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Dota 2 - Perfect World Masters Day 1 Match Discussions

Perfect World Masters Day 1 Match Discussions

Posted: 18 Nov 2017 02:50 PM PST

Perfect World Masters

Presented by Perfect World

Sponsored by Lenovo Legion, Samsung, SteelSeries, BLASOUL

Need info on the event? Check out the Survival Guide.

You can either Sort by new or use the Comment Stream.

Coverage: Liquipedia | JoinDota | GosuGamers

Streams: English 1 | English 2 | [Russian]() | Huomao | Douyu

Day 1: Sunday Nov 19 (Group Stage)

ID Team vs Team Result Cntdwn PST EST GMT CET SGT AEDT Format
A1 vs 10:00 18:00 21:00 02:00 03:00 10:00 13:00 Bo2
B1 vs 10:00 18:00 21:00 02:00 03:00 10:00 13:00 Bo2
A2 vs 12:30 20:30 23:30 04:30 05:30 12:30 15:30 Bo2
B2 vs 12:30 20:30 23:30 04:30 05:30 12:30 15:30 Bo2
A3 vs 15:00 23:00 02:00 07:00 08:00 15:00 18:00 Bo2
B3 vs 15:00 23:00 02:00 07:00 08:00 15:00 18:00 Bo2
A4 vs 17:30 01:30 04:30 09:30 10:30 17:30 20:30 Bo2
B4 vs 17:30 01:30 04:30 09:30 10:30 17:30 20:30 Bo2
A5 vs 20:00 04:00 07:00 12:00 13:00 20:00 23:00 Bo2
B5 vs 20:00 04:00 07:00 12:00 13:00 20:00 23:00 Bo2

Countdown times are in SGT. All times are subject to change based on the length of matches and delays.

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Midas Mode Day 2 Match Discussions

Posted: 19 Nov 2017 07:13 AM PST

Midas Mode

Presented by Moonduck

Sponsored by Antlion, ggbet, Bomb Sauce, Kennedy Space Center, Ginxtv

Need info on the event? Check out the Survival Guide.

See here for yesterday's results and VODs

You can either Sort by new or use the Comment Stream.

Moonbuck Balances

Team Starting of Day End of Day Matches Played Games Played
MidOrFeed 8430 M 1 2
Evil Geniuses 8000 M
Team Liquid 7500 M
OpTic Gaming 7500 M
Immortals 7500 M
VGJ.Storm 7500 M
OG 7350 M 1 2
Natus Vincere 5632 M 2 4

Hero Prices

Today's Bounties

Name Suggested By Bounty Explanation Completed By
All in /u/SatyrTrickster 300 M Buy a Divine Rapier before the 30 minute mark
A Game Of Chicken /u/shijjiri 300 M Move your courier into the Rosh Pit and announce "Cluck Cluck". The enemy team has 45s to kill the courier in the pit. Complete before the 3 minute mark. The courier cannot leave the pit or die
Black Friday Sale /u/ThreeStep 250 M Only pick heroes which are below 125M (No randoming allowed for this challenge)
No Leg Strat /u/Kadoodle958 250 M Draft must consist of 5 heroes that does not use their feet to move throughout the map.
Lack Of Rainbow /u/ForgottenToupee 250 M Your entire team must be themed in one color
Just Pick Techies 150 M Pick Techies
Greed Is Good /u/fire9lizard 150 M Get all 4 initial Bounty Runes
Secret Santa 125 M Before 10 minutes drop an observer ward, sentry ward, and TP scroll inside the Roshan Pit. Announce Happy Frostivus! To notify the enemy team.
Targeted Toxicity /u/Koooontz 100 M At the beginning of the game your captain names an enemy player. Whenever that enemy dies someone must flame them.
Tailgate Party /u/Pentt41207 100 M Pick 5 heroes that have taunt cosmetics. All 5 heroes must taunt together within vision of the enemy team before the horn blows.

Day 2 Suggestion Thread

Day 2 (Sunday Nov 19)

ID Team vs. Team Result Cntdwn (EST) PST GMT CET SGT AEDT Stream
M1 vs 13:00 10:00 18:00 19:00 2:00 5:00 Mdck
M2 vs 16:00 13:00 21:00 22:00 5:00 8:00 Mdck

Match 1: OpTic Gaming vs Evil Geniuses

Game 1 Winner:
Game 2 Winner:
Game 3 Winner:

Result:   1:0  

[VODs]()

Match 2: OpTic Game vs Immortals

Game 1 Winner:
Game 2 Winner:
Game 3 Winner:

Result:   0:0  

[VODs]()

Countdown times are in EST. Second series will start 30 minutes after end of first series. All times are subject to change based on the length of matches and delays.

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7.07c: Omniknight base intelligence reduced by 2

Posted: 19 Nov 2017 04:21 AM PST

Hey Moonduck. Now that its been established that Midas Mode is for charity, you should enable donations!

Posted: 19 Nov 2017 07:54 AM PST

everything about this tournament has been excellent and refreshing, even more so that the teams have decided to donate the winnings for charity. I think it would be a really cool thing for us as a community to do.

Obviously you would have to set it up so that its not as obnoxiously loud and big as some of the more popular streamers, but if anyone can do it you can! It's a great opportunity for us to do a lot of good!

Hope you guys see this.

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zai caught matchfixing

Posted: 19 Nov 2017 09:32 AM PST

Foor Puck

Posted: 19 Nov 2017 05:07 AM PST

Dota chat is still gold

Posted: 19 Nov 2017 07:51 AM PST

It's in my nature.

