World of Warcraft - Murloc Monday - ask your questions here!

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World of Warcraft - Murloc Monday - ask your questions here!

Murloc Monday - ask your questions here!

Posted: 04 Dec 2017 02:08 AM PST

Aaaaaughibbrgubugbugrguburgle! RwlRwlRwlRwl!
That's murloc for "Welcome to Murloc Mondays - where people can ask any type of question about WoW without getting Strangles by a Death Knight.
Questions can range from whats new in Legion, what class is OP, and how many Demons will it take to down Thrall?
Questions can come from brand new players, players returning, or veteran players who never got a chance to ask the right question.

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Life as a tank

Posted: 04 Dec 2017 04:32 AM PST

The difference is becoming way too serious.

Posted: 04 Dec 2017 09:14 AM PST

Low poly critters get thousands of upvotes, how many for our boys in green?

Posted: 04 Dec 2017 10:49 AM PST

WOWGIF: MRW I hear Khadgar is hiding out in Karazhan for BfA

Posted: 04 Dec 2017 10:00 AM PST

Someone left this on wal-mart's website as a review for Legion

Posted: 04 Dec 2017 12:17 PM PST

Well, he answered my question

Posted: 03 Dec 2017 09:48 PM PST

The raiding community be like

Posted: 04 Dec 2017 10:23 AM PST

Walking the Winterspring path, I just realized, they are wearing G-Stings.

Posted: 04 Dec 2017 06:39 AM PST

Patty Mattson, who voices Warchief Sylvanas Windrunner, also voices... Cheer Bear?!

Posted: 04 Dec 2017 09:36 AM PST

As alliance, feels weird to have invested 1 year plus of my time into two races that are going to be trying to kill me on sight soon.

Posted: 04 Dec 2017 08:15 AM PST

Speaking of updated models... the Evolution of the Wolf

Posted: 04 Dec 2017 01:28 PM PST

Battle for Azeroth Cinematic has a white grid that appears for a split second

Posted: 04 Dec 2017 09:00 AM PST

The biggest reason to get hyped for 7.3.5 people are forgetting about.

Posted: 04 Dec 2017 12:11 PM PST

They fixed Jaina's braid on the Battle for Azeroth page

Posted: 04 Dec 2017 12:27 PM PST

Dec. 5th Class adjustments.

Posted: 04 Dec 2017 12:15 PM PST

Remember that time Deathwing mated with the Badlands?

Posted: 04 Dec 2017 10:54 AM PST

Leggings of "unfinished conquest"

Posted: 04 Dec 2017 09:48 AM PST

Someone said weapons scale smaller for blood elf females, my fist weapons would like I word with you.

Posted: 04 Dec 2017 02:36 AM PST

The grid in the trailer was casted by a Gnome for aiming. Here the proof.

Posted: 04 Dec 2017 12:53 PM PST

This poor creature...

Posted: 03 Dec 2017 07:23 PM PST

One of the biggest bosses in Legion and he was gutted before we could even fight him.

Posted: 04 Dec 2017 05:44 AM PST

Google Translate Saves Raid

Posted: 04 Dec 2017 11:08 AM PST

So last week i managed to clear Antorus on normal on my prot pally. As soon as I logged in, i just pugged my way into raid and was summoned. By doing this I missed the legendary ring quest.... Well after completing the raid and doing the little quest line i realized i would have to go kill Argus AGAIN for the week. I pugged into a raid on Aggramar/Argus. Aggramar went off without a hitch but the tank left due to not believing in the DPS. (It was suspect, but i needed my kill so i stayed). We gathered another warrior tank and immediately realised he did not speak english. The raid leader was not aware as I always whisper my fellow tank and set up a whisper window for raid communication. I quickly realized he spoke little to no english and managed just enough to english to inform me he had never done the fight but knew the tactics. After the first pull, it was apparent he did not know the tactics(stacked on me to always get cleaved by scythe). After a wipe he sent something in whisper I did not understand. I dumped it into good translate and enough of it was translated to know he was asking about a buff and position. I translate instructions and sent to him and i guess it was accurate enough to stop the issue. After 2-3 wipes and translating our issues via google translate we eventually downed Argus. He thanks me immensely in broken English before leaving and it just goes to show that sometimes its not the player that is bad, it just takes some time and nice gestures and everyone can down the boss and move on.

