Super Smash Bros - Daily Discussion Thread 08/14/18


Daily Discussion Thread 08/14/18

Posted: 14 Aug 2018 12:09 AM PDT

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Retro pixel art of all of the Super Smash Bros. Ultimate characters

Posted: 14 Aug 2018 01:57 PM PDT

The teams are ready, now who will win?

Posted: 14 Aug 2018 10:05 AM PDT

What really should return in Smash Ultimate

Posted: 14 Aug 2018 02:16 PM PDT

My friend is the Mewtwo

Posted: 14 Aug 2018 06:17 PM PDT

Smash can finally be a real fighting game!

Posted: 14 Aug 2018 07:04 AM PDT

You just need to play a stamina mode Ryu ditto on hazardless Colosseum with Final Smash Meter on and items off!

What a time to be alive

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Falco's speech slowly gets more dignified

Posted: 14 Aug 2018 12:58 PM PDT

"POHYSONALLY, I PREFEH DEH AIR" -Brawl

"Personally, I prefer the air." -Sm4sh

"Lo, how I prefer the heavens above to the ground beneath." -Ultimate

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Why all the characters are burned by holy water

Posted: 14 Aug 2018 02:10 PM PDT

So I was like wondering why Simon's Holy Water burns every character, because there'd be no reason other than every single character will burn in hell. So I tried my best to find one sinful thing every character has done to deserve the purifying third degree burns of the almighty.


Mario - Possesion

Donkey Kong - Kidnapping

Link - Destruction of property

Samus - Genocide

Dark Samus - Murder

Yoshi - Tax fraud

Kirby - Live consumption of animals, Identity theft, Destruction of planets, Arson

Fox - Insubordination

Pikachu - Tasering innocent civilians

Luigi - Gambling

Ness - Animal abuse, Assault with sports equipment

Captain Falcon - Bounty hunting

Jigglypuff - Graffiti

Peach - Possession of fungus-like slave

Daisy - Assault with sports equipment

Bowser - Kidnapping

Ice Climbers - Freezing others in spacetime, Wobbling, Animal abuse

Sheik - Unauthorized use of explosives

Zelda - Literally deleting people with the triforce lol

Dr. Mario - Biological warfare

Pichu - Self harm

Falco - Insubordination

Marth - Murder

Lucina - Time traveling

Young Link - Use of explosives, Trespassing, Deity & spirit possession

Ganondorf - Literal king of evil

Mewtwo - Mass destruction, Cloning

Roy - Murder

Chrom - Murder

Mr. Game & Watch - Animal abuse, Gambling

Meta Knight - Enacting war

Pit - Following false Gods

Dark Pit - Identity theft

Zero Suit Samus - Genocide

Wario - Theft

Snake - Espionage

Ike - Mercenary work

Pokémon Trainer - Arson

Diddy Kong - Littering

Lucas - Reset the world

Sonic - Speeding

King Dedede - Gluttony

Olimar - Slavery

Lucario - MMA combat

R.O.B. - Use of subspace bombs

Toon Link - Use of explosives

Wolf - Hiring criminals, Assault, Mercenary work

Villager - Tax evasion

Mega Man - Unauthorized use of lemons

Wii Fit Trainer - Extreme yoga assault

Rosalina & Luma - Star slavery

Little Mac - Hippo abuse

Greninja - Meddling with the dark arts

Mii Fighter - Identity theft

Palutena - Pole dancing

PAC-MAN - Consumption of incorporeal beings

Robin - Dark arts

Shulk - Played God

Bowser Jr. - Kidnapping

Duck Hunt - Illegal use of firearms

Ryu - Satsui no Hado

Cloud - Limit, Terrorism still not as evil as limit

Corrin - Murder

Bayonetta - we all know why she's gonna burn in hell

Inkling - Graffiti, Octopus abuse

Ridley - Murder

Simon - Vampire assault

Richter - Vampire assault

King K. Rool - Mass destruction


Of course not all of these are serious and finding beef on everyone was pretty tough. I didn't link everything because I thought it'd be fun for everyone to dig for these sins as well. =)

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GangPlank Galleon - Super Smash Bros. Ultimate

Posted: 14 Aug 2018 05:20 PM PDT

New Smash Blog Post! (8/14/2018) "Today's Music - You can now listen to "Gang-Plank Galleon," from the last boss battle in Donkey Kong Country. Arranged by ACE, this remix even includes a rap!"

Posted: 14 Aug 2018 06:11 PM PDT

With 103 stages, Ultimate is focusing on past stages, so I tried my hand at brainstorming a new stage for some of Smash's main universes

Posted: 14 Aug 2018 02:28 PM PDT

I really hope Simon's entrance is a reference to this

Posted: 14 Aug 2018 09:44 AM PDT

In celebration for the two vampire hunters' inclusion in Smash, I recreated their sprites while about to duke it out!

