Unlabelled Hearthstone - Hearthstone needs log-in bonuses permanently. This game is so expensive to play for a lapsed player that now I can't convince my friends to get back into the game.

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Hearthstone - Hearthstone needs log-in bonuses permanently. This game is so expensive to play for a lapsed player that now I can't convince my friends to get back into the game.

Hearthstone needs log-in bonuses permanently. This game is so expensive to play for a lapsed player that now I can't convince my friends to get back into the game.

Posted: 29 Mar 2017 02:00 AM PDT

After a certain point as Hearthstone players, we all realize it takes religious daily quest completion and $50+ per expansion to actually create decks using the new, exciting cards. A lapsed player will find that it actually takes $100 or more to get back into the game at the start of a new expansion if they missed the previous one. My friends aren't idiots; they know this is true. It's preventing them from getting back into the game, and I can't even blame them. It makes perfect sense.

Log-in bonuses need to stay in my opinion. They help deflate the obvious always-behind treadmill of trying to grind gold for the next expansion.

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With (3) 130+ Card Expansions coming out each year, Legendaries need to be easier to pull and they need to be cheaper to craft.

Posted: 29 Mar 2017 04:40 AM PDT

Legendaries are currently 1 in 20 packs, and cost 1600 dust to craft.

I think an appropriate change would be a 25% decrease, to 1 in 15 packs, and 1200 dust to craft.

I think this change would make everyone stop complaining.

Or another good idea as u/alecmunro suggested:

I think a simple solution here would be to increase the dust from disenchanting commons and rares. Make it 1/4 the crafting cost, just like epics and legendaries (10 for commons, 25 for rares). This works out well for a few reasons: It simplifies the rules a little bit, which we know Blizzard loves. It would increase the overall value of an average pack by around 25%, which seems to be in the desired range based on this thread (but is still lower than the estimates I've seen of the cost increase moving to 3 expansions per year) It would increase use of the crafting system, which I think is a plus for Blizzard and for more casual players. I know there are a lot of Epics used in fun decks that I would like to craft, but I tend to hoard my dust for more essential cards.

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Journey to Un'Goro Card Reveal: Spirit Echo

Posted: 29 Mar 2017 08:00 AM PDT

Thijs: "I totally agree with Forsen and I think it's really nice that he made this statement"

Posted: 29 Mar 2017 06:31 AM PDT

The card Paladin needs to make Galvadon viable...

Posted: 29 Mar 2017 07:45 AM PDT

To everyone out there who doesn't run Standard decks in Wild - you are appreciated.

Posted: 29 Mar 2017 05:04 AM PDT

All I want to do in wild is mess around with some weird meme decks using some old favourite cards. I just want a place to play palladin. I don't even mind losing regularly to your sincerely competitive Nzoth hunters.

It's just when you encounter a golden warrior with a legend cardback playing a standard deck list pirate warrior with no wild substitutions at RANK 20. Why friend, why. At the minimum add ship's cannon or something ffs.

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Trawl Brawl: A Mammoth of a New Year

Posted: 29 Mar 2017 09:05 AM PDT

Description: The party is here! Work together with another player to decorate the tavern and kickoff a grand New Year of Hearthstone.

Looks like the Party Crashers are back. You are matched with another player with a pre-made deck. The goal of the brawl is to decorate the tavern by spending 25 mana. However, at the start of every turn, each player summons a Party Crasher, so you have you'd better be quick.

Once you've decorated the tavern, things get a lot harder. A 5/85 Piñata Golem boss is summoned, your Hero Power becomes Deal 3 damage to the Piñata Golem, and Party Crashers are now 5/7's. You have to destroy the Piñata Golem to beat the brawl and get your pack. Hitting the Piñata gives useful spells.

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New Cards - Hearthside Chat: The Art of Journey to Un’Goro

Posted: 29 Mar 2017 10:03 AM PDT

In less than a week Mysterious Challenger rotates out of Standard...

Posted: 29 Mar 2017 05:25 AM PDT

...and nobody gives a damn. Feels like it was yesterday when everyone was complaining about the card.

