Super Smash Bros - Metagame Mumunmunundsday 175 - Weekly Smash Q&A Thread


Metagame Mumunmunundsday 175 - Weekly Smash Q&A Thread

Posted: 20 Feb 2017 01:26 AM PST

Hey all, welcome to Metagame Monday! For anyone who doesn't know the drill, this is a place where you can ask any question about Super Smash Bros. Seriously, anything! We firmly believe there are no stupid questions. We just ask that you put your questions under the appropriate comment below.

Link to last week's MGM Thread.

If you don't mind, would you guys also take a look at last week's Metagame Monday thread to see if any questions went unanswered there? New questions should go here, but I know we have some stragglers' questions that don't get answered each week.

Also be sure to check out our IRC chat! It's a great place to hang out and talk about smash IN REAL TIME.

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Daily Discussion Thread 02/20/17

Posted: 19 Feb 2017 11:17 PM PST

Welcome to the Daily Discussion Thread series on /r/smashbros! Inspired by /r/SSBM and /r/hiphopheads's DDTs, you can post here:

  • General questions about Smash

  • General discussion (tentatively allowing for some off-topic discussion)

  • "Light" content that might not have been allowed as its own post (please keep it about Smash)

Other guidelines:

  • Be good to one another.

  • While DDT can be lax, please abide by our general rules. No linking to illegal/pirated stuff, no flaming, game debates, etc.

  • Please keep your meme spam contained to the sticky comment provided below.

If you have any suggestions about future DDTs or anything else subreddit related, please send them our way! Thanks in advance!

Also, if you want to chat with other /r/smashbros users you can do so via our Discord channel.

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Alex19 just made his 1500 sub goal!

Posted: 20 Feb 2017 12:02 PM PST

https://clips.twitch.tv/mach1alex19/DarkElkPuppeyFace

we think we saw tears! he's still streaming right now at twitch.tv/mach1alex19

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$100 Bounty: Video Proof of the Ness Super YoYo Glitch

Posted: 20 Feb 2017 04:54 PM PST

Hey everyone, I was discussing over on /r/SSBM on whether or not the SYYG is something still worth looking into. To new players, the rumored glitch is a YoYo Glitch that "permanently" leaves the jacket on Ness. With nothing but a smashboards post about it, there is no actual video evidence of this glitch ever existing.

Link to Smashboards post: https://smashboards.com/threads/super-yoyo-glitch.97770/

Rumor has it that some people have seen it in action, but nobody has been able to recreate it.

That being said, I am willing to offer $100 to the first person who is able to find and recreate the SuperYoYo glitch on video. If the initial proof is found in 20XX or 20XXTE, then it must also be able to work in regular Melee (of any version) in order to be deemed a real Melee glitch.

Once validated by the community I will gladly contact the person who wins, and post proof of the payment. If nothing can be found by 2018, then I believe it is best to conclude that there is no Super YoYo Glitch that can be reasonably found and the bounty will be called off.

While highly unlikely that anything will be found, I still believe something like this can motivate players to look into it, and maybe even solve one of Melee's strangest phenomenons. Thank you for your time.

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ZeRo ends ESAM's career

Posted: 20 Feb 2017 03:52 PM PST

Mang0 gets a sacred combo on stream

Posted: 20 Feb 2017 04:46 PM PST

Did Armada create Beast to create a steady flow of income for himself?

Posted: 20 Feb 2017 04:29 AM PST

If so, he's not only the best Melee player but also an excellent investment strategist

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The Moon & DJ Nintendo on Primetime TV (Elementary)

Posted: 20 Feb 2017 04:57 PM PST

New G&W Tech! The Trumpoline! This is really cool!

Posted: 20 Feb 2017 07:27 PM PST

It's Official. No one plays Dark Pit.

Posted: 20 Feb 2017 06:28 AM PST

It's official. No one plays Dark Pit. Only 55 games out of 18,235 include Dark Pit. 0.3% of competitive Sm4sh sets. Original Tweet.

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Let's help Smash grow together!

Posted: 20 Feb 2017 11:59 AM PST

A wonderful day to you, Smash players, TOs, fans, and community, it's me again, Tim, but I go by Minitimmy3. I got the okay from the Mods, so I'd like to talk to you all for a bit, if you'll hear me out. You may not know me, not that you should, but I'm that guy/idiot that donated $12,000 to Summit. It all started kind of harmless, with a little push from HFam, I put some donations towards Summit. However, as time progressed, and as word was spread, people started to get more into Summit. This sparked something in me, an urge that I've had for the 9 years I've been following Smash. That urge, is to help the community grow. This is a wonderful community, one unrivaled by any, because we have to work together to make things happen, and that's amazing. We, together, have produced the largest pot winning in the history of Smash, that's insane! You all have yourselves to thank for that, whether you donated, told a friend, or anything, you all made that possible. Now, getting back to helping the community grow, I've been on a bit of a quest, to support the top players of Smash, by stopping by their streams, donating, subbing, and so on. As great as this experience is, I want to do so much more. I want to create new opportunities for new players, as well as old ones. I want to see the pots bigger, events crazier, and more packed. I want players and streamers of the game to feel that it's fine if they want to make a living off this thing that they love, because they know that they'll be alright if they do. As I donated more and more to Summit, more and more people became influenced, and joined in. This can be our spark as a community, this can be our chance, to build off what many people like Nova, GimR, everyone, has given us. I'll sure as heck help, but I can't do this alone, no one can, so I need your help, current and future players need your help. Go and support your favorite Smasher, whether by donation, our telling a friend, don't be afraid! If everyone pitched in, we can start something amazing in this community. Of course, there are some that can't or don't have the opportunity to do so, and that's where people like me come in, those that are fortunate enough to support the game. I'll support on behalf of those that can't donate or things like that to the community, but there's still so much that you CAN do. Guys, I just want to give back to the community, the game, the players, that have given so much to my life, and I'm sure there are tons of you that feel the same! I want this game, players, community, to rise up, and go down as a legend, that's all. I appreciate you all taking the time to listen to me ramble, share this link if you'd like, help spread the word that we CAN help and change this community and game, and until next time! -Minitimmy3