Posted: 19 Nov 2017 07:43 AM PST

Rubick permanently becomes an agility hero after he uses morph

Posted: 19 Nov 2017 05:28 AM PST

Black^ casting ��

Posted: 19 Nov 2017 01:27 AM PST

This is the first time I've heard him cast a game, and he's now my favorite analyst. He's into the match, constantly giving input, bubbly, versatile, and a good player. Invite more often. Much love

He's at https://www.twitch.tv/pgl_dota or second stream

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Midas Mode Bounty Suggestions for Day 3

Posted: 19 Nov 2017 09:50 AM PST

Hey Guys, please write another 2000 comments for us to slog through for day 3 of Midas Mode.

If you don't know what Midas Mode is, head here. Here is the thread for Day 2.

Are you guys curious about the current hero prices? You can now keep an eye on them throughout each day on our website.

Want to see team standings and how many moonbucks they've wasted? Check it out here. This page will be updated more in the future to have more details.

OKAY, now onto the suggestions. There are some major things to keep in mind when writing challenges like:

  • Simple is not always bad! Even something like 'Buy X item by X time' or 'Pick X hero' is great! Simple rewards or something you want to see. 'Rush Dagon after brown boots on any hero' could be fun to watch as well!

  • What would it take for a team to complete the challenge, how different would that be from a regular dota game, and would it be worth watching the teams go down that path on broadcast? Would it ruin the game? Is it fun watching a team farm 5 Meteor Hammers and then try to use them on enemies or would it produce an unfun game? (The answer is yes, that'd be terrible to watch)

  • Would a team ever attempt this challenge? If the challenge is too difficult they won't even attempt it as it'd greatly lower their chances of winning.

  • If the entire game becomes about 1 challenge, it's probably not a good idea. Teams ultimately should have winning sets in mind before thinking about winning moonbucks, so while you might think it's fun to force Arteezy to play with 0 items all game, he's not gonna do it.

  • Is this challenge extremely easy for an already winning team to accomplish? Would it be done as an after thought because they are sure of victory? (an example is the Sange/Yasha/Kaya challenge from Day 1, it was too easy for an about to win team to accomplish it). A good way to control challenges like these is to put a timer on them such as "Have a Sange, Yasha, and Kaya in your inventory before the 20 minute mark" that way teams have to commit to the challenge BEFORE they are likely assured victory.

  • Lots of challenges like 'cut down 500 trees' sounds fun, but we are not gonna monitor and count exactly how many trees are cut down, so try to avoid challenges that are very difficult to monitor for completion.

  • We generally like challenges where players have to type something, but make sure it's fairly straight forward to monitor, won't massively detract from the gameplay, and it's unusually cruel, bad mannered, etc. There are lots of fun ways to include strategic tells like the great 'WE'RE SMOKING' challenge, try to work something in like that.

Thanks for the help! I feel like we're running out of challenge creativity a bit, so try discussing some of your ideas with a group of your friends so that you can tell each other why your suggestions are faulty or bad. You should then be able to understand the true pain we at Moonduck experience when discussing challenge ideas with the moonduck group after the broadcast day.

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Did anyone miss this song ?

Posted: 19 Nov 2017 06:41 AM PST

Bloodstone "Begins with 16 charges"

Posted: 19 Nov 2017 12:14 AM PST

Kaya reduces mana burned but does not reduce damage dealt due to the mana burnt.

Posted: 19 Nov 2017 03:56 AM PST

According to each spell's text, AM's passive (mana break) should deal 50% of the mana burned as damage, and Diffusal blade should deal 0.8 physical damage per mana burned.

I have tried both against a hero with no items and a hero with kaya and the mana loss was indeed reduced but the damage was still the same as if no mana was reduced.

Diffusal - with kaya

Diffusal - without kaya

Antimage - with kaya

Antimage - without kaya

Edit: I may have worded the title incorrectly, the issue is not that kaya doesn't reduce the damage, it's that spells that burn mana should deal damage based on the mana burned, but this is not the case with kaya, the damage is always dealt at full as if the attacked hero had no kaya.

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I drew SF! In arcana form

Posted: 19 Nov 2017 02:41 AM PST

Why is noone talking about this beautiful set?

Posted: 19 Nov 2017 12:51 AM PST

Well done faceless void set! (by der_BESITZER)

Posted: 18 Nov 2017 10:32 PM PST

Ppd demolished EG holy shit

Posted: 19 Nov 2017 11:08 AM PST

Australian gives opinion to Day[9] on his meteor hammer purchase

Posted: 19 Nov 2017 03:45 AM PST

The Periodic Table of Dota 2 (updated)

Posted: 19 Nov 2017 05:18 AM PST

Valve believe you can put 20 people in 10 places

Posted: 19 Nov 2017 09:08 AM PST

Absolutely Useless DOTA Knowledge: Ranged creeps get knocked back when you kill them with a right click. Distance scales with the damage.

Posted: 18 Nov 2017 03:07 PM PST

Kawaii Venomancer!

Posted: 19 Nov 2017 01:11 AM PST

Kaya doesn't add to Arcane Orb's damage

Posted: 19 Nov 2017 12:58 AM PST

Same thing with intelligence-based spell amp, even though it shows arcane orb getting the damage increase in the tooltip.

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Secret and Cty Show us today how important Chat Wheel for the game.

Posted: 19 Nov 2017 02:32 AM PST

now can they bring back voice chat wheel plz

i miss that thing

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Check out our Frostivus Entry. We put a LOT of work into it.

Posted: 18 Nov 2017 10:23 PM PST

Midas Mode hero prices are the closest thing to an actual tier list that I’ve seen in like 20 patches

Posted: 19 Nov 2017 10:14 AM PST

Finally I at least have something to look at to remind me who's OP. Also why is there a general lack of hero tier lists in the Dota 2 community when patches stick around for such a long time compared to other games?

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