Dota 2 - March 2 Competitive Matches - CIS


March 2 Competitive Matches - CIS

Posted: 02 Mar 2018 07:46 AM PST

Epicenter XL - CIS Qualifier

  • 4 teams directly invited
    • Team Empire
    • Team Spirit
    • Vega Squadron
    • Gambit Esports
  • 4 teams qualify through the Open Qualifier.

    • Effect
    • SFTe-sports
    • Team Kazakhstan
    • FlytoMoon
  • Group Stage:

    • Eight teams are divided into two groups of four teams each where they play in a double-elimination (GSL) format.
    • All matches are played in a Bo3.
    • The top two teams from each group advance to the playoffs.
  • Playoffs:

    • Four teams play in a single-elimination bracket.
    • All matches are played in a Bo3.
    • Winner qualifies for Epicenter XL (Major).
  • Coverage: Liquipedia

  • Streams: English 1


Rosters

Effect: iLTW, Afoninje, AfterLife, KingR, Maden, Coach: ArsZeeqq

FlytoMoon: Silent, Iceberg, nongrata, NoFear, ALWAYSWANNAFLY

Team Empire: Nix, fn, Ghostik, yoky-, Miposhka, Coach: JotM


Schedule

ID Team vs Team Result Cntdwn (CET) PST EST GMT SGT BEDT Stream
WF vs FTM 16:00 7:00 10:00 15:00 23:00 2:00 EP1

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You don't deserve DotA

Posted: 01 Mar 2018 07:46 PM PST

All these entitled whiny punks on reddit don't know how great this game is. Always complaining about the lack of content and how delayed battlepass, arcana, or some other bullshit is. People on here daily saying that the game is boring and there's nothing to do. What the fuck are you expecting to do other than play dota? Why are you starting up dota to jerk your dick to a new crystal maiden skin? If you want to do quests go play WoW. The happiest these fucks have been in the last year is when you could see QoPs tits take up half the fucking screen on your profile page. Why are you even playing this game?

Like seriously, I cringe every time I read something like "there isn't anything to do in this game anymore, that's why it's dying". Just the other day I was down at the local bball court and people were like "man there's nothing to do here anymore, I need some incentive to play pickup games." Nah, just kidding that didn't happen, they're there to play fucking basketball not whine about how nike announced that they'd release a michael jordan arcana 204 days ago. They're there to ball, blow off steam, fucking school some kids.

That's the same reason 95% of us play dota. We just wanna style on some mother fuckers, pull off some cool moves, and get completely absorbed in a fun ass game. Balance changes don't affect us much at all. 99% of you bitches will continue to do the exact same things you did before a patch with zero thought as to how it impacts your ability to win. Yet you go on reddit like you're some fucking godlike analyst saying how we have shit patches and balance changes that make no sense. None of you have any fucking clue what you're talking about.

Back in my day you had to install a third party program to fake a lan game just to get something that resembled a decent match. And even then you'd get a leaver like 25% of the time. But you know what, we put up with it. Because we loved playing dota. Now all people want is for Valve to cash in on the community's creation and waste time on shit like cosmetics and quests. Yeah, fuck that. Go play league if you want to shell out 10% of your measly peon income every month for cartoon tits and cringy cosmetics. The rest of us will be enjoying the masterpiece that is dota 2.

So please, kindly fuck off with your asinine suggestions and stop asking for things that are at best tangential to the dota experience and at worst detrimental to its core. Go to an art museum if you want some cosmetics. Get a job if you want some quests. Play dota if you want to play some fucking dota. I know that's what I'll be doing.

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Pure genius talents

Posted: 02 Mar 2018 06:04 AM PST

The difference between r/csgo and r/dota2

Posted: 02 Mar 2018 06:43 AM PST

r/csgo is like: volvo why do you give me hats all the time, give me a real patch finally, the game is unplayable, csgo is dying
meanwhile on r/dota2: get the fuck out with those patches, GIVE ME BATTLE PASS AND HATS AND TAKE MY MONEYY

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From a New Player -

Posted: 02 Mar 2018 05:44 AM PST

Before I start off this post, from the bottom of my heart I really want to thank all of you. I know this sub has it's ups and downs, but thank you all for helping my get my footing in this wonderful game.