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Paid for by the Society for the Protection of Elves

Posted: 03 Dec 2017 04:29 PM PST

Guardian vs Resto

Posted: 04 Dec 2017 01:22 PM PST

Lore: The Nightborne are NOT (Modern) Night Elves

Posted: 04 Dec 2017 12:06 AM PST

All right, so since the BfA announcement there has been a minor uproar over the Horde getting the Nightborne, instead of them staying neutral or going to the Alliance. Now, staying neutral would make sense, so I'm not going to touch upon that.

However, the general consensus seems to be that Tyrande "pushed" the Nightborne towards the Horde. This implies that if she had been a good diplomat, or simply not horrible, they would have joined the Alliance instead - either of political and ideological reasons, OR because they are Night Elves. I am going to adress the second option, which is wrong. Story time:

See, during the War of the Ancients, 10000 years ago, there was a single type of elves: Night Elves. However, culturally they were very different from the purple hippies we see today. They were a magocracy ruled by Queen Azshara, one of the mightiest spellcasters ever (her power level has been directly compared to Archimonde's). The ruling class were the Highborne, a sorcerous elite caste which drew powers directly from the Well of Eternity.

Two cities stuck out: Zin-Azshari and Suramar. Zin-Azshari was the capital that held the Well of Eternity, and where the Legion invaded from. Suramar held the Nightwell and Temple of Elune, and is the birthplace of Tyrande, Malfurion, Illidan and the Shadowsongs. During the war, the Highborne of Suramar raised the shield to protect the city, and sealed it off from the world for 10000 years. During that time period the elves within changed, physically, but not that much culturally. The only real difference is the addiction, otherwise the old Highborne society continued pretty much as normal.

Now, outside the walls, the Night Elves won the war. They were aided by a group of spellcasting Highborne, led by Dath'Remar Sunstrider, who had fled the palace in Zin-Azshari. After the war Malfurion put a ban on arcane magic, because the way he saw it, dabbling into the arcane was the reason the demons had been summoned in the first place. Instead, he changed the surviving Night Elves into a druidic society, relying on nature magic. (This is the reason the Arcan'dor was such a huge deal, combining the two.)

The Highborne, however, did not like this, and continued to cast spells covertly (addiction and all). After almost unleashing a magical catastrophe, they were exiled, and long story short, founded Silvermoon and Quel'thalas. They set up the Sunwell, began to walk around more during the day, and became the High Elves, who later would rename themselves the Blood Elves. Dath'Remar was their king, and his line ruled until we killed off Kael'thas Sunstrider.

Night Elf spellcasters (the Shen'dralar) have joined the Darnassian society later, but were generally disliked, and the other elves were very sceptical to them. AFAIK there is no lore on them after Cataclysm on how good they eventually managed to integrate into society, please correct me if I'm wrong.

So now we have three large groups of elves left: Night Elves, High Elves and Nightborne (and the much smaller Shen'dralar). The Night Elves are a quiet, druidic society living in the middle of Kalimdor. The High Elves are a large isolationist kingdom north in the Eastern Kingdoms, relying on addictive arcane magic and the Sunwell. The Nightborne are a locked in magocracy on the Broken Isles, relying on addictive arcane magic and the Nightwell.

The Night Elves are now very far removed from their old ways, which the Nightborne practice in all its glory, and the High Elves have a society which somewhat resembles it. So when the shield comes down, who are the Nightborne going to feel like they belong to? Hippies that hate arcane magic, or other elves almost just like them, sharing the same addiction, similar culture and core values, and who even mutated in a similar way?

My point is that the Nightborne are almost as separate from the modern Night Elves as the Blood Elves are. Their cultures (and even appearances) have diverged so much that they are no longer comparable to the Night Elves of the Alliance, and culturally much more similar to the Blood Elves. Therefore it makes much more sense for them to join their Blood Elf brethren, and continue to explore the arcane together, than to enter the "new" Night Elf society and become second-rate citizens behind the druids and priests.

TL;DR, teaming up with the Blood Elves (or staying neutral) was always the natural thing for the Nightborne to do, and it was not because Tyrande was mean to them.

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