Super Smash Bros - r/smashbros Official 24 hrs Countdown E3 Hype / Speculation Megathread | Please keep all Smash Switch Related Questions and Discussions here


r/smashbros Official 24 hrs Countdown E3 Hype / Speculation Megathread | Please keep all Smash Switch Related Questions and Discussions here

Posted: 11 Jun 2018 04:52 AM PDT

State of the Sub: Calm before the storm - Countdown

r/smashbros and E3 going forwards with Smash Switch Posts

 

Hello r/smashbros,

This post will be used to create a "Calm before the storm" so that we can have the sub ready for the inevitable flood of Switch post while giving those already on the sub an avenue to discuss what they would like to see as we countdown to the next Smash Game. The thread will also highlight some guidelines that will help some rules of why your post may or may not be removed during or after Nintendo's E3 Presentation.

 

Smash Switch Posts that will be removed

  • Reposts

  • Non-Smash Related Content

  • Meme Posts

  • Reaction threads

  • Leaks

  • Bingo Cards

  • Click Bait or Otherwise false titles

  • Dream Roster Posts

 

E3 Schedule

Tuesday, June 12th at 9 AM PT / 12 PM ET / 5 PM BST

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Super Smash Bros. Invitational 2018 | Feat. ZeRo, Armada, MkLeo, Mang0, Abadango, Plup, Mr. R and Lucky | Official Information and Discussion Thread

Posted: 11 Jun 2018 06:00 PM PDT

Super Smash Bros. Invitational 2018 // June 12th

Join the party as players from around the world battle in this invitational tournament for bragging rights, for fun, and for glory on Nintendo Switch!

The 8 invited competitors will compete in a double-elimination bracket and show off the new Super Smash Bros. title.

 

Player Trailers:

Armada // Abadango // Plup // Mang0 // MKLeo // Mr. R // Lucky // ZeRo

 

Nintendo Stream

 

Event Schedule, All Times Eastern

Time Zone Conversion Sheet: Link

 

Tuesday, June 12th

  • 12:00PM - Nintendo Direct Video Presentation

  • 04:00PM - Splatoon 2 World Championship

  • ~5:00PM - Super Smash Bros. Invitational 2018

 

Format

Double Elim Bracket

Gamecube Adapters More or Less Confirmed

 

Other Information

Twitter // Tickets

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The Smash Bros 2018 invitational to be Double Elimination

Posted: 11 Jun 2018 12:17 PM PDT

GameCube controller adapters may have been spotted in the Splatoon Championship Tournament earlier today.

Posted: 11 Jun 2018 05:26 PM PDT

Eevee’s Melee trophy sure was freaky...

Posted: 11 Jun 2018 03:57 PM PDT

Insane Instant Turnaround Upair by Wizzrobe

Posted: 11 Jun 2018 01:26 PM PDT

Friendly reminder from @Tkbreezy, @vikkikitty_, & @ViciousVish to tune in tomorrow for the first look at Super #SmashBros for #NintendoSwitch! The Super Smash Bros. Invitational Tournament 2018

Posted: 11 Jun 2018 07:34 PM PDT

Take in that if Melee was released later Nintendo could have killed the competitive scene by releasing a patch to remove all the fancy tech

Posted: 11 Jun 2018 01:31 PM PDT

The Invitational could start about 2 pm PT on June 12.

Posted: 11 Jun 2018 04:15 PM PDT

The Splatoon 2 World Championship Finals on June 12th tomorrow is just Grand Finals, which is a Best of 7. Last year the finals was also a Best of 7 and went to Game 5, and lasted about 45 minutes. The Invitational starts "right after the Splatoon 2 World Championship finals on June 12," so it could start around 2 pm PT.

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Falco shine to bair at 690%

Posted: 11 Jun 2018 11:19 AM PDT

The Ultimate Smash 4 Results Based Tier List! (20 hours worth of stat collection!)

Posted: 11 Jun 2018 08:31 AM PDT

EDIT: The link to the Stats sheet has been fixed

EDIT 2: Added the write up to the bottom

Hello Reader! A couple months ago I worked on another big project that I posted here and at the end I had the intention to updating it. Like last time, this post reads as a follow up to /u/BarnardsLoop data post, and I recommend looking at it before this. Anyway here's the Final Smash 4 Tier List:

https://m.imgur.com/gallery/CG5SM1X

Stats: (IMPORTANT TO LOOK AT THIS)

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1aaJx8Nz2VLdU6R6KY_EkGNK9NX6mEwsB5sBFkR1WdvI/edit?usp=sharing

Raw Data: (First page for data collection context)

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1yl14FSJn2aa2kDrxSZtNAKxUIqGZ3HuMlbn4plw-dAc/edit?usp=sharing

Methodology:

The Data collected is from all PGR events between PGRv3 to current v5. PGRv3 in many ways (banning Duck Hunt Stage forever, Bayo back at top level, ABC evaluation of events) can be seen as the beginning of the modern era of Smash 4.

In order to build the final Tier List, the plan was to take multiple ideas of evaluating characters and putting them together. This imgur post contains 4 tier lists to visualize these ideas, description below.

https://m.imgur.com/gallery/Jwghpnx

Going in order, first is Meta %, the total percentage of each character as they appeared in the data.