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PSA: 50 Gold now available as part of the Year of the Mammoth daily rewards

Posted: 29 Mar 2017 12:00 AM PDT

Log in now and get your 50 gold for free.

PlayHearthstone released this nifty image to help you know what's upcoming.

Date Reward
March 29 50 Gold
March 30 Mean Streets of Gadgetzan Pack
March 31 100 Gold
April 1 Whispers of the Old Gods pack
April 2 Journey to Un'Goro pack
April 3 50 Gold
April 4 Journey to Un'Goro pack
April 5 Golden Volcanosaur
April 6 (Un'Goro Release???)
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Tournament results of best earning Hearthstone players.

Posted: 29 Mar 2017 03:45 AM PDT

In his recent stream Reynad brought up an interesting topic: how do Hearthstone viewers judge who the best player is? Reynad makes the point that the perception of skill is highly influenced by the casters. His argument is that most professional players are on the same skill level and the outcome is predominately determined by luck and not skill. Since this makes it hard for the casual viewer to judge the skill of a player the viewer adopts the opinion of the caster . Many of those who regularly watch Hearthstone likely agree with this sentiment, at least a bit. Hearthstone is without a doubt a high variance game and playing perfect does not guarantee success.

Check out the particular segment of his stream

Reynad's example here is Kolento who had a good streak early in his career which cemented his role "as best player" for many viewers. According to Reynad, the biggest part of that was not skill but luck. Reynad argues most, if not all players on the top are equally good and "being better" only offers an insignificant edge. Reynad makes a point here that this is not a particular jab at Kolento but that all players are subject to luck and that he talked about Kolento because he was regarded as the best for a major part of early competitive Hearthstone. He specifially mentions casters like Frodan and that those casters hyped Kolento to the point that it became common sense that he is the best despite not being above others skill wise.

Reynads quote:

... the only thing viewers have to go one wheter to decide if a player is good or not is what the casters say about them so this is why Kolento was considered. Btw Kolento is a great player he is on the same level as like you know the other pros, Iam not saying he is not. But like the reason that viewers thought Kolento is the best player in the world for such a long time was yes he had his really strong like three month run, he had a really good run back then in tournaments better than anybody up until that point. Iam really good with jungler I guess. So Kolento had a really good run but then the reason for three years people thought Kolento is the best player in the world was because Frodan and the other casters just said he was the best player in the world, in their casts. Over and over and over again. So there came a time when Kolento started misplaying not just misplaying he started getting less lucky and he wasn't winning as many tournaments but then the narrative of him being the best player in the world persisted through that you know.

I was surprised by his argument because I also consider Kolento one of the best, so I thought I might add some data to this discussion. Interestingly Reynad ranked himself as top 20 in terms of skill because his skills deteriorated due to inactivity in 2014 he would have rated himself Nr1 in terms of pure skill. For the rest of the time, he argues that he likely was top 10 in the world skill wise. He also argues his tournament results are not reflective of his skills due to reasons explained above.

Reynad on how he ranks himself:

If you are going to rank players, again which is completely fucking irrelevant to who is gonna win the tournament, if we are going to rank players I would put myself still in the top 20 right now. Ya know . Two years ago I put myself top 10 , 2014 early 2014 I would put myself at Nr1, not anymore but early 2014. Ya know bring out your fucking lols.

How did I try to add data?

I have tried to compile a table of all major players and their "performance". The table is sorted by tournament earnings which in itself might not be the best indicator because the number gets easily warped by single big wins. Winning a major tournament will catapult you into the top 10. I used the list from e-sports earnings. Then I counted all appearances in major tournaments and victories for the competitor. I used wiki.teamliquid for this. This method is not perfect because some Asian players don't even have pages there and it was very hard to find reliable data for Asian players. Local Asian tournaments and their results are maybe not even listed on Western sites. Keep that in mind. I marked many of those players with "?". This gap in data results in pretty high win ratios for Asian players which might also warp the list. It is possible only their major victories are listed on Western sites. You might want to disregard the Asian entries especially the lower ranking ones because data for them is unreliable. For Western players, this list should be rather accurate.