Last month was not the best for me. I found out that my job was closing down. My son was sick and in the hospital with pneumonia. My wife and I were so stressed that she left the house to stay with her parents so we both could have some alone time from each other and re-center of sorts. I had never felt so alone in my entire life. I felt like everything was crumbling around me and all I could do was watch it happen. I decided to hop on to Reddit for a bit of a distraction, and wound up here. I'd played DOTA a little bit when it came out while I was stationed in Korea, but not a whole lot since then up until a couple weeks ago. I started looking through some of the posts on here, and decided to redownload the game. Hopping into a few bot matches to relearn the game and grab my favorite character (Slark). I decided to pour through the new player posts as well to get as much information as possible so that I could really grasp the game, and it's given me such a great escape for me right now. There was a point in time after I redownloaded the game, all I did was come home and hop into bot matches and play to get over all of the bullshit that was going on around me. I had recently quit drinking, and I'm glad that DOTA grabbed me before the bottle could again, which was pretty tempting considering everything else that was going on.

So, thank all of you for taking the time to help new players and returning old players alike with this game. It really means the world to me that you guys are such a great community. Sure, like any community we have our ups and downs, but thank you all very much for being great players. I might still be terrible, but DOTA 2 has given me an escape for my PTSD, and an escape for when my world was crumbling and giving me something else to focus on. It means the world to me, and I'm sure the other new players in the sub as well.

Now, a couple of weeks later and I am happy to say that I have found a new job, my son and wife are back home and everything is getting patched up nicely.

Thank you guys so much for being a great community, and I look forward to playing some of you guys when I finally make that leap into online PVP instead of the kiddie pool with bots!

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7.10 nerfed Tranquil Boots

Posted: 02 Mar 2018 12:16 AM PST

brown boots speed got buffed but cost increased.

but Tranquil's speed didn't get increased.

breaked Tranquil gives you 5 less movespeed than Boots+Windlace

wtf icefrod

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Queen of Pain and Nature's Prophet have had their core skills unchanged for 14 years

Posted: 02 Mar 2018 01:30 AM PST

If you look at Heroes by release and sort by their DotA Allstars release, you will find that QoP and NP have been in the game since its inception. If you look at their old ablilities you will find that their skills have been the same, and that the only tweaks to them have been number changes. This, combined with the fact that both heroes are incredibly strong in even the highest level of play is almost mystifying: these two heroes were so well designed from day one that they required no major changes for 14 years to stay relevant.

I was actually pretty surprised to see how bad power creep is in games such as LoL (video warning) and is sort of a testament of how good DotA's balance and hero design is. Here's to another year of Queen of Pain and Nature's Prophet staying just the way we've loved them for over a decade. (Unless IceFrog decides to change them.)

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Stealing Telekinesis from Morphed Morphling messes up Rubick's spells

Posted: 02 Mar 2018 01:13 AM PST

PGL - The Bucharest Major - Group Stage - Round 1

Posted: 02 Mar 2018 08:30 AM PST

EET Team 1 vs Team 2
10:00 Team Liquid LGD Forever Young
11:30 Team Secret Complexity
13:00 Evil Geniuses paiN Gaiming
14:30 Virtus Pro Optic Gaming
16:00 Mineski TNC
17:30 Vici Gaming VGJ Thunder
19:00 Navi OG
20:30 Newbee Vega Squadron

Start Date: 2018/03/04
Group stage: 16 team Swiss Format, 8 teams proceed to playoffs. All matches played in Bo1.
Playoffs: Single elimination Bo3, with Bo5 finals.
Stream: PGL_Dota2

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430+ days since Techies has been last seen in Captain's mode

Posted: 02 Mar 2018 04:21 AM PST

Don't you think it's time to spice things up? The answer is yes btw.

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The Bucharest Major Group Stage: RO1 Matches and full details

Posted: 02 Mar 2018 08:52 AM PST

Watch on PGL Dota EN and PGL Dota RU

The Bucharest Major Swiss Group Stage will kick off on March 4th, 9:30 AM local time, with the preshow followed by first BO1 matches of Round 1.