Posted: 14 Aug 2018 02:15 PM PDT

If Ganondorf Was Added To Smash Now, He'd Almost Certainly Have A Unique Moveset

Posted: 14 Aug 2018 09:51 AM PDT

Seeing big name villains like Ridley and King K. Rool make their debut in Smash with creative and unique movesets makes me feel even worse about poor ol' Ganondorf. I think he's fun to use, but it would be really interesting to see what kind of moves they would give him were he a newcomer today.

What do you think his moveset would be? How would his reveal trailer go?

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I drew some greasy-ass looking Smash characters.

Posted: 14 Aug 2018 11:54 AM PDT

Confirmed Stages Organized by Series

Posted: 14 Aug 2018 07:02 AM PDT

Simon Belmont!

Posted: 14 Aug 2018 03:02 PM PDT

A sticker my friend made for me during high school a few years ago. I never took it off.

Posted: 14 Aug 2018 08:48 AM PDT

TIL: Alph is confirmed on Olimar's Character page

Posted: 14 Aug 2018 07:09 PM PDT

All Unconfirmed Content From Previous Smash Games for Smash Ultimate

Posted: 14 Aug 2018 10:22 AM PDT

Hey, I compiled this list of all of the content that was present in previous Smash games that has not yet been confirmed or deconfirmed for Smash Ultimate. I use the word "unconfirmed" as meaning something has not yet been confirmed or deconfirmed, so in other words meaning that we do not know yet.

For some things (such as trophies, stickers, custom equipment, etc.) there was simply too much to list, so I just grouped that all together into one listing. For Mii Costumes, I decided to list all of those since this information may be interesting to look at when looking at possible new playable characters or assist trophies.

If you see anything wrong or anything that needs to be added/removed, let me know.

Characters:
- Different Mii sizes
- Master Hand (playable version in Melee)

Stages:
- Planet Zebes
- Sector Z
- Meta Crystal (Classic Mode in Smash 64 only)
- Icicle Mountain
- Flat Zone
- Mute City
- Mushroom Kingdom
- Poke Floats
- Rumble Falls
- Flat Zone 2
- PictoChat
- Pac-Maze
- Rainbow Road
- Pyrosphere
- Wolly World
- Jungle Hijinks
- Orbital Gate Assault
- Miiverse
- All versions of Battlefield, Final Destination, and Big Battlefield from other Smash games
- All versions of the Training Mode stage from other Smash games
- All versions of the online waiting stage from other Smash games
- All versions of beta stages and otherwise non-playable stages from other Smash games
- All version of stages for stadium events from other Smash games
- All version of the All-Star mode lobby from other Smash games
- Any various other playable areas from other Smash games

Assist Trophies:
- Barbara
- Chain Chomp
- Devil
- Dillon
- Elec Man
- Helirin
- Infantry and Tanks
- Isaac
- Isabelle
- Jill
- Kat & Ana
- Lakitu and Spinies
- Magnus
- Mr. Resetti
- Nightmare
- Phosphora
- Ray MK III
- Sable Prince
- Saki Amamiya
- Shadow the Hedgehog
- Skull Kid
- Tingle

Items:
- Auroros (Subspace Emissary item)
- Back Shield (Note: There is an option for this item in Special Smash, so the item itself is likely confirmed)
- Barrel Cannon
- Blast Box
- Bonsly (Throwable Pokémon)
- Boomerang
- CD (For collecting music)
- Cloaking Device
- Cracker Launcher
- Custom Part (For collecting custom equipment and custom moves)
- Daybreak
- Deku Nut
- Fan
- Fire Bar
- Flipper
- Freezie
- Gust Bellows
- Gyro (R.O.B.)
- Home-Run Bat
- Key (Subspace Emissary item)
- Lightning Bolt
- Lip's Stick (Note: There is an option for Flower in Special Smash, so this item is likely confirmed)
- Parasol
- Peanut (Diddy Kong)
- Pellet (Distant Planet stage)
- Pit Fall
- POW Block
- Red Shell
- Rolling Crate
- Screw Attack (Note: There is an option for this item in Special Smash, so the item itself is likely confirmed)
- Shellcreepers/Sidesteppers (Mario Bros. stage)
- Smash Coins and Bills (Coin Battle)
- Smoke Ball
- Soccer Ball
- Special Flag
- Spring
- Stat Boosts (Smash Run item)
- Steel Diver
- Sticker (For collecting stickers)
- Stock Ball (Subspace Emissary item)
- Super Star
- Team Healer
- Trophy (For collecting trophies)
- Trophy Stand (Subspace Emissary item)
- Unira
- Wario Bike Wheels (Wario)

