Dota 2 - The Post-Kiev Major Shuffle: Drop Period


The Post-Kiev Major Shuffle: Drop Period

Posted: 02 May 2017 07:44 PM PDT

Basic Roster Lock Information

Drop Deadline: May 16, 2017 @ 12:00 AM PDT
Add Deadline: May 24, 2017 @ 12:00 AM PDT

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Many thanks to Liquipedia, Twitter, various Dota personalities, the /r/Dota2 community, and many others for their help in making this thread.


Last updated on May 3, 2017 @ 10:44 AM PDT.

Timeline

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Date Team Change/Rumor Source
May 03 Freedom Timado and Jubei leave Team Freedom Roster Lock
May 02 TS Team Singularity announces their Polish Dota 2 roster. Redbull
May 02 MC Midas Club announces that NedBone will be joining as support. MC Facebook
May 02 EG Cr1t- announces that EG will be staying together. Cr1t- Clip [R]
May 01 Random Jack states that Random (ex-Wings) may have disbanded. Jack's Tweet [R]
May 01 WG.U WG.U announces that Ahjit's and Ahfu's departure. WG.U Facebook
Apr 23 CoL compLexity Gaming announces Monkeys's and 747's departure. coL Official
Apr 20 Na'vi Na'vi announces that SoNNeikO will replace rmN-. Na'vi Official
Apr 17 B)ears Forev confirms that B)ears has disbanded. Forev Chat [R]
Apr 08 LFY DDC joins LGD.Forever Young. Weibo
Apr 08 VG ChuaN replaces DDC in Vici Gaming. Roster Lock [R]
Apr 06 NP MSS states that EE will move to carry & Aui will move to support. MSS Clip [R]
Apr 06 NP 1437 announces that he and SVG have been kicked from NP. 1437's video [R]
May 26 Freedom Team Freedom announces that they will go on hiatus. Freedom Tweet

China

Team 1 2 3 4 5
Team Random shadow bLink Faith_bian y' iceice
LGD.Forever Young Monet Super Jixing +DDC White lpc
Vici Gaming END Ori Yang Hym +ChuaN DDC

Europe

Team 1 2 3 4 5
B)ears Feero Fata Forev YapzOr 343
Na'vi Pajkatt Dendi GeneRaL +SoNNeikO rmN- Biver
Team Singularity Exotic_Deer Nisha Patos eL lisasH kacor

North America

Team 1 2 3 4 5
compLexity Gaming Moo 747 monkeys Zfreek melonzz
Evil Geniuses Arteezy SumaiL UNiVeRsE Zai Cr1t-
Team Freedom BSJ Timado ixmike88 Jubei Eagle
NP EE --- MSS Aui_2000 1437 SVG

South America

Team 1 2 3 4 5
Midas Club FuckinEh Sooths Liposa Bardo Nedbone

SEA

Team 1 2 3 4 5
WarriorsGaming.Unity Ahjit Nana KaNG Ahfu xNova-
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According to his Lore, Sven is half Meranth (aquatic race like Sladar), so I made a Meranth Dragoon set for him, enjoy!

Posted: 02 May 2017 10:32 PM PDT

PSA: MMR is SKILL RATING system and not a REWARD/PUNISHMENT system.

Posted: 03 May 2017 05:46 AM PDT

I just came across this post now and many posts have come up before with comments suggesting "PUNISHMENT" for intentional feeding based on MMR.

For fuck sake, try to understand that MMR is supposed to be and is a measure of SKILL and not a REWARD based system. If a 7k MMR player is "PUNISHED" by making him be only 2k MMR, it doesn't even matter to the guy in the long run. His ingame MMR might have been slashed off. But for god sake, he is still a 7k MMR player by skill and he had got there. That is where he belongs. It will just be a matter of time until he climbs back to his actual MMR by stomping scrubs on the way ruining games for that skill bracket.

This is why a 2k account buyer eventually drops to 2k, whatever MMR account he may buy, and why a 7k player eventually ends up at 7k even if he starts at 1 MMR.

MMR IS NOT AN INCENTIVE.

IT IS A RATING OF HOW RELATIVELY GOOD YOU ARE AT THE GAME WITH RESPECT TO OTHER PEOPLE PLAYING THE GAME.

STOP SUGGESTING MMR AS REWARD OR PUNISHMENT

P.S: Sorry if it seemed to be a rant. It just felt out of place that too many people think MMR as a REWARD SYSTEM.

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Public apology to the DOTA 2 community

Posted: 02 May 2017 09:51 PM PDT

Hello everyone,

As producer and showrunner, I want to apologize on behalf of PGL for airing the clip that closed the broadcast of the Kiev Major.

A lot of people were disappointed and the high expectations set for us were not met. We let you down, and the clip does not reflect PGL's values, team diversity or broadcast philosophy.

We have the utmost respect for the Dota 2 community and, going forward, the video production workflow will be improved with additional checks and quality filters to ensure that mistakes like this will not happen again.