Each round of matches will be decided by a live draw that will take place at the end of the day.

The following is a rolling schedule (matches played one right after the other). All times are EET.

March 4th

Time (EET) Match (BO1) Casters
09:30 Preshow Redeye, Zyori, Trent
10:00 Liquid vs LFY Zyori & Trent
11:30 Team Secret vs coL Zyori & Trent
13:00 EG vs Pain Tobi & Purge
14:30 VP vs Optic Gaming Tobi & Purge
16:00 Mineski vs TNC Tobi & Purge
17:30 VG vs VG.J Thunder Maut & Brax
19:00 Navi vs OG Maut & Brax
20:30 Newbee vs Vega Squadron Maut & Brax
22:00 Post show Redeye & Maut & Brax

March 5th

Time (EET) Match (BO1) Casters
09:30 Preshow TBD
10:00 Round 2 match TBD
11:30 Round 2 match TBD
13:00 Round 2 match TBD
14:30 Round 2 match TBD
16:00 Round 2 match TBD
17:30 Round 2 match TBD
19:00 Round 2 match TBD
20:30 Round 2 match TBD
22:00 Post show TBD

March 6th

Time (EET) Match (BO1) Casters
09:30 Preshow TBD
10:00 Round 3 match TBD
11:30 Round 3 match TBD
13:00 Round 3 match TBD
14:30 Round 3 match TBD
16:00 Round 3 match TBD
17:30 Round 3 match TBD
19:00 Round 3 match TBD
20:30 Round 3 match TBD
22:00 Post show TBD

March 7th

Time (EET) Match (BO1) Casters
09:30 Preshow TBD
10:00 Round 4 match TBD
11:30 Round 4 match TBD
13:00 Round 4 match TBD
14:30 Round 4 match TBD
16:00 Round 4 match TBD
17:30 Round 4 match TBD
19:00 Round 5 match TBD
20:30 Round 5 match TBD
22:00 Round 5 match TBD
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Dev: I think we fixed all Morph bugs. Icefrog: HMB

Posted: 02 Mar 2018 12:18 AM PST

pos 4 pudge in 7.10

Posted: 02 Mar 2018 05:39 AM PST

"I would like us to be the most dominant team in Dota 2 history." - Matumbaman at Katowice Major

Posted: 02 Mar 2018 07:32 AM PST

My friend is a Techies spammer, this is our average game. Send help.

Posted: 02 Mar 2018 08:48 AM PST

AA's new lvl 25 cold feet has a pretty big aoe o.o

Posted: 01 Mar 2018 07:13 PM PST

Dispersion and oov? Not a problem

Posted: 01 Mar 2018 06:00 PM PST

Jugg Double Aghs Ulti xD

Posted: 02 Mar 2018 03:01 AM PST

Divine 5 Meta Trends - 7.09 edition

Posted: 02 Mar 2018 06:39 AM PST

This data is based on Divine 5 Ranked Trends report for patch 7.09. It includes every 7.09 ranked match that was played on Divine 5 rank in patch 7.09 (except ones that had abandons, ended in 5 minutes or had insignificantly low score).

Positions data may be inaccurate in some way (mostly so that very bad core games are counted as support while supports who had high stats and didn't spent much on support items may be considered core), but it's most likely to be insignificant.

And another note, thanks to everybody who left their feedback in my "ESL One Katowice 2018 Meta Graph" thread. It helped a lot with fixing various small bugs with hero combos stats and improving graphs.