Rank Player Name Real Name Earnings Tournaments Wins
1 Pavel Pavel Beltiukov $286,414.43 14 4
2 Firebat James Kostesich $220,053.10 37 6
3 DrHippi Artem Kravets' $200,166.67 8 2
4 Thijs Thijs Molendijk $188,989.49 46 6
5 Staz Euneil Javiñas $157,172.89 5 3
6 Jasonzhou Zhou, Bin $139,154.57 ? 2
7 Tiddler Celestial Wang, Xieyu $138,681.67 14 1
8 Kolento Aleksandr Malsh $135,855.06 40 8
9 Lifecoach Adrian Koy $135,530.19 40 6
10 Orange Jon Westberg $132,550.04 35 5
11 Ostkaka Sebastian Engwall $129,566.59 20 1
12 Rdu Dima Radu $116,854.24 45 4
13 Dawn Jang, Hyun Jae $111,877.04 ? 1
14 Che0nsu Kim, Cheon Su $104,215.00 ? ?
15 Xixo Sebastian Bentert $102,025.65 38 5
16 LiBo Li, Bo $100,759.37 5 1
17 Lovelychook Zhang, Bohan $99,300.78 8 2
18 SilverName Vladislav Sinotov $94,964.54 5 1
19 handsomeguy Kang, Il Mook $92,479.00 8 2
20 StrifeCro Cong Shu $89,064.27 34 6
21 Amnesiac William Barton $87,000.00 9 1
22 Cydonia Julien Perrault-Harvey $83,485.59 6 2
23 SuperJJ Jan Janßen $76,943.68 22 4
24 HotMEOWTH Edwin Cook $75,250.00 ? 1
25 fr0zen Frank Zhang $74,440.59 9 1
26 OmegaZero Zheng, Lin $71,007.87 ? 1
27 Dog David Caero $70,317.89 24 1
28 Naiman Ole Batyrbekov $64,272.53 9 1
29 Hamster Zhao, Songyang $62,721.86 ? 1
30 ShtanUdachi Alexey Barsukov $60,916.67 4 1
31 BunnyHoppor Raphael Peltzer $59,662.73 5 0
32 Icefox Feng, Xiao $59,309.90 12 1
33 Ek0p Jan Palys $58,845.50 33 4
34 Hotform Dylan Mullins $55,000.00 3 0
35 DDaHyoNi Baek, Sang Hyeon $52,186.00 2 1
36 Tarei Jeffrey Liu $51,104.40 5 1
37 Savjz Janne Mikkonen $50,734.44 24 3
38 Tidesoftime Drew Biessener $50,449.60 17 2
39 Sword Heyang, Li $50,120.72 7 1
40 Breath Yuxiang, Chen $50,110.03 7 1
41 Gaara Petar Stevanovic $50,059.59 36 1
42 Chakki Keaton Gill $49,938.22 13 2
43 Yulsic Ng, Chun Pong $47,500.00 ? ?
44 MagicWind Guoyi Zeng $46,339.01 11 2
45 Trump Jeffrey Shih $46,237.50 20 2
46 ZhangBo Zhang, Bo $45,257.30 6 2
47 tom60229 Chen, Wei Lin $41,905.00 10 3
48 Hoej Frederik Høj Nielsen $39,843.38 18 2
49 Neirea Yevhenii Shumilin $39,314.92 18 0
50 Surrender Kim, Jung Soo $38,048.24 13 1
51 StanCifka Stanislav Cifka $37,764.98 19 2
52 Crane Simon Raunholst $37,126.12 7 1
53 XHope -, - $36,653.29 ? ?
54 Kranich Hak Jun, Baek $36,557.76 11 1
55 Amaz Jason Chan $36,154.15 23 2
56 Flurry Cho, Hyun Soo $35,230.80 ? 1
57 lvxiaobu Yuan, Lin $34,603.12 ? 1
58 Zoro Hong, Yijie $34,227.13 6 1
59 AKAWonder Esteban Serrano $31,980.33 8 2
60 Aaron Aaron Koh $31,449.44 3 0
61 Caster Park, Jong Chul $31,168.00 ? 2
62 Zalae Paul Nemeth $30,466.67 20 2
63 Powder Harald Gimre $30,181.54 21 1
64 Robin -, - $29,899.41 3 1
65 Greensheep James Luo $29,881.89 10 1
66 Pinpingho Ho, Kwo Ping $29,813.91 ? 1
67 Mryagut Tugay Evsan $29,144.40 5 1
68 PurpleDrank Ryan Murphy-Root $28,750.00 10 2
69 Lvge -, - $28,469.19 ? ?
70 Cipher Gareth Rouse $27,106.35 14 0
71 LoveCX -, - $26,514.69 7 2
72 SjoW Jeffrey Brusi $26,498.61 19 1
73 Reynad Andrey Yanyuk $26,485.12 19 0

