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Dota 2 - ZOTAC Cup Masters Day 1 Match Discussion

ZOTAC Cup Masters Day 1 Match Discussion

Posted: 29 May 2017 04:40 PM PDT

ZOTAC Cup Masters

Organized by ZOTAC, ESL and BATTLEFY

Need info on the event? Check out the Survival Guide

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Streams:

Day 1: 30 May

ID Team 1 vs. Team 2 Result Cntdwn PDT EDT BST CEST SGT AEST
- - - - - - - - - - - -
QF-A1 vs. 11:00 20:00 23:00 04:00 05:00 11:00 13:00
QF-A2 vs. 12:15 21:15 00:15 05:15 06:15 12:15 14:15
SF-A vs. 13:30 22:30 01:30 06:30 07:30 13:30 15:30
QF-B1 vs. SNG 14:45 23:45 02:45 07:45 08:45 14:45 16:45
QF-B2 vs. Danish Bears 16:00 01:00 04:00 09:00 10:00 16:00 18:00

Quarterfinals A1: Newbee vs Digital Chaos

Game 1 Winner:

Result:   1:0  

VODs: [Game 1]

Quarterfinals A2: IG Vitality vs WarriorsGaming.Unity

Game 1 Winner:

Result:   1:0  

VODs: [Game 1]

Semifinals A: vs

Game 1 Winner:

Result:   1:0  

VODs: [Game 1]

Quarterfinals B1: Team NP vs Singularity

Game 1 Winner:

Result:   1:0  

VODs: [Game 1]

Quarterfinals B2: Fnatic vs Danish Bears

Game 1 Winner:

Result:   1:0  

VODs: [Game 1]

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Riki casts "Sprout" on Lone Druid

Posted: 30 May 2017 03:47 AM PDT

How to beat the system.

Posted: 30 May 2017 06:01 AM PDT

Have you ever tped out of a glimpse?

Posted: 30 May 2017 08:40 AM PDT

An 8387 average mmr game!

Posted: 30 May 2017 05:52 AM PDT

LD: To bring back 3rd party events, bring back crowdfunding and embed tournaments directly in Dota

Posted: 29 May 2017 09:38 PM PDT

QoL suggestion for Invoker

Posted: 30 May 2017 05:08 AM PDT

Siltbreaker delayed

Posted: 29 May 2017 04:46 PM PDT

PSA: The killfeed has a scrollbar

Posted: 29 May 2017 05:46 PM PDT

OK can we all talk about the giant porcupine in the room?

Posted: 30 May 2017 03:20 AM PDT

Why is Bristle Back unkillable in this 7.06c?

Solar crest and Crimson.

Then take your pick: Shivas....Heart...tears of your enemies...

Walks around and is unkillable like never before and everyone is spamming him now.

How is this balanced? /Loda rant

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From someone who owns a 2k compendium, would it be possible to get a feature to hide my levels?

Posted: 30 May 2017 02:03 AM PDT

TL;DR 2k compendium owner is a little baby that can't handle trashtalk. Plez fix volvo. Can i hez fix volvo?

-Begin Rant-

I've had my compendium above 2k for about a month now, and sometimes i just regret it. Not because of the money I spent, but because of the amazingly ridiculous attitudes I've gotten from a majority of people.

"Rich but noob", "Money but brainless", "gift me io arcana pl0x!", "wtf rich kid? Why waste money on game?" Are just some of the more common things I've gotten from the enemy team whenever they win the game.

I can handle trashtalk as much as the next guy, but when it's specifically targetted at me because I supported something I enjoy, it starts to feel extremely bad. To the point I legitimately wish I could hide my compendium level.

Yes I have the additional disposable income, no I never said I was better than you, and no, I will not gift you the io arcana.

-End Rant-

So I definitely don't expect the Dota2 community to instantly change over night. But it would be real nice If I had an option to hide my levels.

-EDIT- For the people asking, it took me about 930usd to get to 2.25k compendium.

-EDIT 2- Yes, I play on the SEA server.

-EDIT 3- TIL, I have alot of lost brothers. ( ͡°( ͡° ͜Ê–( ͡° ͜Ê– ͡°)Ê– ͡°) ͡°)

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You can lock diffusal from combining and purchase the upgrade recipe - why did I never think of that

Posted: 29 May 2017 09:08 PM PDT

DreamLeague PM: "When 2GD, Bruno, Draskyl and all the others started out as talent it was quite wild sometimes"

Posted: 30 May 2017 04:26 AM PDT

anyone out there who likes luna's accent?

