CS:GO - Newbie Thursday (4th of May, 2017) - Your weekly questions thread

Newbie Thursday (4th of May, 2017) - Your weekly questions thread
CS:GO Star Wars
Ever wondered why the new Inferno / Nuke have such shitty performance? Likely because Hidden Path / Valve broke LOD and they have no intention to fix it
DeKay: "Sucks that PGL chose to place the minor qualifier on the same day as the ESEA LAN. NA teams would get a 1 yr ban from ESEA if they back out"
SPLYCE Drone on Twitter: "So @pglesports wont change the date that overlaps MDL lan, and they refuse to let us play from London as well. cool"
Cloud9's swag on the #FreeBrax movement: 'Do I think it will change anything? Probably not'
C9 wins 13 second pistol round
Would any pro player/analyst/commentator/whatever be able to do an interview with me for my school publication? I would love to do an article on e-sports
Maikeleles new team got cleaned up by Serbian team on minor qualifications
WalleN is back, boys.
North vs Chiefs eSports Club / IEM Sydney 2017 - Round 4 / Post-Match Discussion
rain with a 94 % HS rate against Optic (17/18)
Introducing CLG Academy: CS:GO
random pugger destroys rank s gamers in pug
GamerZ: What did he just say?
Astralis sportpsychologist: "Our players have received death threats"
Anders wrecking on pistol round
Hazed vs Ins
GODSENT vs Team Dignitas / ECS Season 3: Week 3 / Post-Match Discussion
Cloud9 vs Ghost Gaming / ECS Season 3: Week 3 / Post-Match Discussion
ESL not enforcing their rules properly.
Just noticed this cute little joke in the Rising Sun collection
seized: "swiss format for 8 teams looks so terrible, hopefully other tournaments will never do the same"
Maikele & Pyth team just lost in PGL qualifier
NAF with the disrespect + nice shot at end
Gla1ve doesn't know what a Glaive is

Newbie Thursday (4th of May, 2017) - Your weekly questions thread

Posted: 03 May 2017 10:10 PM PDT

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CS:GO Star Wars

Posted: 04 May 2017 08:52 AM PDT

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Ever wondered why the new Inferno / Nuke have such shitty performance? Likely because Hidden Path / Valve broke LOD and they have no intention to fix it

Posted: 04 May 2017 04:02 PM PDT

I just found about this and would like to share for those unaware, apparently CS:GO does not support LOD.

What is LOD? Level of Detail allows models in the game to switch to a lower-/higher poly version of a model depending on your distance to it. This (normally) is a standard feature of the Source engine, but alongside a lot of other things that used to work in Source / early CS:GO days it has been broken in the meanwhile with no fix in sight.

Note: CS:GO currently does not support LOD. As a result, $lod should be avoided in custom models for CS:GO.

Fine, but how does this cause low FPS?

Well, let me show you. With their "HD" remakes of older maps, Valve seems to love taking the route of making a lot of things as models as opposed to normal brushwork. This in itself already decreases FPS by a ton as models are way harder to render than brushes are.

Example: The new Inferno. I guess i am not the only one whose FPS absolutely plummet in 2nd mid. I've decompiled inferno and stripped away everything but models, here's a screenshot: http://i.imgur.com/7xR5xBN.png

As you can see, yes that indeed is quite a lot of models, 6330 to be exact, most of them are just there for plain looks / because they are "prettier" than their worldbrush counterparts. On the new nuke theres even more. As a reference, the entirety of cache cointains just about 950 models. Even freaking cobblestone, a map even larger than Inferno (?) contains just about 1320 models.

Granted, not all of them are rendered at once thanks to basic optimizazion, fade distances and the like, but those that are rendered are likely always rendered with a unnecessary Level of detail, which in terms brings me back to the original reason i am writing this up.

TL;DR CS:GO is missing a pretty basic but important optimization feature that, correcly applied, can yield more FPS on the new "fancy" maps. Valve, please fix.

Edit: I've compiled a custom version of the new Inferno as a practical example. All i've done is deleting all of the models out of the map ignoring any visual bugs caused as a result, simply leaving in just world brushes to practially demonstrate how much of the detail in the map is resulting from models. I've also not compiled lighting as that would take ages and im not really interested to do that to have an example. ~~Download: http://www.mediafire.com/file/lxzbz46hny8b4z6/de_inferno_nomodels.zip~~

Keep in mind that i had to strip away some optimization done which broke in the process of decompiling the map. Also the performance you'll see in that map is nothing near what you would get if said issue was fixed, its just to show off how much detail really is achieved from models.

Edit2: You can just use sv_cheats 1 and r_drawstaticprops 0 to hide all props on any map.

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DeKay: "Sucks that PGL chose to place the minor qualifier on the same day as the ESEA LAN. NA teams would get a 1 yr ban from ESEA if they back out"

Posted: 04 May 2017 02:49 PM PDT

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SPLYCE Drone on Twitter: "So @pglesports wont change the date that overlaps MDL lan, and they refuse to let us play from London as well. cool"

Posted: 04 May 2017 02:47 PM PDT

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Cloud9's swag on the #FreeBrax movement: 'Do I think it will change anything? Probably not'

Posted: 04 May 2017 08:13 AM PDT

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C9 wins 13 second pistol round

Posted: 04 May 2017 05:29 PM PDT

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Would any pro player/analyst/commentator/whatever be able to do an interview with me for my school publication? I would love to do an article on e-sports

Posted: 04 May 2017 09:42 AM PDT

I've seen stuff like this work on here before and I would really love it if a pro player or someone related to the pro scene could help give an insight into their life and into e-sports. The interview could be done through e-mail, twitter, a skype call, or anything else. I understand this may be a long shot but I'm hoping that someone will have the time to help me out. If not, I completely understand. Thanks!

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Maikeleles new team got cleaned up by Serbian team on minor qualifications

Posted: 04 May 2017 10:53 AM PDT