League of Legends - I got a free pizza from a random guy in my game just now. Thank you league community. |
- I got a free pizza from a random guy in my game just now. Thank you league community.
- Falconshield - This Is War 6: Shurima (*COLLAB*) - YouTube
- 200 IQ Quinn play
- LOL new map!! (satellite map)
- Fnatic Announce Partnership With OnePlus
- Lets play together on New Year's Eve!
- A large drawing of Ditto from Pokémon as every single champion currently in League of Legends
- [SELF][HOLIDAY COSPLAY] Slay Belle Katarina & Candy Cane Miss Fortune by Mikomi Hokina and YuzuPyon + Bonus in comment! ~ ♥
- Skin of the Year 2017 - Results
- You have to main one champion for the rest of your life, who would you choose and why?
- i had a really good dream today
- Comparison of champion main subreddits from 6 months to now.
- The person with the highest summoner level hit lvl 300 today
- 201 IQ Play
- What was, in your opinion, Riot's biggest fuck-up of 2017?
- Anyone know when what is happening with these emotes
- Froggen Anivia play vs Fenix
- Just found this gem in my bookmarks. Rip ap yi
- Levi - Road to NA | Goodbye GAM Levi
- What was, in your opinion, Riot's best decision of 2017?
- ROX Shy on Being Remembered: "I want my name recorded in the history of esports..."
- IDEA: What if there was a better Fantasy LCS system?
- What is the most satisfying combo to land in League?
- Am I going crazy or does my league client randomly make noises
- Investigation of League Player's Common Complaints
| I got a free pizza from a random guy in my game just now. Thank you league community. Posted: 31 Dec 2017 08:28 AM PST It's not often that you have a fun game full of banter with your teammates. Even less so when someone doesn't break their promise on a troll bet and actually buys you a pizza. We had plenty of friendly banter that game between all of us but then our Thresh said, " first one to lose their tower owes everyone pizza," when every first tower was at sub 200 hp at the time. After several kerfuffles with the enemy team, it finally happened. Alas, bot lanes tower fell first and me being a hungry man immediately pinged his tower, put my full address in and just said " I want my pizza" We casually mess around about dominoes and I say pizza hut can order it at a later time for me( it was around 6AM here and he said he was from Germany and it was 12:30PM over there) I really want to thank those random people in league who just make your day better, who make moments you'll never forget and make you want to keep playing. Thank you dear random normal game guy, Obskyur Unfortunately I don't have pictures of the ingame chat since I didn't take it seriously but here's the post game after he said he was doing it. https://imgur.com/a/lLGHo [link] [comments]  | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Falconshield - This Is War 6: Shurima (*COLLAB*) - YouTube Posted: 31 Dec 2017 10:27 AM PST
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| Posted: 31 Dec 2017 05:11 AM PST Hello guys, I come again. This time I bring you an artwork on which I spent entire one week without going out any day! Another brand-new LOL world map, based on the lores, fandom wiki of LOL, and LOL universe etc. Besides, thanks to rioter @Riot_Bioluminescence and @Threegivennames for their help and suggestion, this is the final map. Since the map is too big, I will post them one by one according to the areas! Runeterra (The entire map) https://i.imgur.com/cwrzRNo.jpg Demacia Kingdom https://i.imgur.com/ymVmbvp.jpg Freljord Avarosa tribe https://i.imgur.com/1ZkXXnQ.jpg Freljord North https://i.imgur.com/nYCkhoy.jpg Ionia (the entire map, I define Ionia as the magical fairyland so there is so much cloud) https://i.imgur.com/uaZGOOK.jpg Northen Ionia https://i.imgur.com/uUi4Yvv.jpg Eastern Ionia https://i.imgur.com/oRtvanV.jpg Southern Ionia https://i.imgur.com/ESlVkho.jpg Noxus Empire (the entire map) https://i.imgur.com/2ZZgT3D.jpg Noxus capital area and Piltover/Zaun https://i.imgur.com/mQ8MCWm.jpg Shurima https://i.imgur.com/BKyEJ6m.jpg Mount Targon, the deep abyss, and Kumungu jungle https://i.imgur.com/cpt994q.jpg The Great Barrier and Plague Jungles https://i.imgur.com/7sqCSDQ.jpg Icathia and Voodoo Lands https://i.imgur.com/RMpETq9.jpg Bilgewater https://i.imgur.com/ICf9SAC.jpg Shadow Isles [link] [comments]  | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Fnatic Announce Partnership With OnePlus Posted: 31 Dec 2017 05:35 AM PST
