World of Warcraft - 500K Contest Winners


500K Contest Winners

Posted: 05 Feb 2018 02:11 PM PST

Sorry for the delay - the bot that I use to do the draw was on my laptop, which was in the shop for a preposterously long time!

The winners have all been contacted via Reddit private message, and we'll make it all public once we've sorted out all the relevant bits!

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Warcraft has been an MMO longer than it has been an RTS

Posted: 05 Feb 2018 08:38 AM PST

I was thinking about wanting to play a Warcraft RTS today and I realised that Warcraft has been in the MMO genre longer than it has been in the RTS genre.
 

Warcraft: Orcs & Humans released in 1994.

Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne released in 2003.

Total: 9 years.
 

World of Warcraft released in 2004.

World of Warcraft: Battle For Azeroth will release in 2018.

Total: 14 years and counting.
 

It's weird to think about for someone who's played Warcraft games going back to Warcraft 1. At first World of Warcraft felt like a temporary diversion from the RTS line. Now a new Warcraft RTS may just be a temporary diversion from their main MMO line.

  

Edit: I get it. Warcraft has been in active development as an MMO longer than it has been as an RTS. No need to be pedantic - you knew what I was getting at.

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Battle for Azeroth is the perfect opportunity to bring the Night Elves back to their Warcraft III roots and add some brutality to the Alliance(Long but worth it).

Posted: 05 Feb 2018 09:26 AM PST

I know this is long but I put some effort into it so I appreciate those that read it!

I'm admittedly piggybacking off of sentiments I've seen on previous threads discussing Night Elves and they way they've been neutered in World of Warcraft, but I think a full, in-detail thread would be a good place for a discussion.

First, let's talk about what the Warcraft III Night Elves were:

They were xenophobic. This was one of the defining traits of Night Elves when they were introduced. They did not like other races, quite frankly felt they were above other races, and though they weren't genocidal or evil or anything, they did not like humans or orcs intruding in their space.

They were strict defenders of the forest and utilized the trees in their warfare. You could argue that Blizzard kept this trait in WoW, as we know their attachment to the forest is one of the defining parts of their race, but they were much more savage than given credit for. Don't think of Night Elves as "We will defend this forest and promote peace!" Think of them as, "If you try to take down this forest, we will jump down from the trees and fuck you up".

Night Elf Druids were not really a peaceful, happy group. They were savage guardians that sometimes let the beast side take over. They should have been brutal*.

The best way to show what the Night Elves were is to watch this short clip of Tyrande in Warcraft 3. Pay attention to this moment at 1:20.

Tyrande:

So these orcs and humans presume to run rampant through our lands? They will regret ever stepping foot into Ashenvale. We will establish a base and deal with these outlanders as they deserve.

Just look at the harsh language Tyrande uses there. I know a lot of people hate Tyrande in the new expansion, and I'm still kind of annoyed at her, but I like that they're at least trying to go back to the cold-hearted personality. The best way change they could make to Tyrande however is to give her more screen time where the focus is more about her people and the Night Elf lands rather than her beloved Malfurion. Tyrande is at her best when she's not being a love interest in my opinion.

What the Night Elves became

When World of Warcraft came out, the Night Elves were neutered to a ridiculous extent. Rather than keep the defining characteristics of their people and build on them, Blizzard morphed them into some weird mix of Humans and Tauren. They became all about peace and balance and harmony, which was a direct contrast to what they were. Yes, Night Elves and Tauren have a history together(according to post-warcraft 3 lore), but that doesn't mean they have to be ideologically equal in terms of peace.

NOW, I understand that Blizzard had to make some changes because of the nature of an MMO vs. an RTS series. I understand that you could make the argument that fighting along side the humans against the Burning Legion in Warcraft 3 might make the Night Elves more open to changing their ways a bit. I understand that there were plenty of retcons and added lore that would somewhat justify the change in Night Elf personalities from Warcraft III. However, it makes the story less interesting.

What should have happened:

Realistically, when World of Warcraft came out, the Night Elves should have become to the Alliance what the Forsaken were to the Horde initially. They should have been a part of them as an Alliance of convenience. "We don't necessarily agree with you ideologically, but the Orcs are infringing on our land and since they're a common enemy, we'll work with you." Then you could keep the Night Elves as xenophobic savages and add a bit of complexity and morality issues to the Alliance. Wouldn't be interesting to see Night Elves go on the offensive and slaughter an orc village on the border of Ashenvale and Barrens? The Alliance would come out and say that's not the way they fight, but the Elves would say too bad. Could've made for some interesting in-fighting within the faction.

Instead, the Night Elves were white washed, humanized, and became purple hippies who love peace and the forest and nature. However, I believe Battle for Azeroth is the perfect chance to bring them back to their roots. The burning of Teldrassil should make Tyrande go nuts. I'd like to see her directly oppose Anduin and voice something to the extent of: "We have sat back and tried to fight the Horde peacefully for too long, it's time we enact vengeance." She'll want to do something brutal, Anduin will disagree. Then he goes off to conquer Lordareon, while he's away, Tyrande leads her campaign through Ashenvale, through the barrens, through Durotar, on an orc killing mission. Something to that effect would be cool and really complicate the story while bringing the Night Elves back to their roots.

Thoughts?