Pro Score %, deriving from the Meta % but only taking the Top 16 of A/S Tiers for data, to express the frequency of characters at top level.

Peak Placements: Showing the best performances of each character in the 3 season period

And lastly PGR Norms, norms meaning wins in this case, to show the quality of wins characters have achieved.

*Another point of evaluation is the 3 peak placements in the spreadsheet. Characters that remain consistent, drop, or rise between these 3 periods is another point of evaluating characters in the final tier list, and success is heavily skewed towards v5 as the assumption is that competition increases as the game gets older.

These thoughts and more will be shared in the write up which will be coming later, I need to go to bed the sun's coming up.


Write Up:

Okay back to finish this. I apologize for screwing up on not posting the Sheets list, if you have missed that please go back and check it, I will be referncing it a lot. For the most part I'll give quick answers to everything.

S Tier confusion:

My bad, The Letter Tiers mean Tier 1 Tier 2 etc. In this case S Tier contains the bulk of top level results. (M2, Sonic and Mario are a bit lacking in this case).

Jiggs > Kirby? BJ bottom 3?:

From Falco down, the bottom tier is a mess of some mediocre almost non-existant results, and thats pretty much the order of it. Kirby and BJ have the absolute worst results out of all the characters (the miis dont even count). Theory isnt much when your character has done nothing.

Using Consistency instead of Theory:

In the data sheet I listed the three best placings of a character in PGR v3-v5 respectively, trying to find consistency in characters as a part of the ranking. (This is where Captain Falcon suffers, as he has crazy peaks in v3 and v5 but a significant low in v4.) Given a year and a half of collecting data, ALL CHARACTERS were given an ample amount of time to get results.

How are DK/Bowser bad when Tweek/Nairo pull them out and take games at majors?

Well this is a good question. However these counterpicks have been figured out at the top level, and nowadays the heavies get countercounter picked by Bayo, not a good day for them. In terms of their solo main records, they get blown out very quickly with a tremendous amount of bad match ups. DK does a little bit better in this regard though, as the frequency of Clouds at any given tournament can give him favorable brackets.

Marcina the same?

Yes, The bulk of Lucina results actually come as a co-main to Marth, and the best Marth mains have used Lucina. There isnt much reason to separate the two data wise.

Okay thats pretty much it, I'll be doing a separate write up post later to describe meta trends for individual characters, thank you for reading.

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As a kid, Melee Mewtwo's fingers creeped me out, how about you guys?

Posted: 11 Jun 2018 08:02 PM PDT

Was Wizzrobe/HBox the most impressive performance a player has had against him (or any non God against a top 3)?

Posted: 11 Jun 2018 05:25 PM PDT

What an impressive performance by Wizzrobe. He played absolutely disgusting Smash.

Has there ever been a performance against HBox that impressive since hes become a top 3 player? Specially considering the characters and how Wizzy was in control basically all throughout both sets to cap off a dominant 6-2

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What If Mario Could Throw His Hat In Super Smash Bros? (Smash mod)

Posted: 11 Jun 2018 12:16 PM PDT

FINALLY A GOOD GUEST || The Reads Episode 57 ft. Swedish Delight

Posted: 11 Jun 2018 12:03 PM PDT

Super Smash Sisters - Fan Art (30 most wanted female fighters for Smash)

Posted: 11 Jun 2018 06:11 AM PDT

Become Fishers of Men

Posted: 11 Jun 2018 11:13 AM PDT

20XX cause peach some brain damage

Posted: 11 Jun 2018 08:16 PM PDT

Mega Sheik Mondays - First to Five: K9sbruce vs. VoiD

Posted: 11 Jun 2018 07:52 PM PDT

Game 1 - Smashville: VoiD (2 stock)

Game 2 - Final Destination: VoiD (2 stock)

Game 3 - Final Destination: VoiD

Game 4 - Final Destination: K9sbruce (2 stock)

Game 5 - Dreamland: VoiD

Game 6 - Town and City: K9sbruce

Game 7 - Smashville: K9sbruce

Game 8 - Smashville: VoiD

VoiD wins 5-3!

K9sbruce was flown out for this tournament

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Are there any mods that show Master Core's actual HP, or has it been found in the game data at all?

Posted: 11 Jun 2018 08:22 AM PDT

Wizzy beat Hbox, the path to No. 1 and more in this week’s Monday Morning Marth!

Posted: 11 Jun 2018 12:51 PM PDT

Hyrule Saga emergency registration and MSM 150 is tonight!

Posted: 11 Jun 2018 12:59 PM PDT

Hey all,

Tonight is the 150th MSM and will be theme as Mega Sheik Monday after VoiD and K9's rivalry in the early days of MSM.

Plus, this is the last day to register for Hyrule Saga under the emergency registration fee. We're close to 900 attendees and hope you can help us reach it!

For more info visit these links

MSM - https://smash.gg/msm

Hyrule Saga: https://smash.gg/HyruleSaga

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Fixed Melee Character Select Screen

Posted: 11 Jun 2018 08:28 PM PDT

Just a picture of my dream team. Villains are highly underrepresented in Smash and I hope that changes this time around. Tuesday can’t come soon enough.

Posted: 10 Jun 2018 10:00 PM PDT

For Glory is very serious business

Posted: 11 Jun 2018 09:26 PM PDT

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