7.09 Meta Graph

Summary

  • Matches total: 2767
  • Players in matches: 8470
  • Radiant winrate: 51.07% (the tree effect LUL)
  • Average match duration: 34:37

Game Modes

  • All Draft: 87.31% (2416)
  • Random Draft: 12.69% (351)

Regions

  • Europe West: 1269
  • Southeast Asia: 665
  • US East: 357
  • China: 351 (all of Random Draft matches)
  • Europe East: 59
  • Russia: 23
  • South America: 16
  • Australia: 19
  • US West: 8

Heroes

Most Contested Heroes

  • Shadow Fiend: 1238 matches - 1003 picked (46.96% wr) - 235 banned (46.81% wr)
  • Bounty Hunter: 1190 matches - 959 picked (51.62% wr) - 231 banned (54.55% wr)
  • Shadow Shaman: 1016 matches - 848 picked (50.83% wr) - 168 banned (48.21% wr)
  • Tinker: 951 matches - 731 picked (53.08% wr) - 220 banned (56.36% wr)
  • Outworld Devourer: 927 matches - 742 picked (51.48% wr) - 185 banned (52.97% wr)
  • Rubick: 905 matches - 754 picked (47.61% wr) - 151 banned (49.67% wr)
  • Tiny: 890 matches - 748 picked (48.93% wr) - 142 banned (54.23% wr)
  • Tusk: 873 matches - 724 picked (51.10% wr) - 149 banned (55.70% wr)
  • Juggernaut: 817 matches - 656 picked (47.26% wr) - 161 banned (44.72% wr)
  • Queen of Pain: 744 matches - 598 picked (45.99% wr) - 146 banned (52.05% wr)

Most Picked Heroes

  • Shadow Fiend: 1003 (46.96% wr)
  • Bounty Hunter: 959 (51.62% wr)
  • Shadow Shaman: 848 (50.83% wr)
  • Rubick: 754 (47.61% wr)
  • Tiny: 748 (48.93% wr)

Most Banned Heroes

  • Shadow Fiend: 235 (46.81% wr)
  • Bounty Hunter: 231 (54.55% wr)
  • Tinker: 220 (56.36% wr)
  • Outworld Devourer: 185 (52.97% wr)
  • Shadow Shaman: 168 (48.21% wr)

Pick Stages

Stage 1 of Picks (first two picks)

  • Bounty Hunter: 817 (50.92% wr)
  • Shadow Shaman: 556 (49.82% wr)
  • Tusk: 513 (51.66% wr)
  • Rubick: 460 (49.13% wr)
  • Shadow Fiend: 371 (46.09% wr)

Stage 3 of Picks (last pick)

  • Shadow Fiend: 255 (47.06% wr)
  • Outworld Devourer: 254 (53.15% wr)
  • Queen of Pain: 241 (46.47% wr)
  • Tinker: 221 (51.58% wr)
  • Terrorblade: 183 (54.10% wr)

Favorite Pairs

  • Tinker + Bounty Hunter: 199 (51.76%)
  • Shadow Fiend + Shadow Shaman: 148 (50.00%)
  • Shadow Fiend + Clockwerk: 148 (47.97%)
  • Shadow Fiend + Bounty Hunter: 144 (46.53%)
  • Shadow Fiend + Tusk: 138 (50.72%)

Notable Hero Averages

  • Tinker has average of 1,032 damage per minute. Closest hero to him is Zeus with only 950. Third place is taken by Bristleback (755)
  • Lycan's average Tower Damage per minute: 285. Closest heroes are Huskar (228) and Clinkz (214)
  • Highest Average Neutral Camps Stacked - Keeper of the Light with 3.85. Runner-ups: Shadow Demon (3.74), Io (3.06) and Tinker (2.58)
  • Highest average stuns: Spirit Breaker (99.4), Lion (97.9), Nyx Assassin (97.38)
  • Average Heal leader is Io with 315.61. Closest to him is Chen with 124
  • Taken Damage leaders: Timbersaw (759), Wraith King (724), Bristleback (698)
  • Average courier kills: Bounty Hunter takes the lead (0.72), then there's Treant Protector (0.41) and Nature's Prophet (0.29)
  • Average last hits per minute leaders: Luna (9.05), Terrorblade (8.14), Sven (8.13), Shadow Fiend (8.03)

Hero positions

Most popular

Core Safelane

  • Juggernaut: 611 (46.81%)
  • Terrorblade: 520 (51.54%)
  • Gyrocopter: 475 (51.58%)
  • Lifestealer: 441 (53.97%)
  • Faceless Void: 389 (50.90%)

