Learn Dota 2 - 7.11 Discussion Thread


7.11 Discussion Thread

Posted: 15 Mar 2018 01:54 PM PDT

Creep pulling made easy - never miss a pull again.

Posted: 15 Mar 2018 05:02 AM PDT

How to gank effectively?

Posted: 15 Mar 2018 03:08 PM PDT

So the other day I was playing Lion with a friend playing Storm. I had been sitting in the safelane doing normal supporty stuff, buying wards, pulling the lane, killing the offlaners.

At around 3:15 my friend then calls out for a gank mid against a skywrath, the lane was pushed in both of them were low and it seemed like it should be an easy kill. Of course it wasn't, the skywrath got away through my disables and managed to snag a haste rune to escape.

Now what I'm asking is what would be the correct course to follow in this sort of gank, would I have wanted to get a smoke? Ran at him earlier? What would I have needed to do to be able to secure that kill.

The match ID is 3781186300 as I'm sure that will come in handy.

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When should you buy drum on Shadow Fiend?

Posted: 15 Mar 2018 04:34 PM PDT

Title pretty much. Why would you get this item over something else? And when would you typically get it?

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Is pushing mid tower early bad?

Posted: 15 Mar 2018 05:06 AM PDT

It was around minute 10-12ish, I was playing Pugna. I sensed that enemy team was making themselves busy at the other side of the map, thus an opening to the middle tier 1 tower. When I started spamming Nether Blast, my ally, OD, asked me not to destroy the tower. He said he wanted to farm more. I sort of understood what he was saying, but I categorically disagreed. And he got tilted when I destroyed the tower.

What are your thoughts on this?

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Recording DOTA clips?

Posted: 15 Mar 2018 06:33 PM PDT

Can anyone suggest a good guide for recording Dota clips for upload to YouTube? I had a rampage as Oracle that I'd like to record for posterity.

Thanks!

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Posted: 15 Mar 2018 10:57 AM PDT

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Offlane Doom itemization questions

Posted: 15 Mar 2018 02:06 AM PDT

So I'm trying to narrow my hero pool by spamming Doom, Clinkz and Bane. My question is again how do you itemize Doom especially after Shiva's?

I usually go boots > wand > phase > drums > SB and I'm pretty rigid about that. I suppose you may want treads in rare instances but I'm not sure when. Drums I figure just puts him over the edge for a lot of things, MS, some bulk, decent mana. I like SB since I usually get a good early lead so I can get kills while people are still laning. I get shiva's next because my armor is really hurting me most at this point, I suppose you could get AC but I don't really think of myself as the carry and even then I don't know if I have enough MS to not get kited.

Also I've had a problem with staying relevant late in the game, I usually start 5/0/5 or something similar then just fall off the map in fights in the late game. I'm too soft to stay in fights. I haven't tried refresher in a game yet maybe that's the key. I suppose dooming two people at the start of the fight should make me more survivable indirectly.

fun fact: I'm 6 for 6 at ending the game at lvl 25. I can't end for shiettttt

So here are my questions

  1. Is it ever ok to skip drums? I wanted to go blademail one game

  2. Is blademail good on him? If you want armor earlier on.

  3. I don't see pros do this but what about medallion?

  4. What next after Shiva's? BKB to help fight a bit or Refresher. I'm leaning towards refresher. A bit more expensive but at least a perseverance is not totally awful. Also what I mentioned above

  5. What other items should I consider here? I usually fall flat on my face in the late game

Dotabuff: https://www.opendota.com/players/143016151

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Need halp with timbersaw

Posted: 15 Mar 2018 08:47 AM PDT

Hello guys. Cant figure out what i must with this hero, but want to play on it. Tried him in offlane. But it seems to me that he is too weak to make a impact. Not super tanky and also dont do good damage (maybe only in early game vs melee heroes). Sry for bad eиglish.

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How to play Doom so that the team does better

Posted: 15 Mar 2018 10:22 AM PDT

Recently I've been playing Doom offlane, which is the most fun I've had in this game. I enjoy the mechanics and playstyle associated with doom. While I have gotten good at the mechanics, the itemization and the role he fills as an individual, I am having trouble with team stuff.

I say this because while I am playing "good" (getting lots of kills/assists/not dying) I have been regularly losing matches. Obviously those kills don't mean much if my team keeps losing. At this point it can't be that I just always have a bad team. At this point I have to say that Im the common denominator At this point its safe to say that unless I adjust my playstyle to actual impact the game this will continue.

How do I play Doom so that my team wins?

