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World of Warcraft - 2018 AWC Summer Finals / Live Discussion Thread

2018 AWC Summer Finals / Live Discussion Thread

Posted: 12 Jul 2018 01:19 PM PDT

Arena World Championship - Summer Finals

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  • All matches for AWC Summer Finals will be played on 7.3.5.

The AWC Summer Finals includes the top four teams each from Europe and North America in the biggest Arena Tournament outside of BlizzCon. The winner will grab a piece of the $100,000 prize pool and earn a spot in the WoW Arena World Championship at BlizzCon.

Watch the action LIVE Sat & Sun @ Twitch.tv/Warcraft

The Story So Far

The Summer Season has bought a mixed bag of continuing dominance and potential redemption stories. In Europe, Method Black & Ascendant have been tussling for the top spot all year long, with Method Black edging ahead with their superior all-round multiclassing ability. Meanwhile the surging Tempo Storm, featuring champion-tier players Alec and Niksi, have found their way back into Europe's top tier after struggling in the Spring Season. The appropriately named The Move has been to North America what Method Black has been to Europe: ruthless in picking up 480 points out of a possible 540. They've blossomed from a Spring Season of missing the cut for the seasonal finals to overcoming close rivals Super Frogs and Method Orange to clinching the top spot for the Summer Finals. We're half way through the year and BlizzCon looms for all eight of these teams. With Spring Finals winners Reformed out of the running for the Summer Finals, all eight teams in this event are eyeing that BlizzCon qualification spot and a chance to lock themselves in for the Battle for Azeroth.

Schedule

Start Times

Day 1 Day 2
Sat - July 14 Sun - July 15
9:00 a.m. PDT 9:00 a.m. PDT
12:00 p.m. EDT 12:00 p.m. EDT
18:00 CEST 18:00 CEST

Opening Match ups

  • 9:00 a.m. PDT - The Move vs XRB to the Moon
  • 10:00 a.m. PDT - Method Orange vs Ascendant
  • 11:00 a.m. PDT - Method Black vs Super Rejects
  • 12:00 p.m. PDT - Super Frogs vs Tempo Storm
  • 1:00 p.m. PDT - Upper bracket
  • 2:00 p.m. PDT- Upper bracket
  • PDT - Lower bracket
  • PDT - Lower bracket

Hosts and Casters

EU Teams

Method Black Ascendant Tempo Storm XRB to the Moon
Whaazz Vilaye Alec Wallirik
Rogue - Outlaw Priest - Shadow Mage - Arcane Warlock - Demonology
Chas Maro Minpojke Zeepeye
Priest - Discipline Mage - Frost Druid - Restoration Shaman - Elemental
Swapxy Ratapai Jaime Blizo
Shaman - Elemental Priest - Discipline Shaman - Elemental Warrior - Arm
Raiku Akrololz Niksi Loony
Mage - Frost Rogue - Subtlety Rogue - Outlaw Druid - Restoration

NA Teams

The Move Super Frogs Method Orange Super Rejects
Pikaboo Chanimal Cdew Kolo
Rogue - Assassination Warlock - Affliction Shaman - Restoration Priest - Holy
Wizk Chunli Trill Smexxin
Priest - Shadow Monk - Windwalker Monk - Windwalker Warrior - Arms
Absterge Kubzy Mes Envious
Shaman - Restoration Shaman - Restoration Death Knight - Frost Paladin - Retribution
Jellybeans Wealthyman Samiyam Thugonomicz
Hunter - Marksmen Rogue - Assassination Mage - Arcane Warlock - Destruction

Discuss away!

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Thursday Loot Thread

Posted: 12 Jul 2018 03:12 AM PDT

Let us know what you got this week! Achievements, meta-achievements, mounts, pets, actual loot drops, gold thresholds, or other things that you can say, "Oooh, I got this" and be excited about. Post them here! Screenshots are encouraged but not necessary.

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To celebrate the Pre-Patch coming soon I painted a female Orc as the embers and smoke from the burning Teldrassil blankets the area around her.

