager 2nd best Villager behind Ranai. Wins over Abadango, Nietono, HIKARU, Umeki and more. Ranked 46th in Japan.

Masha MetaKnight Japanese Brawl Falco legend. Played Shulk for a while then Switched. Hasen't been around that long. Ranked 75th

Rizeasu (Random) Yes he plays almost everything and he's ranked 23rd

YOC FemaleCorrin Best Corrin Main in Japan but inactive because of IRL problems. Ranked 80th in Japan.

Japanese Cloud 's No, Komo is not the only one. There are 4 Clouds that can name (Masashi,Mao,Mangaliza, Mattun,) That can cause Big upsets. They are Ranked 38th, 73rd, 54th and 62nd respectively.

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Traits of Melee's movement, which ones do you guys like the most?

Posted: 03 May 2017 01:56 PM PDT

Hello everyone, I'm a cs student interested in game design and I want to do homage to one of my favorite games. With a lot of platform brawlers coming out or already available (wavedash, rivals, etc) I'm making an effort to stand out more and because of that I want to try and capture just a few key things that make melee that game that it is.

With that out of the way, the question I want to ask everyone is what about the movement in melee makes it so great in your opinion? What are things you'd want changed? For example, in melee you can only fastfall once your jump reaches the peak, do you think this hinders potential highlevel movement? Or maybe do you think that you should have free movement (or more freedom) in the air? Or do you think these limitations are what make the game challenging? Please let me know what you think as I'll be considering any feedback

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Amazing zero-to-death R.O.B. combo by WaDi

Posted: 02 May 2017 10:00 PM PDT

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