Posted: 29 May 2017 10:28 PM PDT

i see a lot of people say that they hate while its one of the things i love about this hero

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Ohaiyo getting pushed around

Posted: 30 May 2017 03:36 AM PDT

"Spectate Game" button has been mislabeled as "Request to join party" for like a year

Posted: 29 May 2017 08:14 PM PDT

Please ban D2Bingo.

Posted: 29 May 2017 04:20 PM PDT

Come on Valve, these guys are allowed to spam regional chats 24/7 for several months. Just start banning these people already. Inb4 people telling me they will use things like D2Bingo(dot)com etc. I'm sure Valve is smart enough to figure a solution to those things. But at the very least they can start with banning just that word. I'm getting tilted having to ignore 10 people every hour

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MSS Ravage Timing

Posted: 30 May 2017 01:57 AM PDT

A message from Erik Johnson regarding Siltbreaker delay.

Posted: 30 May 2017 11:23 AM PDT

Yesterday I emailed valve about our dissapointment in siltbreaker being delayed, this is the reply I got:

"When you set out to build a product that has a lot of invention to it (new game design, new art concepts, new player experiences, etc.) you either have a foggy idea about what the final product is going to be, or you have a clear idea that you end up course correcting as you build it. At some point along the way you need to let people know what is coming, so you set a date.

Near the end of production you've solved a bunch of problems that you didn't even know existed when you started, and you've also spent a huge amount of time trying to zero in on the hardest part to schedule, which is actually producing fun gameplay. We haven't found a good substitute for getting there other than just playing the same thing over and over again, iterating on what is working, and cutting the parts that fail to. It's really hard to guess how long this part of the process is going to take.

The final part of a game project, which we're at now, is the best part. Virtually everything has been well tested, features are all mature and stable, and the high level idea on what is fun is well defined and built. What this also means is that you're unlikely to have any wasted energy if you keep working on things for a few more days. In fact, on many projects the most interesting things are built at the very end once all of the surrounding constraints have been set.

We think waiting a few more days to do the work that we know will make it a lot more fun to play is a good tradeoff, but we know this is disappointing to people. Like everything, it's a trade-off, but we think it is the right one.

Hopefully this is interesting for you. Let me know what you think once Siltbreaker ships and you've played it.

Erik"

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BUG: Viper, Huskar, Silencer and Clinkz have lower range when orb attacking than normally.

Posted: 29 May 2017 02:57 PM PDT

I reported this more than 5 months ago, posted it in the dota 2 dev forum and Valve didn't do anything about it. Maybe it will make it to the first page this time so that Valve devs see it and do something about it.

All these heroes have bugs related to their relative talent trees. The bugs occur when they pick dragon lance and skill their range increasing talents. Right clicking gives them the correct attack range, but if you want to orb attack (orb auto cast is off), then the attack range is lower.

Viper

Silencer

Clinkz

Huskar

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What's happening with TI7 Short Film Contest?

Posted: 30 May 2017 01:41 AM PDT

TI5 SFC - announced on May 22, 2015

TI6 SFC - announced on May 20, 2016

TI7 SFC - ??? (it's May 30 already)

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Calibrated at 600 mmr, now i make it to the 3k mmr (Most people think its nothing but its meant a lot to me)

Posted: 30 May 2017 07:21 AM PDT

A friend asked "wtf is jungling?" - this was the best answer I could find.

Posted: 30 May 2017 05:21 AM PDT

Info-graph for The Manila Masters 2017

Posted: 29 May 2017 04:43 PM PDT

As a Brazilian who has been investing money on DOTA 2 local teams for almost 5 years, I have one simple request.

Posted: 29 May 2017 12:56 PM PDT

TLDR: Tournament organisers, just make Brazil x Peru to be played on SA thx bye

Hi redditors,

I am a Brazilian eSport lover, who has devoted a lot of his time and money to try to nurture the Brazilian eSports scene, i am pretty excited with the recent performance of SG on Major, but I believe it is time to raise some issues that are holding our scene to grow and are of easy and FAIR solution.

Facts:

Brazilian Results:

Midas on US East server 4-8 x SA teams 10-16 x NA teams

Midas on SA 9-4 x SA teams 1-0 x NA teams

SG on NA 1-13 x NA teams

SG on SA 11-4 x SA teams 3-0 x NA teams

Here as you can see the ping really determines the results. Midas has still ok results against NA teams for playing Tier 2 tournaments, but you can see that they do have bad results against peruvian teams on NA and playing the same teams on SA they have good results. Notice SG has only won a single match out of 14 on NA and never lost a match against a North American team on SA server.