Pokémon:
- Arceus
- Atricuno
- Beedrill
- Blastoise
- Bonsly
- Celebi
- Chansey
- Charizard
- Chikorita
- Clefairy
- Cyndaquil
- Fennekin
- Fletchling
- Gardevior
- Genesect
- Gogoat
- Gulpin
- Hitmonlee
- Ho-oh
- Onkay
- Jirachi
- Keldeo
- Koffing
- Kyogre
- Kyurem
- Latias and Latios
- Manaphy
- Marill
- Meloetta
- Moltres
- Munchlax
- Onix
- Oshawott
- Piplup
- Porygon2
- Raikou
- Snivy
- Spewpa
- Starmie
- Swirlix
- Togepi
- Torchic
- Unown
- Venusaur
- Victini
- Weavile
- Weezing
- Wobbuffet
- Zapdos

Game Modes:
- Adventure Mode
- Album/Photo Editor
- All-Star Mode
- Basic Brawl (Online, from Brawl)
- Board the Platforms
- Break the Targets (Brawl, standard stages)
- Break the Targets (Melee, individual stages)
- Challenges
- Chronicle
- Conquest (Online)
- Coin Launcher
- Crazy Orders
- Event Match
- Event Match (2-player)
- For Fun (Online)
- For Glory (Online)
- Home-Run Contest
- Master Orders
- Masterpieces
- Movies
- Multi-Man Smash
- Race to the Finish
- Records
- Rotation
- Share (Online)
- Smash Run
- Smash Tour
- Special Smash
- Spectator (Online)
- Stage Builder
- StreetSmash
- Subspace Emissary
- Target Blast
- Team Battle (Online, from Brawl)
- Tips
- Trophy Gallery
- Trophy Hoard
- Trophy Lottery
- Trophy Rush
- Trophy Shop
- With Friends (Online)

Settings:
- Handicap (Smash 64/Melee version that uses knockback)
- Handicap (Brawl/Smash 4 version that uses percent)

Costumes:
- All non-standard costumes of characters not in the demo
- Note: if a character is in the demo but a specific costume is not, that costume is generally considered de-confirmed

Mii Costumes:
- Akira Wig, Akira's Outfit
- Ashley Wig, Ashley's Outfit
- Bear Suit Hat, Bear Suit
- Bionic Helmet, Bionic Armour
- Black Knight's Helm, Black Knight's Armour
- Business Suit
- Captain Falcon's Helmet, Captain Falcon's Outfit
- Cat Ears
- Cat Hat, Cat Suit
- Chocobo Hat
- Chrom Wig, Chrom's Outfit
- Cowboy Hat
- Cybernetic Suit
- Devil Horns
- Dunban Wig, Dunban Outfit
- Flying Man Hat, Flying Man Outfit
- Football Helmet
- Fox Hat, Fox Outfit
- Geno's Hat, Geno Outfit
- Gil's Helmet, Gil's Armour
- Heihachi Wig, Heihachi's Outfit
- Hibiscus
- High-Tech Armor
- Hoodie
- Hunter's Helm, Hunter's Mail
- Inkling Squid Hat
- Inkling Wig, Inkling Outfit
- Isabelle Hat, Isabelle Outfit
- Jacky Wig, Jacky's Outfit
- K.K. Slider Hat, K.K. Slider Outfit
- King K. Rool Hat, King K. Rool Outfit
- Knuckles Hat, Knuckles Outfit
- Link Cap, Link Outfit
- Lion Hat
- Lloyd Wig, Lloyd's Outfit
- Luigi's Cap
- Majora's Mask
- MegaMan.EXE's Helmet, MegaMan.EXE's Armour
- Monkey Hat, Monkey Suit
- Ninja Headband
- Ninja Suit/Ninja Outfit
- Prince Hat
- Princess Zelda Wig
- Princess's Crown
- Protective Gear
- Proto Man's Helmet, Proto Man's Armor
- Rathalos Helm, Rathalos Mail
- Regal Crown
- Samus's Helmet
- Samus's Helmet, Samus's Armour
- Spartan Helmet
- SSB T-Shirt
- Standard Outfit/Headgear (Smash 4)
- Steampunk Getup
- Straw Hat
- Super Mushroom Hat
- Tails Hat, Tails Outfit
- Takamaru Wig, Takamaru's Outfit
- Toad Hat, Toad Outfit
- Top Hat Headgear
- Tracksuit
- Vampire Garb/Vampire Outfit
- Viridi Wig, Viridi's Outfit
- Western Hat/Wild West Hat, Wild West Wear/Wild West Outfit
- X's Helmet, X's Armor
- Zero's Helmet, Zero's Armour

Bosses:
- Master Hand
- Crazy Hand
- Giga Bowser
- Petey Piranha
- Rayquaza
- Porky Minch
- Ridley/Meta Ridley (Brawl)
- Duon
- Galleom
- Tabuu
- Master Core
- Master Fortress

