Super Smash Bros - Daily Discussion Thread 05/23/17


Daily Discussion Thread 05/23/17

Posted: 23 May 2017 12:09 AM PDT

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mango on westballz's playstyle and why he's struggling

Posted: 23 May 2017 02:17 PM PDT

Hungrybox's Melee Tier List

Posted: 23 May 2017 02:50 PM PDT

S: Fox

A: Falco = Sheik = Marth

B: Puff = Peach = ICs = Falcon

C: Samus = Pika = Luigi = Doc (?)

D: Mario = Yoshi = DK = Link = Young Link = Ganon

F: Mewtwo = Game & Watch

NESS: Ness

G: Zelda = Roy = Pichu

LOL: Bowser = Kirby

EDIT: DK in D tier

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Sooo I might have discovered something useful about Nana...

Posted: 23 May 2017 12:28 PM PDT

Hello! I am Hydroxy an Icies main from Sweden and I have maybe discovered something useful about Nana by accident.

I was generally just screwing around in training when I discovered that when Nana grabs the opponent in the middle of a middle platform (See album with markings) she will ALWAYS do a backthrow.

I have tried this in every competetive stage with a 100% success rate. Now it is possible that since I am playing on dolphin it might not work on a gamecube. But if it does I believe it might be a very useful tool for Icies mains. Just like predicting that nana will always throw her opponent offstage when close to the ledge.

Anyone with a gamecube and vanilla melee feel free to try this out and see if it works there too.

Personally I would be thrilled if this turned out to be guaranteed since predicting Nanas throw is a pain and having another gauranteed throw-pattern would definetly make reacting to her throws much easier.

Album: http://imgur.com/a/mthp6

Edit: This was apparently already known, my B

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SSB4 - Villager's Jablock Infinite with no Perfect Pivots (Tree-Assisted)

Posted: 23 May 2017 04:30 PM PDT

When Bowser turns on the jets (feat. the left side of Green Hill Zone)

Posted: 23 May 2017 06:39 PM PDT

RedBull Article: What the pros want from Smash Bros on Switch

Posted: 23 May 2017 08:56 AM PDT

This is How Captain Falcon is meant to be Played

Posted: 23 May 2017 06:02 PM PDT

When Locus Plays Bayonetta...

Posted: 23 May 2017 07:42 AM PDT

2GGC: Greninja Saga - IMT | ANTi (Mario) Vs. TSM | ZeRo (Lucina)

Posted: 23 May 2017 02:56 PM PDT

The Big House 7 venue "confirmed" | Cobo Center - Detroit Michigan

Posted: 23 May 2017 12:03 PM PDT

Tafo interviews Lucky on his injury, Norwalk, Mang0, and practice.

Posted: 23 May 2017 09:34 AM PDT

Help Team Japan make it to CEO 2017!

Posted: 23 May 2017 11:59 AM PDT

Hey everyone! Bear here.

In collaboration with 2GG, Bear, Dawangthang, & the CFL Smash 4 community, help get KEN, Komorikiri, Abadango, Ranai and Kameme to #CEO2017!

Go to the CEO 2017 Rewards Shop to donate or purchase some items to help raise funds to unlock Japanese players to go to CEO 2017!

https://smash.gg/CEO2017/Shop

We'll have more items to add soon as well, so if you have anything you'd like to see in the shop, let me know.

Thank you all in advance! Looking forward to CEO 2017, we're on track to be an S Tier ranking event per the PGstats Tournament Tier System to close out the PGR season!

All the best,

Bear

💪🐻💛

NOTE: We already raised $505 through previous fundraising efforts. Let's get Team Japan to CEO 2017 and help Raito bring his Duck Hunt to CEO 2017!

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RISE 3: Strive for the Moment (Melee montage of the best moments in 2016)

Posted: 23 May 2017 09:50 AM PDT

Live in Alaska? Haven't heard of Fightcade? Come to the biggest tournament of the year!