Ping

Ping on NA: NA : <50 Peru : 80 Brazil : 100 ~ 230

Ping on SA: Brazil : <50 Peru : 80 NA : 100 ~ 230

The ping goes from 100 to 230, usually people think that SA teams get better ping on NA than NA on SA, thus making a SA/NA/coinflip match unfair. This is not true, the ping goes higher on SA teams the more south it goes, which means teams located in São Paulo, Rio, where the high concentration of people are get higher pings (around 200) and you can get around 100 by living on the very Northeast. The opposite goes for NA, the closer to North you are the worst is the ping, so you would get the 200 being in Canada.

The most interesting part is that Peruvians get same ping on SA and NA! Thus making no Sense to force Brazilians to play NA against them and having terrible ping instead of having good ping on SA and Peruvians having exactly the same ping.

(col x Midas had an avg of 150 col on SA and 180 Midas on NA, sg x np had an avg of 130 of SG on NA and 170 of NP on SA). SG currently has a gaming house on the very northeast of BR to try to solve this problem, which is very expensive solution and also does not mean that the players are there all the time, so this can vary a lot.

Here also I would be glad if you take your time to comment where you from and which ping you get to US East/South America.

Possible Scenarios

Play all games on NA servers, no matter the teams:

This is the currently situation on 95% of tournaments. It is not fair at all, and not long term oriented, the quality of matches between SA x NA tend to be terrible.

Play games versus Peruvian teams on SA :

This would solve already a big part of the problem, taking in consideration that now most North America Qualifiers have like 50% of teams from South America. It is still far away from fair and not long term oriented, at least you get to see a bit of better matches.

Play games versus NA teams on NA/SA/NA :

This was adopted at The Summit. Was fun to see SG going 100% on games versus North American teams on SA server, where basically the NA teams played on the same conditions SG players have been playing for the last 7 years. It is a bit more fair, not so long term oriented but you do see better matches already.

Play games versus NA teams on NA/SA/coinflip

This was suggested on many tournaments but never made true. Would be a bit more fair, bit better matches than the last option.

South American and North American Qualifiers, play each other on finals.

This is becoming more possible now that basically 50% of the NA scene is SA, would have lots of matches that are way more fair and better quality, where both team play without any handicap and just on final its a bit unfair because you go back to the last solution.

Have a South American Qualifier

For sure this is the best solution on fairness, long term and game qualities.

I know it is not easy to jump from current status to the best case scenario, but I would love to see we walking this ladder towards fairness, by AT LEAST playing against Peruvian teams on South America server where they get exactly the same ping (Mandy posted Screenshot from Infamous gaming house, exactly same ping) and we have a playable ping.

Oh, of course there are gonna be people saying that we should be happy to be allowed to play North American qualifiers, which indeed we are, but them we go back to the two worst case scenarios:

  1. Not having Brazilian teams on NA qualifiers and thus losing a lot of public
  2. Forcing Brazilian teams to go to another countries and having a fucked up eSports scene scenario, where for example you have SK gaming using the North American spot on tournaments and carrying the German flag on tournaments with only Brazilian players. Thus making Germans not supporting at all the organization, the North American teams wanting to boycott the team and the players being far away from home and their public the entire year.

Just to make clear, I do repeat that I am pretty happy to see how our scene has evolved and my first suggestion is that we can still play on North American servers against their teams, if we have the opportunity to play one SA match against them its really great. But please take the obvious, fair and free solution of forcing Peru x Brazil in South America

thank you so much and #gomidas #GOSG

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Epicenter RU vs EN Talent All-Start Game

Posted: 30 May 2017 06:50 AM PDT

As Epicenter is getting closer, Reddit community (as the most influential one) should hype and ask organizers to come up with an all-star game between RU and EN talent teams. Ru talent team has been already announced and their roster looks decent!

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DBEEH-zXUAA63gl.jpg

Potential RU roster should be @Inmateoo - 1/2 @JustXBOCT - 1/2 @DreadiSbaCk - 3 @just_NS - 4/5 @arsartdota - 4/5 @ArturFissura - coach!

So, all we have to do is to wait for an EN team to be announced and to see if a potential game could actually happen. I bet we will have tons of fun spectating it!

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