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| Lets play together on New Year's Eve! Posted: 31 Dec 2017 05:56 AM PST Hello everyone! I made a similar post in 2014 and 2016 as well, don't ask me what happened in 2015 cause i don't remeber. So lets repeat it again and maybe make it an annual tradition. This year i decided to give it a better organisation as last times it was kind of random and unorganized. I made a discord server so we can all join and play : https://discord.gg/87qTr7u I made diffrent channels for different regions: https://i.imgur.com/xop4rQf.png so people can play together easier. I remeber in 2014, people like Xpeke and cyanide, jumped in for a few games with community, and it made people very happy. If there is a pro player, streamer, youtuber, or any other person known to this community, don't hesitate jump in for a few games. It will make people very happy. In case we ran out of channels just howl at me i will add more. Lets have some fun and make new friends. Wish you a happy new year! [link] [comments]  | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| A large drawing of Ditto from Pokémon as every single champion currently in League of Legends Posted: 31 Dec 2017 02:36 PM PST http://bipbopbard.tumblr.com/image/169135078393 I may have shown a liiiiiittle bit of favoritism. Like Jhin compared to Trist. Woops! Drawn on 18x24" paper with a pen. [link] [comments]  | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Posted: 31 Dec 2017 07:05 AM PST Happy New Year! ♥ https://i.imgur.com/9mm1Vve.jpg We wanted to share the cosplay we made for the holidays c: Everything is handmade, from the outfit to the props! We hope you like it! Check the comments for a bonus version and props details! Yuzu & Miko ♥ [link] [comments]  | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Skin of the Year 2017 - Results Posted: 31 Dec 2017 03:05 AM PST Here are the Skin of the Year results. Best Skin
Best Splash ArtImgur album with all Splash Arts:
Best 1820 RP Skin
Best 1350 RP Skin
Best 975 RP Skin
Best 750 RP Skin
Best Non-RP purchasable Skin
Favorite Skin Themes
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| You have to main one champion for the rest of your life, who would you choose and why? Posted: 31 Dec 2017 08:50 AM PST I would go with Thresh. He has engage, peel, a lantern (yeah, I know!) and just a really cool design. His skins are great as well! I would also be locked to being a support which is nice. So /leagueoflegends, what champion would you choose? [link] [comments]  | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| i had a really good dream today Posted: 31 Dec 2017 09:35 AM PST i had a dream that riot released a brand new mode where you would build your own champ from pre-existing abilities, which was ranked and had all the good players on it. i made a champ that was all of alistar's abilities except his q was maokai's q. i quickly climbed elo until i was against faker. he was playing some horrid mage amalgamation with like kass passive, ryze q, viktor w, lb e, and taliyah ult. i promptly whooped his fuckin ass. for some reason after the game i realized i was in an internet cafe and faker was directly to my right, with doublelift being on his right. faker was like "wow, i never thought to just take alistar and give him maokai's q, that is genius!". for some reason while he said this it sounded like he was speaking korean, but i could understand perfectly what he meant. doublelift was also talking and he was saying stuff like "our match was good too faker, you don't have to pay attention to him, my ideas are usually better they just don't work out in practice". fuck you doublelift, i worked hard to come up with that idea, you think it's not good cause i beat faker and you can't? team liquid is fucked. then i woke up cause my dog glomped me. overall pretty good dream 9/10 [link] [comments]  | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Comparison of champion main subreddits from 6 months to now. Posted: 31 Dec 2017 09:15 AM PST r/Rivenmains - 15,519 r/Bardmains - 11,464 r/Yasuomains - 10,849 r/Gangplankmains - 9,890 r/Jhinmains - 7,787 r/Rengarmains - 7,032 r/Ahrimains - 5,920 r/Talonmains - 5,835 r/Threshmains - 5,754 r/Zedmains -5,426 r/Fioramains - 5,295 r/Katarinamains - 5,120 r/Ekkomains - 4,773 Dravenmains (r/Draven) - 4,486 r/Singedmains - 4,376 r/Azirmains - 4,263 r/Kindred - 4,240 r/Vaynemains - 4,158 r/Shacomains - 4,077 Teemomains (r/TeemoTalk) - 4,033 r/KaynMains - 4,017 r/Khazixmains - 3,759 Luxmains (r/Lux) - 3,605 r/Jaycemains - 3,601 r/Ireliamains - 3,513 r/Oriannamains - 3,490 r/Taliyahmains - 3,581 r/Janna - 3,164 r/Viktormains - 3,054 r/Dianamains - 3.030 r/Dariusmains - 3,159 r/Twitchmains - 3,150 r/Xayahmains - 2,929 r/Akalimains - 2,926 r/Evelynnmains 2,895 r/Quinnmains - 2,882 r/Aurelion_Sol_mains - 2,828 r/Renektonmains 2,732 r/Jaxmains - 2,748 r/LeeSinmains - 2,694 r/Sonamains - 2,665 r/Nidaleemains - 2,556 r/Lucianmains - 2,516 r/Zyramains - 2,508 r/Ryzemains - 2,508 r/Fizzmains - 2,501 Jinxmains (r/leagueofjinx) - 2,626 r/Rakanmains - 2,579 r/Yorickmains - 2,567 r/Camillemains - 2,476 r/Ezrealmains - 2,443 r/Namimains - 2,404 r/Tryndameremains - 2,398 r/Syndramains 2,392 r/Vladimirmains - 2,389 r/Gnarmains - 2,313 r/Kledmains - 2,284 r/Leblancmains - 2,274 r/Aniviamains - 2,260 r/Gravesmains - 2,219 r/Sorakamains - 2,184 r/Kassadinmains - 2,177 Sionmains (r/Dirtysionmains) - 2.165 r/Poppymains - 2,147 r/Caitlynmains - 2,112 Illaoimains (r/Illaoi) - 2,062 r/Lulumains - 2,031 r/Udyrmains - 2,018 Masteryimains (r/yimo) -2,006 r/Nasusmains - 1,977 r/Ivernmains - 1,959 r/Malzaharmains - 1,918 r/Kaylemains - 1,909 r/Warwickmains - 1,900 r/Tristanamains - 1,898 r/Karmamains - 1,844 r/Vimains - 1,809 Shenmains (r/Shen) - 1,791 r/Swainmains - 1,780 r/TwistedFatemains - 1,734 r/Mordekaisermains - 1,710 r/Leonamains - 1,666 r/Wukongmains - 1,694 Velkozmains (r/Velkoz) 1,685 r/Urgotmains 1,661 r/Veigarmains - 1,615 r/MissFortunemains - 1,651 r/Anniemains - 1,550 r/Aatroxmains - 1,464 r/Cassiopeiamains - 1,454 Zacmains (r/TheSecretWeapon) - 1,435 r/Elisemains - 1,434 r/shyvanamains - 1,423 r/Varusmains - 1,403 r/Ashemains - 1,380 r/Garenmains - 1,349 r/Pantheonmains - 1,340 r/Rumblemains - 1,321 r/Taricmains - 1,317 r/Kalistamains - 1,217 r/Heimerdingermains - 1,202 r/Braummains - 1,179 r/Morganamains 1,132 r/Reksaimains - 1,103 r/Hecarimmains - 1,162 r/Galiomains - 1,158 r/Zileanmains - 991 r/Kennenmains - 971 r/Karthusmains - 975 r/Nautilusmains - 954 r/Nocturnemains - 935 r/Brandmains - 931 r/Gragasmains - 989 r/JarvanIVmains 949 r/TahmKenchmains - 944 r/Xerathmains - 933 r/XinZhaomains - 924 r/Blitzcrankmains - 884 r/Trundlemains - 865 r/Lissandramains - 832 r/Kogmawmains - 864 r/Maokaimains - 859 r/Ziggsmains 845 r/Sejuanimains - 743 r/Rammusmains - 704 r/Chogathmains - 690 r/Corkimains - 648 r/Nunumains - 645 r/Fiddlesticksmains - 571 r/Sivir - 561 r/Skarnermains - 537 r/Olafmains - 528 r/Amumumains - 482 r/Volibearmains - 484 r/DrMundomains - 463 r/Malphitemains - 403 r/Alistarmains - 403 This is comparing from 6 months ago https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/6hmpoc/a_comparison_of_all_champion_main_subreddits/ compare and contrast, see which ones grew alot and which ones didn't. [link] [comments]  | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| The person with the highest summoner level hit lvl 300 today Posted: 31 Dec 2017 03:48 AM PST | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| What was, in your opinion, Riot's biggest fuck-up of 2017? Posted: 30 Dec 2017 05:26 PM PST | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Anyone know when what is happening with these emotes Posted: 31 Dec 2017 01:28 PM PST Alright round 2 since the first post got removed because of I addressed rioters isntead of the community (no idea why moderation is so strict but ok) I was browsing the wiki and found these https://imgur.com/hNdTtxK in the unknown availability section,they are not on the pbe either which sucks I'm interested in getting 1 in particular(a total mystery of which Im sure)Are they coming soon tm? [link] [comments]  | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| Just found this gem in my bookmarks. Rip ap yi Posted: 31 Dec 2017 10:33 AM PST
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| Levi - Road to NA | Goodbye GAM Levi Posted: 31 Dec 2017 03:16 AM PST
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| What was, in your opinion, Riot's best decision of 2017? Posted: 30 Dec 2017 08:30 PM PST In response to the other thread. https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/7n5kwk/what_was_in_your_opinion_riots_biggest_fuckup_of/ [link] [comments]  | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ROX Shy on Being Remembered: "I want my name recorded in the history of esports..." Posted: 31 Dec 2017 07:53 AM PST
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| IDEA: What if there was a better Fantasy LCS system? Posted: 31 Dec 2017 09:12 AM PST I love watching competitive League, but I think it would be cool if there was a bigger incentive for players to watch LCS. Two years ago there were sites that would let people bet on which players or teams would do well in the upcoming games. I think the most famous ones were Vulcun and Alphadraft. Those were later made illegal in some countries for online betting, but a cool feature they had, was to able to vote without spending real money. Now, I know that Fantasy LCS is a thing, but in my opinion it sucks. I personally don't know many people that enjoy competitive, and those who do only watch Worlds and MSI. The way to work around the need of friends to play with is by joining groups with people you don't know and that sucks too because you already don't get anything from it and now you also don't get to brag about being better than other people, because bragging to people you don't even know would be pretty weird. I think, it would a lot more fun if Riot made a system similar to Vulcun's. Every week you could spend some of your BE and make a fantasy team with limited price, so you can't just get all the best players and teams, to make things more interesting there could be a leaderboard and those who place at the top 25~30% would get twice of what they were betting. This system could be abused and result in people with more experience getting too much BE too fast. So there should probably be a cap of the max BE the player could bet. At the end of the season, there could be individual leaderboards for bets in each region, and the top 10% players could get a free skin or something like that. This rank would be for points gathered during all year. I believe a system like this would be great for new players to get involved with the competitive scene. [link] [comments]  | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| What is the most satisfying combo to land in League? Posted: 31 Dec 2017 07:45 AM PST | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Am I going crazy or does my league client randomly make noises Posted: 31 Dec 2017 10:16 AM PST I usually keep league open while I'm browsing reddit or doing something else on my PC and I always hear the noise that sounds like someone is messaging me on league. It's driving me fucking crazy. [link] [comments]  | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Investigation of League Player's Common Complaints Posted: 30 Dec 2017 09:52 PM PST PRE-NOTE Made this post originally on the League Boards and was asked by people to put it out there for Reddit users to see as well. First time using Reddit to post(second time all-together) so I don't know how many posts you guys see about this sort of stuff. The premise of this post is that on the Boards there is a lot of people just angrily yelling/complaining about things like tower damage/durability, power creep, mobility creep, snowballing, etc. without much substance; and Riot in response "ignoring" the posts because they are too toxic to reply to. So I tried culminating all the complaints into a well thought out post, and to investigate the claims. Another purpose is to try to stop the "ignoring" that is going on to valid claims, giving enough substance to start a conversation over. Curious to see how different Reddit's response will be from the Boards. I am not telling anyone to do anything with this information, save some suggestions for Riot at the end(because I don't like pointing out negatives unless I give solutions), just want to clear the air about why people are complaining. (cleaned up and reformatted the post for you guys).
TLDR People have been complaining about towers and damage and snowballing for a while now, so I decided to look into it, comparing when I started playing league(around Patch 5.22) to current league investigating as many avenues for causes and counter-causes(tings that evened it out) as I could.
What I found is that:
All of these seem to add up to what people are complaining about as a heavy snowball meta. This "snowball meta" makes some average games based on rank as low as 15 minutes and makes it harder than previous seasons to make a comeback.
Note: This is a complex topic, and a tl;dr cuts out the evidence and can change the tone based on interpretation. Please read the whole article if you have the time and patience. :D
INTRO
Now that pre-season has settled for the holidays and we have all gotten a chance to see where the meta lies, I feel it's a good time to point out what we want changed early this season.
At this point it should be obvious to most players that something is amiss in games, game times aren't lasting as long, and less games are satisfying to play. But wait, that may just be personal perception. Lets look at some statistics then.
https://www.leagueofgraphs.com/rankings/game-durations Okay, about 27 minute average across all of league, that's certainly lower than what it used to be, but not by too much. Maybe a 5 minute drop since I started playing 2 years ago. But Challenger has an average game length of 15 minutes, that can't be right. Games should rarely be that short let alone average games. So maybe there is a problem. Lets look at what it used to be 2 years ago to be sure though.
http://www.leaguemath.com/match-duration-analysis/ Average game time around 34 minutes across all of league, with Challenger being 31 minutes. Wow, that's less than half the game length for Challengers from 2 years ago.
So games are shorter by about 7 minutes. That doesn't seem like much, until you consider that those 7 minutes made up 20.5% of average game time 2 years ago, which is a really high percentage. Makes sense why so many people have been complaining about it. So what's the cause? Lets come back to that.
TURRETS
The game still feels less satisfying to play, that's something we need get into before we can figure out why this is happening. What feels less satisfying though? The common complaints center around towers, bot lane, and snowballing.
Let's start with the controversial issue of towers. People feel they are to too weak and "made of paper mache". Lets review the changes to turrets since patch 5.22(since that's around when I started playing, and thus can accurately speak on).
Patch 5.23:
-Towers straight up gained some durability.
Patch 6.9: "Heating up" damage no longer partially resets when turrets switch targets
MAX DAMAGE 225% over four shots ⇒ 220% over three shots
Defensive stats
BASE ARMOR 0 ⇒ 40
BASE MAGIC RESISTANCE 0 ⇒ 40
TURRET PENETRATION Turrets are now subject to armor and magic penetration effects
Fortification
Reinforced armor
Physical and magic damage is now reduced by 66.66%
Ability power damage vs. turrets
Basic attack scaling off of ability power now deals magic damage to turrets (base damage still physical)
-Towers lost 200 health since 5.22, gained 40 resistance, reinforced armor gives same resistance but isn't subject to penetration, penetration now works on tower's resistances, AP users do more damage against towers(penetration and basic attack changes), damage from turrets easier to read, damage from turrets ramps up faster, turrets do slightly less damage when heated up, turrets take 35% less damage from minions and less damage from champion autos mid and late game, towers take slightly more damage early game from champions.
-Overall turrets became slightly tankier in most situations, but a lot weaker against those building penetration. They do more front loaded damage.
Patch 6.10: Towers now additionally absorbs 66% of true damage when the backdoor bonus is in effect.