As you see most players at one point have won a major tournament. Kolento apparently has won the most of them which would support the general opinion of the time that Kolento was the best. So if the casters at the time were the reason for this perception they at least based this on results. There are several interesting players on the list. Pavel sticks out with 4 major victories in only 14 tournaments which all were highly competitive. The list also reveals some maybe underrated players who hardly get attention: Xixo has won 5 and earned a good amount of money while hardly getting talked about. As pointed out earlier some Asian players are highly ranked with very high win percentage but I don't know in how often they competed.

Some notable high tournament win percentages. I excluded Asian players, due to my inability to get full data, and low participation numbers. This list is not complete, just some notable entries.

Player Overall participations Tournament ratio
Cydonia 6 33,3%*
Pavel 14 28,75%
DRhippi 8 25%
AKAwonder 8 25%
ShtanUdachi 4 25%
Kolento 40 20%
Superjj 22 18,18%
Strifecro 34 17,65%
Firebat 37 16,22%
Chakki 13 15,38%
Lifecoach 40 15%
Orange 35 14,29%
Xixo 38 13,16%
Thijs 46 13,04%

High win rate with many tournaments is obviously more impressive on the first glance. The likes of Lifecoach, Kolento, Striefro, Firebat, Xixo and Thijs brought in results over a long period of time. Pavel is the major newcomer to the scene with his first major in 2016 displays an enormous win rate which gets even more impressive if we consider that his wins happened in high profile tournaments. If he will display the same consistency like others in this list remains to be seen.

  • Cydonias record includes a qualifier where the first place wasn't played out.

The unlucky ones

Only 6 players seem to have not won a major tournament of which 3 have participated in an insignificant number of tournaments and can be disregarded. Reynad is one of 3 players on this list who have never won a major tournament despite attending more than 10 of them . Obviously, this maybe played a part in Reynads opinions about the relevance of competitive results.

Because Reynad made an example of Kolento I looked on both of their matches in those tournies and added them up to get a win percentage. I also looked on other relevant histories. Reynads specific quote on the matter:

In a game of Hearthstone, results are completely fucking random among pro players and if you dispute that you just don't understand how the game works. That's just the case. Like yes, the win percentage goes up for somebody that practises alot but not by any relevant amount. Like, randomness outweighs skill so much, it is not even like an arguable point by anybody that understands pro play in that game. So, for the results are basically random.

I got the following win percentages:

Player Win percentage
Pavel 62,2%
Kolento 61,3%
Neirea 56,25%
Cipher 47,7%
Reynad 44,4%

I added the two other players who were unable to snatch a victory ( 10+ attempts) and I added the highest earning player Pavel. Interesting here is that Reynads assumption about the "edge" seems to be incorrect. While it is likely true that many games of Hearthstone are decided by luck there seems to be a skill component which is significant. A player like Kolento seems to perform better under competitive situations than Reynad and it is hardly close. Here it becomes even more pronounced if we factor in that a player like Kolento will get his win percentage decreased by advancing farther in tournaments and meeting stronger opponents, while Reynads percentage looks very low even tough he likely played weaker opponents on average simply by dropping out earlier. The difference of 17% is likely underrepresented due to this. The other two players add some perspective that even of those without victory Reynads performance is weaker. Interesting is Neirea who I personally always considered a strong player, at least "subconscious" this was my opinion. His win percentage seems to support that point despite the lacking breakthrough.