Posted: 12 Jul 2018 10:39 AM PDT

Golmath, the Unholy Dk

Posted: 12 Jul 2018 06:56 AM PDT

Recovered my Paladin that I haven't played since MoP, found this letter that I had stashed in my bank. Feelsgoodman

Posted: 12 Jul 2018 12:55 AM PDT

Legion Defeated and This Guy is Still Milking It

Posted: 12 Jul 2018 06:11 AM PDT

Nathanos before he got his swanky-panky new body.

Posted: 12 Jul 2018 12:02 PM PDT

My Light Forged Paladin - Commission

Posted: 11 Jul 2018 11:03 PM PDT

Ghartra, my Frost DK - Commission

Posted: 12 Jul 2018 10:29 AM PDT

Can we have Zen Flight as a "real" mount?

Posted: 12 Jul 2018 05:32 AM PDT

Title basically.. whenever i use my little meditation cloud i'd love to fly with it in full speed. Maybe make it a glyph that removes the instant cast but makes it travel with mount speed? Pls?

Would you like using it?

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Concept Azerite hammer, inspired by Hammer of the Naaru - Made by me

Posted: 12 Jul 2018 10:34 AM PDT

Khadgar - I'm getting too old for this shit...

Posted: 12 Jul 2018 04:41 AM PDT

Can we get a glyph for our druid flying forms to be a moonkin vigorously flaping their wings?

Posted: 12 Jul 2018 03:52 AM PDT

Seriously how cool would that be?

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Updated Creature Models in the Battle for Azeroth Pre-Expansion Patch

Posted: 12 Jul 2018 02:39 AM PDT

[Preach] Azerite Armor - Good or Bad?

Posted: 12 Jul 2018 09:05 AM PDT

GM: "We'll not disclose further information with you and there will be no further discussion" (after forced name-change for a toon named Weinstein, created in 2010)

Posted: 12 Jul 2018 02:38 AM PDT

I Fixed the WoW 2019 Calendar

Posted: 12 Jul 2018 10:55 AM PDT

How do we do this in BFA? Is it an idle stance, emote or something else?

Posted: 12 Jul 2018 01:37 AM PDT

My FanArt of Alleria Windrunner

Posted: 12 Jul 2018 01:50 PM PDT

My FanArt of Alleria Windrunner

Hi! This is a drawing of my beauty high elf Alleria Windrunner ranger-captain of Silvermoon

https://i.redd.it/e2hsg8dlxk911.png

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For some weird reason, a new ring has been added in BFA - to the WotLK raid Obsidian Sanctum(25)

Posted: 12 Jul 2018 08:54 AM PDT

WE WENT ON AN ADVENTURE!

Posted: 12 Jul 2018 05:31 AM PDT

It's slanted....

Posted: 12 Jul 2018 10:07 AM PDT

Amazon Preview of the Official WoW 2019 Calendar with some new art.

Posted: 12 Jul 2018 05:39 AM PDT

At sea, north of Drustvar, we encounter something truly magical.

Posted: 12 Jul 2018 12:27 AM PDT

BFA My thoughts Going In - Long Read

Posted: 11 Jul 2018 06:39 PM PDT

Ok so I will go ahead and be the positive WoW shill that I am and give you my run down.

First this expansion uses the foundation systems of Legion which is GOOD. Obviously it was well received regardless of what the "sky is falling" crowd will tell you. Legion to me was basically WoW 2.0 in that it introduced new systems that can carry the game forward in different variations.

Azerite Power AKA Artifact Power [AP] - Bringing this system back was the right move. It creates a grind and replay-ability of all the systems in BFA. I find it nice that it doesn't have to go into a certain spec and it's character wide. Makes for a more alt friendly change but keeps the grind. The Heart of Azeroth pendant is the backbone of our AP leveling which then trickles into..