-Reinforced armor now works on true damage, tankier slightly
Patch 6.15:
Turret First Blood
-Outer turrets got tankier pre-5-minutes, but lost significant durability from 5-7 minutes, bot-lane tower nerfed significantly durability-wise, gold generation from towers decreased by 150 gold with an alternative +250 team gold if your team gets first tower.
-Overall nerf to tower durability as not much tower pushing happens pre-5-minutes and because of resistance duration nerf. Bot tower had its resistances dropped early and first turret blood was introduced, making it more of a target, so large durability nerf to those towers.
Patch 6.22:
-Base towers lost 45% armor penetration, became dodgable(reseting aggro or time it takes to fire and whatnot), became easier to CS under tower.
-Large nerf to tower damage, becoming much harder to holding map advantage and making combacks harder. Tanks become more useful at tanking. Turrets gain some value in holding gold advantage over lane if pushed under.
Patch 7.4:
-Tower gold value reduced for most turrets.
Patch 7.23:
-Turrets don't gain much if any durability. Really unsure of point of changes. Minions do 9.1% more damage if accounting for health changes, but there's more health for champions to have to go through if you can keep champions as the only damage dealers. So actually a slight nerf to durability.
Source: http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Turret
So since Patch 5.22 lane towers have gained some front loaded damage, but a bit less for really long fights under towers. The first lane towers became vulnerable earlier, with bot lane losing a lot of early resistances. First tower blood introduced and turret gold value lowered making it even more important. Turrets became vulnerable to penetration and AP users became better at pushing turrets. Base towers lost significant damage making them much easier to tank and dive. Second tower in lane has about the same durability as patch 5.22.
MINIONS
Minions play a strong role in towers and are heavily tied to their durability. Maybe there were changes made that countered these durability changes that we didn't take note of.
Patch: 5.23
Melee minion
Caster minion
Siege minion
-Minions do more damage to enemy minions if your team is ahead by level and/or turrets. In terms of turret durability there is no direct effect, but the indirect effect is they are pushing up to turrets faster. Gold from minions more front-loaded, with individual minions being worth less than before after 34 minutes. Changes also makes CSing more complicated.
Patch 7.23:
-Minions approach turrets faster after 20 minutes. Causes only a slight indirect nerf to turret durability as time spacing of waves did not change.(only affects formation of those massive minion pushes)
http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Minion
Minion gold value front loaded, so items are earned faster. Minions also gained damage if you're ahead. Both of these changes favor snowballing.
WHAT IT MEANS, DEFENSE PENETRATION, OBJECTIVES, AND MORE
So lets put this all together now and see what it means.
Turret gold has been heavily emphasized on first turret blood, while taking away gold from other towers. This has encouraged snowballing due to gold advantage first turret blood gives, as well as making comebacks harder due to lowering of turret gold values(harder to close gold advantage gap). On top of this minions were given more gold value early on, meaning we get items earlier and those early minions are more important to kill than before. How this adds up is that: It's hard to CS early if you don't have items, but if your team gets a little ahead from first turret blood you can buy that item earlier, CS better, outlevel, and push harder. The minions were given higher early gold values, so out CSing early causes a bigger gap. Frankly there may be too much tied to first turret when you look at it like that. Not only do you get a big early gold advantage, but your minions do 10% more damage, helping you "push the advantage", which helps all lanes push and helps to outlevel, giving another 10% damage.
Lane turrets have actually gained a bit of damage since Patch 5.22, so the community needs to stop saying that they hit for nothing. However if you want to talk about base turrets(nexus and inhib towers), then yes, they have lost a large chunk of the damage they used to do now that they do not shoot lasers anymore(approx. 40% off of quick mental calculations). As far as turrets feeling like "paper mache", there's some truth behind that if you are comparing to Patch 5.22. The amount of damage you can do earlier on to turrets is higher due to the lowering of the early game resistance duration. Yes, the value of the damage reduction was increased, but that's only for about 3 minutes of laning phase, as the first 2 minutes don't have minions yet. Not all of those 3 minutes will you be able to reach the enemy tower either, as it takes time to clear the enemy wave and get to the tower. Bot lane no longer even gets that bit of resistance, making it all the more appealing to take early in a lane where you already can get a gold advantage from kills alone. Not to mention that chances of first blood(kill) are highest bot lane already.
So we have a little bit of extra early damage on turrets and bot lane has a plethora of ways to get an early gold advantage(first blood, first turret, 2 lane opponents to kill), that's not too bad of a change by itself, it's not like other lanes can't get first turret or first blood after all. Well, there's still the minion buffs for being ahead on top of that little snowball effect, which does add to the snowball. And then on top of that it becomes hard to make a comeback because of how hard the losing laners are being stat checked(enemy extra items and minions waves being pushed harder by enemies and minions alike). This is something that of course should happen, but the amount of tools to push being ahead have greatly increased.