TLDR: Night Elves went from xenophobic savages in WCIII to human tauren hippies in WoW. They should have been the Forsaken of the Alliance and only worked with them out of convenience. Should've added a darker side to the Alliance in terms of "dishonorable warfare". Battle for Azeroth is the perfect chance for them to get mad at both the direction of the Alliance and the attacks of the Horde, and they should go on a vengeance run.

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They are like animals. And I slaughtered them like animals. I hate them!

Posted: 04 Feb 2018 10:56 PM PST

Battle for Azeroth - The Beginning

Posted: 05 Feb 2018 09:45 AM PST

You came to the wrong Church, heretic.

Posted: 05 Feb 2018 02:30 PM PST

Icy Veins Recruiting Class Guide Writers (Paid Positions)

Posted: 05 Feb 2018 01:16 PM PST

Hello everyone!

With a new expansion on the horizon and a period of relative calm for the next few months, we think this is the perfect opportunity to open up one or more class guide writer positions (for PvE).

This is a paid position, with the amount earned by the writer being a share of the amount generated by the guides they write. More details about this will be available throughout the recruitment process, although we estimate that each writer will earn at least $500 per month per guide.

In order to be considered for the position, you will need to meet the following requirements:

  1. You should have a strong mastery of the English language, particularly in its written form.
  2. You should be playing World of Warcraft at a very high level, and have a very high degree of familiarity with at least one specialization (although ideally more than just one).
  3. You should be committed to playing World of Warcraft at a high level for the foreseeable future (roughly, at a minimum, for the first 6 months of Battle for Azeroth, though ideally for many years to come).

To apply for the position, send us an e-mail at jobs@icy-veins.com. It is up to you to find the best way to express yourself over e-mail in order for your application to be compelling. There is currently no deadline for applying, but once we feel that we have had enough applications, we will announce a deadline.

Good luck and we look forward to reading your applications!

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By fire be served

Posted: 05 Feb 2018 07:48 AM PST

This Bird Keeps Itself In The Air By Sheer Force Of Anger Alone

Posted: 05 Feb 2018 07:35 AM PST

Blizz, make him stop :*(

Posted: 05 Feb 2018 06:12 AM PST

When they shower you with love but it's only for an achievement.

Posted: 05 Feb 2018 08:18 AM PST

The things you see when completing zones thoroughly for the first time

Posted: 05 Feb 2018 10:26 AM PST

Will Liam get ressurected by Sylvanas In the Battle for Azeroth?

Posted: 05 Feb 2018 11:56 AM PST

They say Genn will play a big role in this expansion, so I hope to see some Gilneas action, since the Plague has probably already dissipated over time.

So, do you think Sylvanas will ressurect Liam and use him as a weapon against Genn? She must be really mad since Genn took away her chance to get immortality...

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Shout out to Alleria and Turelyon

Posted: 05 Feb 2018 07:12 AM PST

I feel like I need to say this, but I love the relationship Alleria and her husband have. It's exactly as it should be for a married couple. There is love, and trust there. She surrenders herself to Xe'ra trusting in her husband, and once she is free, not once does Turelyon question her on it, rather comfort her on the fact that it will be okay. It's just refreshing after seeing so many romance "couples" in fiction, there is one that shows just what exactly real love is all about; trust.

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So it seems Blizzard forgot Silvermoon

Posted: 04 Feb 2018 11:41 PM PST

As a main Demo Lock I'd rather get a badass weapon for my wrathguard than a better weapon for myself. But personal Loot and Quests won't allow it.

Posted: 05 Feb 2018 01:00 PM PST

Wildhammer Allied Race Fan Mockup

Posted: 05 Feb 2018 02:19 PM PST

I honestly think Suramar is one of the most beautiful zones ever created.

Posted: 05 Feb 2018 05:05 AM PST

A surprisingly dark short by Nixxiom: Call of the Warrior

Posted: 05 Feb 2018 08:07 AM PST

Blizz can we get a new animation for Ice barrier? it looks terrible after Fire/Arcane got new animations for their barriers.

Posted: 05 Feb 2018 12:32 PM PST

Title is the post really. The Ice barrier we have is iconic but its so old now, it just looks bad compared to blazing and prismatic barrier. I would love for frost to get a barrier makeover so it looks just as cool as arcane/fire

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Lets not forget the true MVP of pre flying legion

Posted: 04 Feb 2018 10:31 PM PST

Ship to northrend brought me to alterac valley

Posted: 05 Feb 2018 07:49 AM PST

So yesterday I tried taking the boat from SW to northrend and it dropped me off at the entrance of the alterac valley pvp instance instead. Just wondering if this has happened to anyone else before.

Don't know how to embed links so video is linked below. https://gfycat.com/HarshDependableFlyingfox

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Void Elf Heritage Armor on Short, But Still Important Races.

Posted: 05 Feb 2018 02:26 AM PST

This transmog addon has literally saved me hundreds of hours by telling me exactly what to farm for the sets I don't yet have! Hope this helps someone else

Posted: 05 Feb 2018 02:53 PM PST

This bugs me way more than it should.

Posted: 05 Feb 2018 02:24 PM PST

Now that BFA is rolling out, Silvermoon could use some love (and flying, which Exodar needs, too).

Posted: 04 Feb 2018 06:36 PM PST

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