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The magic gets 0-deathed by mang0's marth.

Posted: 20 Feb 2017 10:42 AM PST

TIL Armada tied Ken's record of big tournaments won in a row (Just counting tournaments he attended), by winning beast 7.

Posted: 20 Feb 2017 05:57 AM PST

Eclipse 2, Canada Cup, Smash Summit 3, DH winter, UGC, G4 and beast 7.

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My friend made a site for fake smash news..

Posted: 20 Feb 2017 06:19 PM PST

The secret is out about GRTr4sh.

Posted: 20 Feb 2017 04:35 PM PST

2K retweets for Marvel-styled posters of each player in the Civil War Crew battle by SPIFspace!

Posted: 20 Feb 2017 05:18 PM PST

https://twitter.com/SPIFspace/status/833843740942950400

It would look pretty sick, let's make it happen :]

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ESAM ROASTS TEAM ZERO AND TEAM ALLY (Civil War)

Posted: 20 Feb 2017 02:05 PM PST

Jebailey on selling the FGC to sports investors: 'Now might be a better time than ever to take a chance on us'

Posted: 20 Feb 2017 08:49 AM PST

"I know it's not true"

Posted: 20 Feb 2017 09:08 AM PST

The pre BEAST 7 stream was just as lit as the tourney - Isai making Samus look viable.

Posted: 20 Feb 2017 03:34 PM PST

In the 2016 Miom top 100, 9 of them currently play sm4sh,17 Play PM

Posted: 20 Feb 2017 12:33 PM PST

sm4sh hbox,m2k,wizzrobe,nintendude,chudat,amsa,smashgod,esam, pewpewpu PM,HBOX,m2k, westballz,axe,wizzrobe, s2j,lucky,prof,amsa,abate, esam, fuzzyness, mojo,redd, kels, Llod, bladeswise SHall correct if incorrect, it was just interesting to note as i many schedules get melee top 32 and sm4sh 32 overlapping so i wondered if at a major this would effect anyone. also i looked through the smashwiki to double check, just to clarify i did meant to say Played PM/sm4sh in 2016 and a lot of that came from Smash N splash and Low tier city, also Shall add N0ne as he did enter genesis 3 PM side event,also MRLZ did mention something about playing Wizzrobe in PM in 2016

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Did anyone catch the Elementary episode last night with The Moon?

Posted: 20 Feb 2017 07:58 AM PST

I totally forgot about it with all the BEAST 7 action going on :(

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For those who aren't aware, VGBC is coming to Dubai, the UAE, next month! I made a highlights video of our previous 2 monthlies to help showcase some local plays.

Posted: 20 Feb 2017 07:35 PM PST

Frostbite pools have been released!

Posted: 20 Feb 2017 02:13 PM PST

Mang0 Stream Highlights from his Genesis 4 set against Leffen

Posted: 20 Feb 2017 07:03 PM PST

Should Cloud be banned in doubles?

Posted: 20 Feb 2017 05:54 PM PST

Cloud seems to have killed/is killing character diversity in Smash 4 doubles. It seems more and more that doubles revolve around Cloud, but I'd like to hear other's thoughts on this. Should he be removed for the sake of team diversity?

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Move Tier List #1: Jab (Results)

Posted: 20 Feb 2017 10:11 AM PST

Greetings, fellow Smash redditors! The results are now in!

Jab Tier List Complete

To explain the process of how I completed the list, here's what I did. One of the creators of the Smashboards move tier list (u/ARGHETH) helped create a template for me to edit and do the math. BTW, if you're here, thank you so much for the template!

In order to do the math, I took the amount of votes to a specific letter and multiplied it by the corresponding number.

S: 6

A: 5

B: 4

C: 3

D: 2

E: 1

F: 0

After that, I added those numbers to get a sum, and then I divided that sum by the number of total responses (130) to get a mean. To get a more approximate total, I rounded every single mean to the nearest whole number, and the character will appear in the tier that corresponds to what the mean rounds to.

Here's a link to the spreadsheet.


Now for some notes:

  • Characters are explicitly ordered within their tiers because of this whole system regarding the respective means.

  • Several character pairs are exactly tied. There are three to be exact: Mewtwo/Corrin, Charizard/Lucas, and Cloud/Bayonetta.

  • No E or F tiers! :)

Now for some of my thoughts:

  • Strange to see Mario and Ness so far apart considering their jabs are functionally very similar.

  • Samus is strikingly low.

Thanks to all of you who participated! The next discussion will take place this Wednesday, and it will cover Forward Tilt!

EDIT 1: Access to the spreadsheet should now be available.

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