Outside of laning phase there's the issue of penetration having become effective against turrets. Turret health values haven't changed much over all these patches, nor have their resistances changed much, but penetration now works on them. Initially when turrets had the ability to be affected by penetration added, they got 40 armor and magic resist to compensate a bit. But penetration has become more abundant and their defensive stats have not been adjusted. The fact this also helped AP users assault towers (in addition to them dealing AP scaling auto damage to towers as magic damage) really didn't help this situation. Overall it made it harder for tanks and fighters to do damage to turrets, but made it easier for ADCs, assassins, and mages to deal damage to them.
We all know(or should know) that Riot has been trying hard to stop 50min+games from happening often, but if these were all meant towards that end, they seem like a bit much given that we are now moving towards the opposite end of things.
On that note lets look at some other changes that have been made since 5.22 that follow this same pattern.
Patch 5.22:
Rift Herald added(We will ignore Rift Herald from here till update to save space).
-Buff to red buff, slight nerf to tower durability from it. Rift Herald is a split push buff, further giving a slight nerf to tower durability.
Patch 6.3:
Dragon's Dominance / Dragon Slayer buff Dragon buff (fourth stack)
-Slight buff to tower durability, slight nerf to their damage.
Patch 6.9:
Infernal Drake Infernal Drake
Mountain Drake Mountain Drake
Cloud Drake Cloud Drake
Ocean Drake Ocean Drake
After the 35 minute mark, only the Elder Dragon Elder Dragon will spawn. It grants a 120 second buff that increases other dragon's buff by 50% while also granting a burning effect on basic attacks. Basic attacks and spells burn the target for (45 × Elder Dragon Elder Dragons slain) (+ 45 per Elemental Dragon Mark) damage over 3 seconds and increases the strength of Elemental Dragon buffs by 50%. This stack only lasts 120 seconds or until death.
Enhanced Infernal Drake Infernal Drake: + 12 / 24 / 36% attack damage and ability power.
-Nerf to turret durability, slight buff to turret damage.
Red buff
-slight nerf to tower durability
-Overall nerf to tower durability, with a slight overall buff to damage. Also notable damage creep added.
Patch 6.14:
-Slight nerf to tower durability as champions can get to them faster. Slight mobility creep.
Patch 6.24:
-Slight nerf to tower durability
Patch 7.9:
-Rift herald becomes much easier to get, and deals more damage, as well as becoming a lot more desirable. Significant nerf to tower durability. Facilitates snowballing now.
Patch 7.13:
-Slight snowball increase.
Patch 7.22:
-Microscopic nerf to tower durability.
The culmination of these changes creates an overall nerf to tower durability. Although they are all situational buffs, the amount of tower affecting buffs to players has increased significantly, and the damage that each does individually has greatly increased as well. With the availability of red buff alone, and it being given tower pushing power drastically effects tower durability; but there's also Rift Herald almost every game, and the dragon tower damage is on average higher and easier to obtain making that indirect nerf to durability significantly higher.
BOT LANE SNOWBALLING
These changes created a gold sinkhole bot-lane where junglers need to get them fed early or the team suffers later(as was noted many times last season) as well as over-emphasizing a bot-lane-meta and the huge early gold advantage that can come with it. At the same time, towers were made easier to push by ADCs, minions were buffed to be harder to push against if behind, more gold was added early game via minions, and non-first-blood-tower gold was lowered; all of which increased snowball speed and gold difference early on, contributing to whole feeling of ADCs being feast or famine since a while back now.
That brings us to our next question, how come it changed from an ADC feast-famine-meta to seemingly whoever gets someone fed in the first 10 minutes wins the game? We've already shown that this at least has some shred of evidence to back it up just off of Challenger game lengths, so lets see why.
AFFECTS OF NEW RUNES
Let's start off our basis on community complaints like before, as it seemed to at least have a shred of truth to it. There have been a lot of complaints about power creep and mobility creep in the community over the last two years. The same complaints have popped up with the new runes as well. I won't go over power creep and mobility creep in items or kits(at least not in depth), as that would take too long and be to difficult to cover it all; so lets just take a look at the rune system for now.
With the old rune system, on Warwick, I would take runes giving +10.2% AS, +9 armor, +12.1 MR, +4.5% lifesteal, +3.8 lethality. And masteries giving +4% AS, +3% damage dealt, +2% damage taken, +2.5% lifesteal/spellvamp, +1% damage for each unique kill, +4.2% armor pen, +2.8% magic pen, fervor of battle, +5 auto damage against minions and monsters, +2% damage against enemy champions while no allied champions are nearby, +5% damage to champions below 40% health, and bandit.
This would be +14.2% AS, +9 AR, +12.1 MR, +7% lifesteal, +8% damage late game, +3.8 lethality, +4.2% armor pen, +2.8% magic pen, +5% damage against champions below 40% health, and ramping up damage from fervor.
Now I take Press the Attack(small burst damage + 12% extra damage after), Triumph(restore 12% missing health on takedown), Legend:Bloodline(+8% lifesteal at max stacks), Last Stand(+5%--12% extra damage while below 60% HP), The Ultimate Hat(+15% R-cooldown), and Celerity(+3% MS, +8% bMS as AD/AP). [+18% AS from path].