It seems ironic but given the nature of tournaments of 2015 and 2016 I assume Pavel had easier opponents on average compared to Kolento. The coin flippy nature of the game means that invite only tournaments of 2015/16 often included stronger players than open tournaments of late 2016 even including the World Championship. But that is up for debate.

It appears that the tournament earnings are stronlgy correlated with streaming numbers: A well-known streamer got many invited and earned more money due to the volatile nature of the game.

Reynads claim that he was the best player in 2014 is obviously a bold one and is hard to prove, his results in 2014 seem to contradict this claim. He attended 7 major tournaments and his biggest achievement was to advance to the semis one time. Kolento in the same time frame was able to win two high profil tournaments and several minor ones.

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Sjow takes Forsen's spot in the HGG

Posted: 29 Mar 2017 09:16 AM PDT

New Druid Spell Card: Evolving Spores!

Posted: 28 Mar 2017 07:03 PM PDT

If this is not the sound I hear when I turn in a Quest, I'm going to be so pished

Posted: 28 Mar 2017 09:15 PM PDT

Paladin quest should read "Cast 6 spells on friendly characters" instead of "minions"

Posted: 29 Mar 2017 04:47 AM PDT

It looks borderline useless now since most paladin buff cards are expensive and clunky. Adding 2 mana tax to everything in case you lose board control is not helpful either. This would make cards like Holy Light, Lay on Hands and Forbidden healing very helpful. Might even need to increase spell number to 8 or so.

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Un'goro pre-purchase €45 - Overwatch €40

Posted: 28 Mar 2017 12:10 PM PDT

How is this rational, could someone explain? Overwatch is one of the best games of Blizzard, they spent years on it and the price is €40. On the other hand, 50 packs of Un'goro (which is not even a complete expansion by the way, you can simply just get dick from those packs) is €45.

A pack costing 100 in game gold is totally fine, but in case of real money, it's unreasonably(if there is such a word) expensive.

Edit: wow frontpage!!! Blizzard please some support for the colorblinds. I cannot tell the freaking reno or kazakus will work or not.

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Daily Log In Rewards (Suggestion)

Posted: 29 Mar 2017 09:22 AM PDT

The increase in cards is going to be a huge burden on the f2p player to keep up. So I suggest blizzard implement something along these lines.

  • Day 1: 10 dust

  • Day 2: 10 gold

  • Day 3: 50 dust

  • Day 4: 50 gold

  • Day 5: 1 pack from the latest expansion

  • Day 6: 2 packs (Any)

  • Day 7: 1 random legendary

  • Day 8: Packs are 10% cheaper forever (Gold and dollar purchases)

  • Day 9: A free year of WoW subscription

  • Day 10: Ben Brode's firstborn child

  • Day 11: All the hearthstone content (now and forever) unlocked for free.

  • Day 12: Ability to convert gold and dust into highschool popularity

  • Day 13: The ability to cast magic in real life (No necromancy)

  • Day 14: Two sexy goblin manservants (Manuel and Pablo)

  • Day 15: 15 dust

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Kripp plays Millhouse Manastorm in 80g Friendly Battle

Posted: 28 Mar 2017 08:33 PM PDT

Thijs vs Yogg

Posted: 29 Mar 2017 04:31 AM PDT

Hey Reddit, I made a Coin-necklace out of Silver, its far from perfekt but i want to show it to you anyway!

Posted: 29 Mar 2017 09:11 AM PDT

here is the Imgur link... its my first post so i hope its working:

http://imgur.com/gallery/Zp8Ag

its 925/- silver with a Topaz, i know its supposed to be golden but Brass is ugly and Gold is expensive... so you could say that its kind of a counterfeight coin =P

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Thijs will reveal a card at 5 PM CET.

Posted: 29 Mar 2017 04:16 AM PDT

He confirmed it on his stream

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Galvadon is hiding in the Paladin quest art

Posted: 28 Mar 2017 04:41 PM PDT

At Akihabara Station...

Posted: 29 Mar 2017 01:06 AM PDT

The Last Kaleidosaur (The Legendary Paladin Quest) - Hearthhead's Exclusive Journey to Un'Goro Card Reveal

Posted: 28 Mar 2017 12:00 PM PDT

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