Azerite Armor - These pieces of armor are introduced in the initial questline of BFA, into questing, through dungeons, into raids and PvP. You level of up your Pendant to then apply it into your Helm/Shoulders/Chest. This can not titanforge which is a nice touch. So far the Mythic traits are pretty GOOD not 2/4 piece set good. I expect we get these in the first "raid tier" of the expansion. Which should be Azshara in 8.1 if that is in fact her raid. Overall I think it's Blizzard experimenting here. I have found amazing traits at Mythic dungeon levels for my Prot Paladin. You will obviously be farming multiples of the SAME armor which creates different SETS for different situations. NOW IS THIS IDEAL? I kinda don't like it but we been doing already in previous expansions. I.E. - ST set/AoE Set/Balance etc. NO secondary stats....that I don't like. Prot Paladin at 8% haste at iLvL 357? 📷

WEAPON DROPS ARE BACK and can only Warforge

World Quests - They are back and rightfully so they tie into our grind/rep grind and start off. Cool things to note WQ now have weapons and good trinkets. Not just stat sticks but ones that increase primary stats and some that have dmg procs. They drop War Resources/Gold/AP/Armor and Weapons.

Reputation - Pretty cool yeah I mean rep grind. Least now we get relevant gear to start new raids

Factions Hubs - Thank f00king TIRION. If you have never sat in Boralus at night then you just have to. The Hubs are HUGE and filled with fun, secrets, quests and more. Horde city is just a tower of beauty and come on now after being snubbed on Karabor how are you not happy for this.

War Campaign - Also located in your major city in BFA houses the replacement for the Class Order hall. Now i loved my order and Blizzard is tuning this down in BFA. As you level your faction commander gives you quests to venture into the opposite factions land. There is a Mission Table but its VERY LIGHT like 4-5 followers. Also an upgrade station which affects your Warfronts and out door adventures. This could be your first taste of Warmode PvP but be careful as of right now outside of the quest hub you invade mobs are 120.

Warmode - This is actually a bold and smart move by Blizzard. No more templates, Gear matters again, and it is on US. This is a player CHOICE to fight now. Your PvP servers are now basically PvE. Once you turn on Warmode then it's game. There is a bounty system where if you kill enough of opposite faction you have a bounty of your head and people will look for you. There are AIR DROPS (lol wtf) that just like in BR people will fight over that can contain gear and other loot. Conquest system is back and as you level you get gear. Strongboxes still exist but they are mixing the old way and new way of gearing. Also cool to note if you get enough conquest you get a PvP only chest every reset like PvE'ers do for Mythic. Once again Warmode is a PLAYER CHOICE and it is up to us to go out there fight. Pretty much Blizzard said eff it you want to go at it you can...no then PVE casual pleb.

(Note you get 10% experience from quests mobs for enabling this! At 120 you get 10% more from World Quests resources which Mythic Raiders will probably be all over)

Warfronts - Yeah I know NOT PvP but it brings back that WC3 RTS feel for you OG's out there. Battles are about 20-30 minutes long and thus far after every battle you get gear. This may change. But players think that is it. It's NOT. There is a War Effort that needs to go on. In your major city you will have profession/Gold/War Resource turn ins that give you a boat load of AP and help with your wekly effort to get back into battle. Once you've won you have access to what I call NEW ARATHI Highlands. Rares everywhere 4/5 mounts to farm from these, tons of toys, gear and much more. Plus the World Boss. More Warfront locations have been datamined so expect more old zones being converted for Warfront battles.

Island Expeditions - This one I WAS VERY HYPED for but then was like MEH. It is a huge source so they say of weekly Azerite. There are 6-9 different islands. 3v3 You against Blizzard made AI which is fun to go up against. You collect Azerite first to 4k/6k/9k wins. N/H/M difficulty. There is a PvP where you go up against 3 other players and this could eventually become competitive and might be next thing Blizzard tries to push like with MDI. It IS A DYNAMIC world. The same Island you went to might not be same if you get it again in queue. There are quests and fun little activities to do while in there.

NEW ZONES - Ok I serously laugh when people say that BFA is a reskinned Legion with new zones. Come on. Has anyone actually seen Drustvar? Voldun? Nazmir? This expansion gives me the MOP feel. New enemies, new faces, new stories. Kind of like when we first got to up against the Klaxxi, Mogu etc. Each zone has their unique story lines. Alliance is OK. The Azshara story in Stormsong valley is legit...Drustvar is creepy as f00k. Horde side has the real deal quests with Blood Trolls, Blood Gods, Rastakhan, Zul, the Sethrak (sp?). There is nothing LEGION about this. Screw Fel glad it's finally gone and we can move on.