To compare that's 3.8% more AS, -2 AR after rune compensation, +8 AD from rune compensation(just about accounts for my pen), MR was compensated in item balance so lets assume -3MR(based off AR after compensation), +1% lifesteal from before and Triumph on top of it, +3% MS, +12%--24% damage based on situation as opposed to 8%--15% based on situation, triumph gives gold bandit used to, +8 AD from rune compensation, and then there's Ultimate Hat. So I got more AD, AS, lifesteal/sustainability, MS, CDR, and %damage multiplier on the new system from the old as well as allowing allies to get a damage boost, and doing a little burst damage. And all I lost was a bit of AR/MR. So it does seem that there has been a lot of damage creep from new runes, as well as a bit of MS creep.
Lets gloss over some champion changes that highlight damage creep in the game for a second as well.
CHAMPION AND ITEM POWER CREEP
First let's look at Alister as an example. Alister was previously known as a single target lock down champion with low damage, a small heal, and really tanky. He still maintains his tankiness, but his heal is now stronger, his abilities more damaging, now has an extra CC, and is expected to build at least a bit damaging. Not necessarily a bad thing, in fact I quite liked his mini-rework, and I love building tanks damaging(while still maintaining their tankiness). Ardent Censar now gives AP scaling off of mana-regen, helps give supports a way to itemize for heals, and get some AP. Janna used to routinely rank lowest damage dealt of any champion for the longest time, but it was fine and she was one of the strongest supports because she had so much utility. Now she still does just about everything she did before, but she does decent damage as well.
None of these are problems in and of themselves, the problem becomes when this is happening across the board, which it is. One of the reasons I am seeing for this is that Riot wanted to make the support role fun for more people. Well, for most people it's not that much fun to play a ole where you do almost no damage, which was the support role. So what did they do, they gave them damage options, and they made some more mage supports viable. Lets take a moment and think about why that might be an issue based off what we already discussed. With bot lane already being the most gold teetering lane in the game, Riot added more damage to the lane, further exacerbating the snowballing or feast/famine effect down there.
CULMINATED EFFECTS AND MISC. CAUSES
That's when preseason came along. All that damage and mobility added on top of this not only made it extremely hard for ADCs to position and incredibly easy for their lane to snowball, but for other lanes to snowball as well. Warwick isn't a bot lane champion, and he gained large damage buffs from runes, with little to no trade-off. So now champions have gained little tankiness and are putting out 10%+ more damage, as well as having tools to get around mana problems in almost every tree. The meta immediately shifted to a burst meta, and not only did whoever happened to(almost seemingly by sheer luck) get first kill bot snowball from it, but other lanes started bursting their opponents and snowballing too. This is why people are complaining about one sided games; because with the amount of burst and the ease to take towers(we haven't even mentioned demolish yet), it's hard for anyone not to snowball off of a single kill. That and the mountain to climb to make a comeback just keeps getting higher.
Another thing perpetuating this meta is the keystone options, recent jungle changes, and mobility creep. With mobility being more available than ever due to new champion design philosophy and new runes, junglers who don't have that mobility are being left unviable at the moment. Not just them either, but also junglers who can't burst/chunk opponents and counter-junglers have become unviable. If your jungler doesn't have mobility then they can't catch the now faster-than-ever laners. Even if your champion does have mobility, if it's just a movement speed buff, it may not be enough. As far as jungle changes go, experience and gold has been reduced to the point that you don't lose out on much if any gold/XP from camps if you spam gank. And the keystone options again make anther group of junglers sub-optimal and unviable. Given all this, high damage junglers with dashs that run a spam-gank strat have flooded the meta.
Edit: There of course is also the obvious effects of all of this damage creep, that being more damage means more damage to towers. With all of this damage creep towers are just flat out dying faster. If we look at the changes to Warwick's pre-game-system damage above, we see its about +10 to 15 AD(not even counting items adding more AD which adds about +10 AD to my build by itself) and +4% AS. A considerable amount of AD added when considering items and rune changes. Of course some of it being on items means it doesn't show up right away, but even then it adds up quickly when it happens across the board to all champions because of runes and items. There's also the effect damage creep has on tower dives. With more damage, tower dives need less time to be successful as they have to be under tower less.
SOLUTIONS AND CLOSING
So given all this, what do we want Riot to do about all of this?
Well, for starters, the damage values in runes, save maybe keystones, needs to be toned back so that it closer matches damage output of old runes. This should help with the part of the problem that runes are causing.
As for the current jungler meta, some gold and xp needs to be given back to camps. Not much, but camps should always be the better gold generation for the jungler when considered alone(not necessarily highest gold generation for teams). As far as XP goes, it doesn't need to be the fastest way, but it should be comparable. What this aims to fix exactly is make counter-junglers or more passive jungler playstyles viable again. As for the rest of this problem, I believe it lies in damage creep(I mentioned that solution above), mobility creep(I will get to), and Keystone options(Riot is already working on making more).