Everything we do is for the community and your feedback is and always will be very important to us.

Thank you for helping us do better next time.

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[THEORY] TI7! The 4th Spirit! The 4th Attribute?

Posted: 03 May 2017 05:41 AM PDT

So as TI7 fast approaches I thought I'd drop in my own theory about the next hero.

So as we know, the hero teased HERE in the Monkey King Arcana comic, is the most likely for the release. This would make the next hero the 4th Elemental Spirit. This theory is also reinforced by the voice line "I've seen Xin and Kaolin. Where's your other brother?".

But who are the spirits? Well, as seen in the Lore of both Ember Spirit and Storm Spirit, they were ordinary people who gained the power of a Celestial, a being attuned with a specific element, through some means. This can also been seen in Brewmaster, as his Father was a Celestial, and he has the power to split into 3 elements.

So lets run with this notion that the next hero is in fact the 4th Spirit, what element would he be? The most logical answer to this is Water/Sea/Ocean, and this for 2 reason. Reason 1: We currently have 3 elements of what would be considered the base 4. Ember=Fire, Storm=Wind, Earth=Earth, ?=Water. Reason 2: TI7's theme is Aquatic this can be seen in THIS image for the TI7 ticket sales, THIS blog post, and THIS picture.

But hand on a second, aren't each of the spirits assigned to a particular Attribute in Dota? What would the 4th Spirit be? This is when things get a little crazy!

As we were fast approaching the reveal of patch 7.00 and Monkey King, 4chan had posted 'leaks' about the 7.00 update (unfortunately I can not find any images of said leaks so your just going to have to trust me on this). Contained within said leaks were Monkey King, the addition of talents and the most far fetched of all; a 4th Attribute. Now for the sake of keeping things simple lets call this possible new attribute 'Mystic' and assign it the colour purple (I get to why soon).

So Mystic. What does it do? Why choose purple? Who is a Mystic hero? What effects does this have on Dota?

Let's first start with the colour. As explained in /u/SirActionSlacks- 's video LoreGasm 1: A Collection of Colors-The Theory of the Third Ancient, colour has a significant role in the Dotaverse with the 5 key colours being Blue=Radiant, Red=Dire, Green=Nether, Yellow=World, and Purple=Mystery. Also, the 4th Spirit is shown to be purple in the Monkey King Arcana comic.

So what would Mystic do? Well currently in Dota, each Attribute has properties associated with it. These being, Strength= HP and HP Regen, Agility= Attack Speed and Armor, and Intelligence= Mana, Mana Regen and Spell Amp; with Magic Resistance and Movement Speed not being tied to anything. As you can see from this STR and AGI are both linked to 2 properties with INT being liked to 3. My theory of what Mystic could be, is Spell Amp and Magic Resistance (or a new term Cloak, if changed from a % value to a numerical one to mirror armor). This would give 2 properties associated with each Attribute and leave only Movement Speed as the independent property.

Now for the effect this would have on Dota. This would be the single biggest fundamental change in Dota history. Far outreaching the effects of 7.00 and the talent systems. Briefly touching on some of these;
1st (Heroes): Currently all Heroes are sorted into the category of the 3 Attributes, meaning some Heroes would be moved from their current Attribute into a the new Mystic category.

2nd (Items): New items would have to be added to have the Mystic Attribute and some existing items would possibly switch to Mystic. E.g. of current items being affected would be be Power Treads with Tread Switching (have to cycle 4 instead of 3), Agh's (is currently made of the 3 Attributes, would have to change to 4) etc.

3rd (Skills): There are a few skills in Dota that interact with others that would be affected. E.g. Essence Shift steals 1 from each attribute and gives Slark 3 AGI (this would change to 4 AGI using the current model), Primal Split currently splits Brewmaster into 3 elements, the current 3 spirits (would possibly have to become 4).

4th (Balance): Adding Mystic would add huge amount of room for balance. As I said earlier, if it controls Spell Amp and Magic Resistance/Cloak then it would be another method of balancing Heroes and items. E.g. Terrorblade could start with 12 Armor have great AGI gain but on start with 0 Cloak and have poor Mystic. It could also allow Heroes that are reliant on Spells to have an easier way to beef them up(this is assuming that the %Spell Amp/Mystic is better than the current with INT).

Anyway, that's my theory on on the next Hero and a possibility of the 4th Attribute.

Thanks for reading, I hope you enjoyed.

TL;DR The 4th Hero revealed at TI7 will be the purple Water/Sea/Ocean Spirit. There is a possibility that he is assigned to a new Attribute, Mytsic, which is Purple and controls Spell Amp and reworked Magic Resistance called Cloak.

ORRRRRRRRRRRRRRR I'm totally wrong and the next hero is Ilexa.

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I miss the feature of seeing who placed your wards. Am I the only one?

Posted: 03 May 2017 05:42 AM PDT

As a support hero I often find it annoying that valve removed this feature for no apparent reason. Am I the only one?