Core Midlane

  • Shadow Fiend: 990 (46.97%)
  • Tinker: 719 (52.71%)
  • Outworld Devourer: 646 (52.79%)
  • Queen of Pain: 538 (46.84%)
  • Storm Spirit: 292 (54.54%)

Core Offlane

  • Tiny: 489 (51.53%)
  • Omniknight: 383 (51.17%)
  • Doom: 289 (53.98%)
  • Beastmaster: 288 (48.26%)
  • Enchantress: 262 (55.73%)

Support

  • Bounty Hunter: 903 (50.28%)
  • Shadow Shaman: 814 (50.12%)
  • Rubick: 726 (47.66%)
  • Tusk: 640 (48.13%)
  • Disruptor: 555 (47.93%)

Notable positions

  • Razor was played as safelane core in 68% of his matches, having 50.71% winrate. Altho, In 19.95% of matches he was played as midlane core and has 39% winrate
  • Zeus was more stable in previous patch: no winrate shifts between various positions, solid 49-51% on mid, offlane and as support (and 83% winrate as safelane core, but it's probably lane swaps)
  • Enigma had 59% winrate on offlane in 7.09
  • Somebody played jungle venomancer: 2 matches, 50% winrate
  • Wraith King is more fun tho: 20 matches as jungling core (14.71% of all his matches) and 40% winrate. 15 matches as support (roaming support and supporting junglers are here too) with 66% winrate. Recently somebody started a trend of playing jungle support WK with helm of the dominator, probably related to this stuff
  • Mid and offlane DK have both 53% winrate
  • Clinkz wasn't really popular in 7.09, but he has 55% as safelane core and 58% as midlane core
  • Similar situation with Huskar: almost the same amount of matches, 61% winrate as safelane core and 68% winrate as midlane core
  • Offlane Chen: 48 matches and 70.83% winrate monkaS
  • Somebody still plays support Visage: 33 matches, 39% winrate. Safelane Core Visage has 16 matches and 75% winrate, Midlane Visage has 49 matches and 61% winrate. There's even Offlane Visage with 13 matches and 76% winrate

Notable Meta shifts

  • Rubick: +4% winrate
  • Queen of Pain: +5% winrate
  • Juggernaut: +5% winrate
  • Average neutral stacks value shifted a bit to support side, way less cores in list now
  • Lycan and Phantom Lancer dropped from top-5 safelane cores. Their places were taken by Terrorblade and Lifestealer (with this new radiance trend, I believe)
  • No significant changes to midlane top heroes
  • Offlane Omniknight winrate drop from 61% to 51%
  • Pangolier and Sand King dropped out a bit from top-5 offlane cores list, Beastmaster rises
  • Antimage wasn't really popular. He didn't even get through the hero averages list threshold, so now Lifestealer has the least deaths
  • Significantly more popular: Terrorblade, Naga Siren, Gyrocopter, Lifestealer, Razor, Dragon Knight, Beastmaster, Witch Doctor,
  • Significantly less popular: Anti-mage, Lycan, Night Stalker, Phantom Lancer, Nyx Assassin

Full report is available here. You can look through data by yourself if you want, maybe you'll find something interesting as well. There are more detailed data about Hero VS Hero performance, Draft stages priorities, pairs and trios, positions stats and dire/radiant winrates.

Previous report for patch 7.08: https://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/7y0grm/divine_5_meta_trends_708_edition/

"ESL One Katowice 2018 Meta Graph" thread and ESL One Katowice 2018 report

And thanks to OpenDota and STRATZ for providing awesome APIs to grab all these juicy matches and generate stats for them.

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Guess the police just dont like dota...

Posted: 02 Mar 2018 10:03 AM PST

When icefrog doesn’t nerf you.

Posted: 01 Mar 2018 12:55 PM PST

For a second, I thought Bloodseeker was OP in the lane.

Posted: 01 Mar 2018 10:34 PM PST

Empire Training 7.10

Posted: 01 Mar 2018 12:51 PM PST

PaiN Gaming interview: “It’s challenging and more fun to play against the best teams first” | VPEsports

Posted: 02 Mar 2018 05:56 AM PST

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