No Suramar zone but datamined areas like Najatar, Blighted lands, Plunder Isle and possibly Old God lands could surface. (really dudes people cry about Suramar in legion then cry when BFA doesn't start with one?)

Mythic Plus - Probably the most loved feature. 10 Dungeons to start. ALL very unique. Boss mechanics are tough, every trash pack feels like it can destroy you. Tyrannical and Fortified now start at +2 which gives for more better feel to Legion difficulty jump in certain levels like going from 8 to a 10 in early Legion, or 15 to a 17. Temple of Sethrallis, Waycrest Manor, King's Rest are some of my favorites. Each tell a good story related to what we went through in the leveling zones.

Raids - Ion mentioned that BFA will follow pretty much the same patch cycle as Legion. (WoD 2.0 AMIRITE?) First raid Uldir is a good starting point. Titan experimental facility in which we take on the Blood God G'Hunn. (once again kick ass Horde Story) Mythic difficulty from testing has shown to have some pretty nice challenges to it. I expect there ot be 3-4 Raids with a Mini Raid. Think one was datamined after Uldir in Zandalar?

Allied Races - Say what you will but people love this stuff. Allied races with their own unique racials to leave you siming for days! Sorry DK's 📷 4 so far and probably more to come. This is pretty much the "come back and try this one out" of the expansion.

Mounts/pets/Puzzles - TONS AND TONS of these. Puzzles I can't wait for, that community is insane.

Communities Feature - Like circles in Wildstar and Link Shells in FFXIV this is a GREAT way to build communities focued on different aspects of games. M+ communities, weekend raiders, casual players, achievement hunters, for me streamer community will be big. This is a very very underrated feature.

Pre-Patch content - Burning of Tree, Battle for Lorderon. Not weak but definitely not the Level your alt hype of Legion Pre-Patch.

Now for some things that are on the controversial side.:

No Tier sets - Obviously a product of Azerite Armor. We will see how this goes. I welcome the not having to keep higher iLvL gear in your bags for 2/4 piece sets

GCD changes - Adapt or go home? Yeah man it sucks. Especially having defensives there but they seem firm on their stance. Although they have made changes to some abilities here and there. I don't see this "FFXIV" slow down though. Very exaggerated.

Mythic Plus no armor changes allowed while in dungeon - Why? Do not agree

Personal Loot/Master Loot - Why? Do not agree.

CLASS CHANGES AND BALANCE - Oh man lol. I like fact that they kept some of the good traits and lego equip on our Azerite traits and talents and Passives. But seeing some classes and specs NOT get theirs was disappointing. Plenty of specs got new talents and new passives to play with. Some got snubbed and robbed. It happens.

Once again let's not confuse TUNING and CLASS CHANGES. Tuning has been going on for months now and class changes have been made. Some will change in future. Welcome to every expansion. Yes I know your spec is borked and you're mad. This happens EVERY TIME. Legion pruning sheit posts come to mind and it will happen for future expansions.

BUGS on BETA - yeah I mean come on you know their QA team is ahead of our versions let's not go crazy cause you fell through the world or crit error'd in Arathi

In end BFA has me HYPED not SUPER HYPED but HYPED enough that I will get the same fun and replay-ability I got in Legion. It is a new world with great systems continued and adjusted. Having the world revolve around AP grind is a good move and glad it is back.

I probably missed a lot but this is all I got. I'm spent. And yes I realize I play WoW for a living and the game prospering is good for me and other content creators. Hence I realize my opinion is already skewed to a lot you. But these are just thoughts going in.

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Where was Elune during (SPOILER)?

Posted: 12 Jul 2018 11:58 AM PDT

(SPOILER) = Burning of Teldrassil

I've been wondering for some time about that. She has many, many night elves worshipping and loving her, and when she has to help them, she does nothing. Why didn't she do anything when one of the World Trees was burning? Why didn't she interfere? And not only that, why didn't she help against Sargeras?

And, more importantly, will she (indirectly or directly, doesn't matter) join us in war against the Old Gods and/or Void Lords?

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