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ramzes666 crazy fountain haunt

Posted: 03 May 2017 04:57 AM PDT

Dota 2 tutorial still shows the old map layout. Volvo pls fix.

Posted: 03 May 2017 04:01 AM PDT

It finally happened boys!

Posted: 03 May 2017 08:54 AM PDT

EPICENTER: invite #3

Posted: 03 May 2017 06:09 AM PDT

True sight season 2 features OG and VP.

Posted: 03 May 2017 10:29 AM PDT

4th Spirit Element is...

Posted: 03 May 2017 09:16 AM PDT

ICE Well, as we all know, Ember, Storm, and Earth Spirit are three ordinary brothers imbued with the power of Celestials, thereby granting them affinity with a chosen element. Check out the dota gamepedia page: here!
and you'll see the following line:

The Celestials are attuned to different elements such as fire, ice, earth, and lightning.

So is it possible that the 4th spirit brother's element is ice? Maybe the reason why he's not yet here is because he's encased in a tomb of ice? Waiting for summer to thaw him out into another element, which is water? Maybe I'm just shit-posting here, but why would they put ice in there, along with the three confirmed elements of fire, earth, and lightning?

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I heard you guys like mermaids... okay maybe not, but still.

Posted: 03 May 2017 10:18 AM PDT

[50/50] Envy fucks up hard and dies / Envy fucks up hard and lives

Posted: 02 May 2017 07:33 PM PDT

We need a more customizable player profile

Posted: 02 May 2017 10:40 PM PDT

In its current state, the player profile is very bland. We can only showcase up to 3 items/heroes plus 2 statistics and the play style and activity feed sections are unattractive. Along with a background that only comes in grey, I can't imagine a whole lot of people invested in their profile.

Instead I think our player profiles should be more like our steam profiles. We could have background skins and customizable profile sections. Instead of forcing everyone to show their playstyle pentagon and activity feed, give us a wide variety of sections and allow us to choose which ones we want on our profiles. Have level up rewards that give us, for example, increased profile space so that we can showcase more sections. This would not only make us more invested in our profiles, it would also motivate us to play the game. Valve can even profit from this by selling profile borders/backgrounds/showcases/general profile cosmetics. Maybe have certain profile features only unlockable by completing in-game achievements. Community artists could create said cosmetics which could potentially further engage the community. There could even be a direct comments section (this might have to be carefully implemented to avoid toxicity). These are just a few examples of things that can be done to make our profile page more appealing.

There's a lot of potential in the player profile and I believe that neglecting it may be part of the reason for the declining playerbase. Right now, nobody is spending any time revamping their profiles or unlocking badges simply because with limited customization, there's no point.

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To control the remnant, you must first become the remnant

Posted: 02 May 2017 11:43 PM PDT

What the hell is wrong with people

Posted: 02 May 2017 06:37 PM PDT

MidOne just streamed for quite a while. Pretty good dota too.

Every fucking ten minutes, some fetus would donate and give him the RTZ treatment.

"It seems you're sucking right now like you did in the major L O L maybe if you only won against s g s g s g s g s g s g s g s g s g s g s g s g s g s g s g s g...."

EVERY. FUCKING. TEN. MINUTES. You know the drill. I know /r/dota2 isn't a place for rants, and this is no exception. But sweet fucking christ in a sidecar can anyone show a fucking shred of humanity?

Yeah sure its twitch chat whatever but good god what is happening to the world

Go ahead, fuck my karma up. I'm not removing this.

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Literally Unplayable

Posted: 03 May 2017 01:36 AM PDT

Cr1t- roasts Reddit with the TRUTH

Posted: 03 May 2017 08:40 AM PDT

'Dota 2' Owes Its Success to Fans, Not Investors and Owners, and That's Okay (Vice Article)

Posted: 02 May 2017 01:40 PM PDT

Kiev Major Girls

Posted: 02 May 2017 09:08 PM PDT

BSJ just had a game where his team won a team fight, but his Ember buys back and drops his items and feed to the enemy TA.

Posted: 02 May 2017 09:33 PM PDT

This is why this region is becoming one of the worst. What is with NA Dota players with super high ego's and mental tolerance of a 5 year old? That's not just BSJ games, EE tweeted earlier his first NA game today was someone raging and walking down mid. I'm tired of the people in this region give up so fucking easily.

Edit: Oh yeah the Ember is 747. Great player!

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Dota 2 Test 4.0 GB update?

Posted: 03 May 2017 10:55 AM PDT

Anyone else? What is this? 4.0 GB. Update started 11:16 IST.

Edit: Seems like nobody else has received any updates, probably a bug at my end. Sorry if this is fake hype :(

Edit 2: RIP hype boys, seems like a false alarm. FeelsBadMan

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If Esports Explodes, Does Dota 2 Care?

Posted: 03 May 2017 11:31 AM PDT

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