As for mobility creep, I would suggest having Magical Footwear give +5 MS, with the full +10 MS getting acquired once upgraded. I would also suggest lowering Waterwalking's MS by 5, maybe compensating with health regen or more damage. With how often it can prock, Fleet Footwork probably doesn't need to be that effective of a MS tool, I'm not entirely sure how much it contributes to this problem, but changing it to a 25% MS buff or it's duration to 0.9s (not both) would probably help. Predator has an indicator of approach, so I want to say it's fine and Relentless Hunter might need a small nerf, but I'm hesitant to say so whole heartedly as MS is all it gives. Of course mobility creep still needs to be addressed in champions. I would suggest looking at some of the least mobile champs in the game like Dr. Mundo, Malphite, and Udyr when making new champs and think about how hard you want it to be for them to lock down the new champion.
I think the way the changes to the support role have played out has not been for the best. Part of what appealed to long-time support players and support mains was that they didn't have to focus on doing a lot of damage to be good. They could focus on timings, who to use it on, active items, some positioning, predicting the fight, and vision to contribute to the team. Bringing damage into that mix almost feels to me like ruining this beautiful thing Riot had where I could play a champion, doing almost no damage, yet I still felt like one of the biggest contributers to the game. Rakan was a good return to this non-damaging support concept. It's fine if you want there to be damaging supports bot-lane, but they need to be differentiated better and all playstyles should still be viable. On that note I think support scalings and base damage needs to be looked at, not necessarily changed across the board but decided on if they want people building damage or not on them, how much, and to make sure that the AP ratios for damage are fair when compared to how much AP you expect them to have for utility. I would also like to note with the balance of the gold generating items being pretty solid, it might be a good time to give supports some higher item costs with more stats. You could differentiate stat lines better this too this way(I think).
Springboarding off of supports for a second here, I think a lot of champions would benefit from relooking at which role you clasified them under, and whether they are differentiated enough to safely fit in that role. For example a lot of mages don't feel differentiated right now. Partially because of bad itemization, but also partially because of this burst damage meta. It's become less about poke vs burst vs artillery and more of who does the most damage right now. It should feel like I'm playing a definitively different playstyle if when I'm playing Veigar as opposed to Xerath. And as far as itemization goes for mages, it would be good to have an item specialized towards each subrole/subclass' specialty (an item meant for poke mages, an item meant for artillery mages, an item meant for burst mages) kind of like zeal items do for marksmen.
Back to where we started off from, I should probably address towers here too. I think the best solution for the paper towers would be to give towers an ability so that they take reduced effects from penetration(maybe not put it on the first turrets in each lane though). Towers also need to be compensated penetration, and armor based on the Tank update and preseaon changes. Lastly, I think base towers need to be given a bit more damage. They don't need all the damage back that they lost when they lost lasers, but there should be some turrets that make it harder to tank. Nautilus and Dr. Mundo shouldn't be allowed to tank a turret for a minute if they wanted, no champion should, so at least make that not possible in the base.
The ADC meta has a couple problems as well. Reducing gold cost on overall build was not the right solution to this problem. All that was give some ADCs a cost advantage, and allowed for earlier snowballing. Sure, zeal should be cheaper so they can get that earlier, but fully built items should not be cheaper. First blood gold should be reduced to at least 360 gold, if not 325 gold, with an assist bounty lowered to 165 gold. The point of first blood should be to incentive people to not farm up forever, and to try to get the game in motion quickly. It should give just enough gold to get them a basic item material and no more so that they have an obvious gold advantage they can press, but not so much that its insurmountable. Now, I say 370 gold because the champion should have at least some gold already, and the most expensive basic material is null-magic mantle. Specifically that they should have cleared at least one wave before backing, and assuming they only missed one minion, they should have at least 91 gold. 360+91=451 gold which is enough to buy null-magic mantle, and thus they can press the gold advantage off one kill. The assist value was lowered with partial proportion to kill value, and also max assist gold for regular kills. Likewise to first blood, first turret should offer the same minimal advantage so as to create an advantage, not a snowball. Outer turrets offer 100 global gold+ 250 local gold, first turret offers 300 local gold. Three people would earn 203 gold, 2 would earn 293 gold, 1 would earn 570 gold. I would instead change it to regular tower gold + 175 local gold + 125 global gold. With this change 1 player would earn 470 gold, 2 would receive 257 gold each, 3 would receive 186 gold each. Ends up about the same for more people involved, with the same team gold advantage, and less snowbally for single tower takedowns.
The neutral objective/jungle buff changes are causing some of this issue too. However all these objectives get a large portion of meaning from these buffs, and to nerf them too hard would make them almost meaningless. Obviously we don't want any of them to become old Rift Herald level of popular. So, I would say the solution for this part of the issue might just be a simple +50 HP to turrets(per row number, first gets +50, second gets +100, base gets +150) to allow for a little more time to respond to them and play around them.
All of this is what is causing these short games and unsatisfying feelings. I think I have laid out some good proof of this and some well thought out solutions. Hopefully this wasn't too much of a pain to read and the people that like the current meta/balance of league can at least see what others are complaining about and empathize a bit. Anyways, hope this explains the meta and what can be done to fix the things players have been complaining about for over a year now without any real attention. Maybe this will spur on some changes to find a middle ground between rewarding early advantage/plays; allowing comebacks; and reasonable, consistent game lengths.
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