Minor Bosses:
- Giant Donkey Kong
- Metal Mario
- Giant Kirby
- Metal Luigi
- Giant Bowser
- False Giant Diddy Kong
- Character teams in Classic Mode/Event Matches
- Metal versions of characters in Classic Mode/Event Matches

Stage Bosses:
- Ridley (Smash 4)

Enemies
- All enemies that appear in Adventure Mode in Melee, Subspace Emissary in Brawl, Smash Run in Smash 3DS, and Master Fortress in Smash Wii U. See this page for further details: https://www.ssbwiki.com/Enemy

Moves:
- All custom moves for all characters (Note: Miis are confirmed to have different variations on specials, but these have not been confirmed to be the same ones as from Smash 4)
- See this page for a full list of custom moves: http://supersmashbros.wikia.com/wiki/Custom_Moves
- See this page for a full list of Palutena's moves: https://www.ssbwiki.com/Palutena_(SSB4)#Moveset
- See this page for a full list of the Mii Swordfighter's moves: https://www.ssbwiki.com/Mii_Swordfighter_(SSB4)#Moveset
- See this page for a full list of the Mii Brawler's moves: https://www.ssbwiki.com/Mii_Brawler_(SSB4)#Moveset
- See this page for a full list of the Mii Gunner's moves: https://www.ssbwiki.com/Mii_Gunner_(SSB4)#Moveset
- Any move for a characters not in the demo, excluding moves that have been shown on videos

Final Smashes:
- Aura Storm (Lucario, Brawl)
- Diffusion Beam (R.O.B., Brawl)
- Mega Lucario (Lucario, Smash 4)
- Negative Zone (Luigi, Brawl)
- Pair Up (Robin)
- Peach Blossom (Peach)
- Poltergust 5000 (Luigi, Smash 4)
- Rocketbarrel Barrage (Diddy)
- Super Diffusion Beam (R.O.B., Smash 4)
- Super Dragon (Yoshi)
- Wii Fit (Wii Fit Trainer)

Music:
- All music from previous Smash games not yet featured on the Super Smash Bros. website, demos, or videos. See this post for further details: https://old.reddit.com/r/smashbros/comments/978jmj/the_comprehensive_super_smash_bros_ultimate_music/

Technical Stuff:
- Any and all frame data, damage output, launch distance, weight, ground speed, air speed, landing lag, start up, cooldown, jump height, hitboxes, hurtboxes, true combos, follow-ups, tech, etc. for characters or moves of characters not in the demo
- Any and all properties of returning stages not in the demo
- Note: Since the game engine can change between now and release date, anything confirmed or deconfirmed in this category may not stand as such on December 7 or after patches

Other:
- Certain lines from the announcer, such as "Failure", "Complete", and yelling the name of the video game
- Collectible Music (as well as all collectible music from previous games)
- Custom Equipment (as well as all custom equipment from previous games)
- Custom Moves (as well as all custom moves from previous games)
- Mii Costumes (as well as all Mii costumes from previous games, although I still listed these as this information is important for possibly predicting future characters)
- Stickers (as well as all stickers from previous games)
- The ability to edit snapshots
- The ability to save replays (Note: This is a built-in feature of the Switch, but no in-game feature has been confirmed)
- The ability to take snapshots (Note: This is a built-in feature of the Switch, but no in-game feature has been confirmed)
- The ability to use a standard N64 controller or any other N64 controller as a controller
- The ability to use a Gamecube controller other than the standard Gamecube controller as a controller
- The ability to use the 3DS, 3DS XL, or 2DS as a controller
- The ability to use the Wii remote, Wii remote and nunchuck, Classic Controller, or any other Wii controller as a controller
- The ability to use the Wii U Gamepad, Wii U Pro Controller, or any other Wii U controller as a controller
- Trophies (as well as all trophies from previous games)

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(Ruben) To those of us worried about the "balloon knockback" in Ultimate: Low knockback moves have similar launch speeds to Smash 4! The balloon effect comes out for higher knockback moves.

Posted: 14 Aug 2018 05:55 AM PDT

I'm not usually one for crackpot theories, but.... Here is everything I could find towards the Chorus Kids becoming playable

Posted: 14 Aug 2018 01:19 PM PDT

I would kill for a shirt like these. Anyway I can get one without being ZeRo

Posted: 14 Aug 2018 11:24 AM PDT

K. Rool Fan Art [OC]

Posted: 14 Aug 2018 08:29 PM PDT

I 3D Modeled Simon Belmont's New Whip

Posted: 14 Aug 2018 02:56 PM PDT

The ULTIMATE Troll moment in Smash history?

Posted: 14 Aug 2018 02:07 AM PDT

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