Posted: 23 May 2017 06:45 PM PDT

If for some reason you are from Alaska and somehow haven't heard of Fightcade II: Rise of the World Warriors -- definitely check it out! June 3rd at Kill Screen Arcade in Wasilla.

We're going to have Melee, PM, Sm4sh, SFV, Guilty Gear, Tekken 7, and tons of other stuff! Cash prizes, door prizes, etc.

For a $10 venue fee you get unlimited access to the arcade machines (no quarters necessary). $5 per game entry.

www.facebook.com/events/1850152808599989

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Kira's Official Melee Tier List - Part 3

Posted: 23 May 2017 10:17 AM PDT

Know Him Better - Amsah

Posted: 23 May 2017 10:44 AM PDT

Best place to buy/order a controller?

Posted: 23 May 2017 09:04 AM PDT

Just getting out of school and picking up net play. Figured I could use a decent controller and see a lot of threads about some sites selling shitty controllers. Any and all suggestions are appreciated.

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Apparently Dark Pit's side taunt alters z-axis

Posted: 23 May 2017 06:15 PM PDT

Here's a low quality gif of it. What do you think about it? Will it affect Dark Pit's meta?

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How does Ryu fit in the meta now?

Posted: 23 May 2017 08:02 AM PDT

Originally when Ryu came out he was seen as extremely good. Around mid 2016 people began to see his flaws and mediocre results and as a result his placing in tier list dropped. Now we see Ryu rise a bit with Locus and Darkshad on the rise along with other Ryus, where does he fit now?

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What if Luigi Had a Fidget Spinner In Smash Bros

Posted: 23 May 2017 12:15 PM PDT

Faliure of a Fox Player - Royal Flush Recap - Leffen

Posted: 23 May 2017 10:31 AM PDT

Mango's Marth with the Reverse Ken Combo on Lucky

Posted: 23 May 2017 08:13 PM PDT

NetPlay

Posted: 23 May 2017 07:48 PM PDT

I am new to NetPlay i have watched many tutorials, read many articles and have spoken to mods and i still can not seem to fix my problem. I am unable to connect to others and visa versa. For others in says they can not connect, when i click on connect nothing happens. I am running Dolphin 5.0 on a mac (i know this is not ideal). If anyone can point me in the right direction or help me out it would be greatly appreciated.

p.s I am sorry if this is posted in the wrong subreddit

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What do y'all think will be the fate of Lucina and Dark Pit come the next Smash Bros?

Posted: 23 May 2017 12:33 PM PDT

So, I could be wrong. Maybe I am. But if I were to guess which characters who were introduced in Smash For are on the chopping block come Smash for the Switch (and maybe 3DS, I confess to not knowing what the sales figures were for For the 3DS even though that's the only copy I own) it'd be Lucina and Dark Pit. Lucina for being a lesser clone of Marth, and Dark Pit for just not being a character many people expected or wanted as well as his similarity to Pit. Honestly, I hope that Lucina stays, both because I love her and because any game with Laura Bailey in it is a game I want, but given that the other new characters all bring something new and interesting mechanically speaking, I consider these two the most vulnerable.

Anyway, what do you think will happen? The three outcomes I see as being options are

  • 1-Dropped. They go the way of Snake, Wolf, Pichu, and Young Link (not listing the Ice Climbers here since they were only dropped due to hardware limitations and I expect their eventual return) and are never seen again outside of trophies. I see this as the most likely outcome with regards to Dark Pit, less so Lucina.

  • 2-They're buffed and tweaked to be mostly the same, but a bit more competitive, similar to how DLC fixed Mewtwo. This seems the most likely to me with Lucina, given her popularity outside of Smash and that her moveset and balance are her main detractions.

  • 3-They're overhauled and given completely new movesets to differentiate them even further from the characters they're partial clones of. This is what I'd most like to see happen, but given that they haven't changed Ganondorf from a Captain Falcon clone, even though said clone status was a last minute decision due to budget and time constraints and they had a completely different moveset in the works originally for Melee, I don't see it happening.

Your thoughts?

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