True Dota 2 - How to recover when roaming isn't working.


How to recover when roaming isn't working.

Posted: 27 Apr 2017 12:20 PM PDT

Sometimes I run into this problem as a Riki or BH. I hang out and harass mid, help my mid win the lane then start getting the bounty runes and make my way to the other lanes.

Sometimes the enemy is too tanky, we don't have the right disables, or maybe they are elusive. I am sitting at 10 minutes not level 6, all I've done is picked up a bunch of bounty runes and we only managed to get 1 or 2 kills. It feels like I just ran back and forth between lanes.

The laning stage is over and let's say I have an AM or someone that just wants to farm, we don't want to push into their territory. How do I get gold and xp besides picking up as many bounty runes as I can. I'm not strong enough to gank on my own, or the enemy is staying as five.

Do I save up for a midas? Do I follow my carry or core around just soaking up xp? How do I make myself useful? I usually am between 3.7-4k

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Using Midas on melee creeps?

Posted: 27 Apr 2017 03:45 AM PDT

Watching Kiev, I've now seen two pros use midas on the melee creeps while farming a wave (just now in the 3rd IG vs Mouz game), but I can't think of a single reason to use midas on the melee instead the ranged creep. When farming the lane it's less gold aswell as less xp in total (80xp per usage).
Anyone got an idea?
Edit: Ok, I just went back to the wiki and saw the ranged creeps actually do give more gold aswell (for some reason I just always assumed ranged gives more xp, melee gives more gold). So you are effectively trading around 10 gold for 80 xp when using Midas on melee instead of ranged creeps. The only useful comparison would be Tomb of Knowledge, which grants 3.3xp per gold spent, compared to 8xp per gold spent with the Midas interaction. So my question kind of rested on wrong premises.

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Why isnt Tranquil Boots Disassemble-able?

Posted: 27 Apr 2017 04:04 AM PDT

With the change to Tranqs building from WL instead of RoP it seems like the item would benefit supports greatly if you could disassemble them.

Just saw Boboka build tranqs but then have to sell it and re-buy all the items again seperately for Hood, Euls, and Travels. Its a build that made sense against magic heavy Mouz. Allowing disassemble would save supports, who generally dont farm much anyways ~450 gold. I suppose in this Midas patch it matters less but eh, seems like it would be a nice quality of life change.

Am I crazy? Is this broken? It just seems logical to provide supports that economic flexibility

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What is going on with VP.lil and his jungle IO?

Posted: 27 Apr 2017 01:52 PM PDT

Is this a valid strategy? Does it only work because the team knows how to play around it? Isn't it bad because IO can't get early bottle?

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Unconventional Phantom Lancer items?

Posted: 27 Apr 2017 02:27 AM PDT

I love PL as a pocket pick but his item builds feel so static. Difusal, manta, radiance, vlads, abysall, skadi, heart, butterfly, aghs, occasional crits. Does this cat have any niche item pick ups I'm missing? Suggestions/input?

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When are you picking sven for a line up?

Posted: 27 Apr 2017 08:01 AM PDT

Since 7.00 started my sven win rate has been slowly but surely declining. I've only played about 30 games on sven, but as a person that doesn't play a lot of rank he was my go to hero.

These days however (and I'll add, since the creep stacking change), I've not had such a positive win ratio with him. I'm currently sitting at 3.4k with a 70% winrate and often felt like I could pick the hero into most enemy line ups (bar the obvious counter picks) previous to 7.00.

Basically what I'm asking is what should I change in my build, or if I should be relying on another hero instead of for winning games?

https://www.dotabuff.com/players/148700195

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Wukong Euls?

Posted: 27 Apr 2017 10:18 AM PDT

I know you need a ton of other items. But does dropping an ult and then being able to give yourself 2.5 seconds of "you can't stop the ult by killing me" make sense?

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Miracle's Skillbuild in G1 VS Newbee

Posted: 27 Apr 2017 09:02 AM PDT

Miracle went for in my opinion, a rather unusual build of 4-3-1-1 in his lane against an SF.

Was wondering why Miracle wouldn't have put more levels into march for the extra farming efficiency, only reason that I can explain his skillbuild would be the kill potential on the SF that he was laning against.

Oh additionally his supports were Treant and Lion, Newbee had CM and NA if this is of any help.

Thoughts on his skillbuild?

edit: As pointed out by u/helsquiades, Miracle was on Tinker! Match ID: 3142741991

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MP's MoM Lycan

Posted: 26 Apr 2017 11:52 PM PDT

Secret's MP played him 2 out of 6 games in Kiev Major and it seemed to work so far.

I tried one game with the same build last night and it seems that with max feral impulse Lycan in his human form farms so much faster and is actually useful in teamfights.

What are your thoughts?

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Why Dark Seer isnt being picked in major?

Posted: 26 Apr 2017 04:02 PM PDT

Teams are saving strats or hero is bad atm?

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Why does it always seem like I get teamed with flaming idiots while the other team seems like the enemy is always coordinated

Posted: 26 Apr 2017 10:58 PM PDT

Yet another set of losing streaks, and another -500 MMR in about a month or so.

I feel like I have to play solo heroes like Arc Warden, Broodmother, Clinkz, etc. because I can't rely on my team to do ANYTHING at all. It's always some cancer lineup that smoke ganks and pushes fast and is always so coordinated against us, five cores with no vision, no detection, and usually at least two people flaming and laughing every time someone makes a mistake.

A level 20 Arc Warden with two core items + dust and wards and shit isn't as effective as you hope it would be.

I don't get it. No matter how hard I try I always get paired with Flanders or people who are just stupid. Like, Slark has SE and you saw him mid a few seconds ago. What do you do? Why, stay alone in their jungle of course! Or even better, push by yourself! Then proceed to flame and spam ping me because I didn't send my tempest double to help your out of position ass.

It's hard to even play ranked knowing that I probably lost before the game even started. My Dota buff ranking is a D right now because I lose so much more than I win, no matter how well I do.

Like, what the fuck am I supposed to do. I come back The next day, untilted, ready to kick some ass, then the same shit happens again. A Furion that soaks up farm but won't push. A last pick AM who goes offlane and gets a 30 minute battle fury. A supper you tried to carry or who won't buy support items.

Why can't I get teamed with people who actually know what the fuck they're doing. It's hard to win against Huskar, Slark, Silencer, etc. when everyone on your team thinks that no matter what happens it's someone else's fault they died and it's okay to flame all game.

I just want to win a fucking game this month. Is that really too much to ask?

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