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Aghs vs Radiance vs AC on brew

Posted: 15 Mar 2018 06:14 AM PDT

When I play brewmaster I usually get blink/vlads/phase boots/wand. After those items, I almost always get the aghs because I feel like it makes my ulti way better.

My question is, after the core items, why would I get a Radiance or the AC instead of the aghs? Under what circumstances?

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Any spectre pro games?

Posted: 15 Mar 2018 12:55 PM PDT

I started playing Dota a year ago and I really like playing spectre carry nowadays as she a weak laner and I feel she teaches a lot about laning as I never get babysat at my ultra low mmr.

Anyway, I was wondering if there are any pro matches with Spectre carry. I know she has not been in the pro meta since 7.00 but there must exist a time where she was viable right? i don't mind it being old. I just want to see how she is played in a pro setting, especially radiance Spectre.

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Farming fast on gyro? Looking for advice on how to use spells while farming.

Posted: 15 Mar 2018 12:47 PM PDT

Just had a good game. I never play the hero but i have a good feel for the carry role. The veno and pudge made laning super easy, but i feel like my gpm could've been higher farming. I did remember to double up on camps with Flak Cannon, but i'm sure i could've done better.

Match ID 3782685792 - Please watch a bit of replay, just the farming parts.

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How do I win games like these?

Posted: 15 Mar 2018 11:49 AM PDT

https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/3782614333

Tbh I deliberately tried to avoid fights and push as much as possible just to see how much I can get away with (yes this was unranked) but what I didn't expect was to fall so far behind. What exactly went wrong here? I was clearly expecting to fall behind since I was against BB+Sniper, but I suppose Sven is a hero that can recover quickly although it didn't feel like I was able to that in this game.

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I don't know why I ranked up to Archon 5

Posted: 14 Mar 2018 11:03 PM PDT

2 years ago i was 3.8k max. Just started again and I calibrated at Archon 4. I am losing and winning with a rasio of 1:1 for 15+ games. I just suddenly ranked up to Archon 5? i havent even gained 100 mmr

my mmr is now 2650

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What are things that I should keep in mind before I try to spam meepo?

Posted: 15 Mar 2018 10:12 AM PDT

I wanted to spam meepo for a bit and see if my rank goes up or nah. So what should I remember before going in to the game?

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i need help with luna (items)

Posted: 15 Mar 2018 04:07 AM PDT

i want to know when build hurricane and manta, bkb i know, but this 2 items i see a lot of "top" players sometimes building manta and hurricane and sometimes no..

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Why does Lone Druid buy Radiance and other LD questions

Posted: 15 Mar 2018 02:04 AM PDT

I have a couple of questions on LD and using him effectively:

(1) Itemisation - Why is Radiance good on him? Does he have good alternatives to Radiance the way Spectre has other early fighting builds? It seems counterintuitive to me that LD spends time farming Radiance when his late game isn't that great. He can potentially be good at early fighting since he has that power spike at level 5 and his bear is tanky early game (opposite of Spectre who's tanky late game).

(2) Matchups - What kind of heroes is LD good against and what kind of heroes wreck him? I play at low MMR so I usually ban PA, who can blink onto him and also builds deso, which kills the bear before the bear gets armor talent/items. Are there more important heroes to ban?

(3) Farming - Once laning phase is over, do I hide the druid in the trees while the bear slowly attacks the wave? Or is it better to have both quickly attack the wave and run away? I also can't tell when it is better to dip into jungle or pressure the tower.

Thanks for the help in advance.

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Bane and clockwork tips and trick?

Posted: 15 Mar 2018 07:27 AM PDT

Im a guardian pleb looking for tips and tricks for clockwork and bane, like things to avoid doing, fun builds and useful stuff.

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SF magic is op compared to SF hitter what do you say?

Posted: 15 Mar 2018 03:34 AM PDT

have been playin sf lately and i noticed that i won most of the game by playing magic build compared to low winning rate when i play hitter magic. are you guys agree ?

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How do I gank with smoke?

Posted: 15 Mar 2018 05:31 AM PDT

Im a guardian scrub learn how to gank/roam. People recommended using smoke to gank but, How do i use it, I know it disappears when you get close a enemy or tower. How do you close the distance without them running away and when i ask for smoke ganks my carries don't come with me. I can't gank alone because my hero doesn't have solo gank potential.

Sorry for my bad English, I'm not a native.

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Tips on roaming and ganking

Posted: 15 Mar 2018 04:36 AM PDT

Im guardian scrub looking got any useful tips and tricks for roaming and ganking mid. I mainly play earth spirit for roaming.

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how is windranger this patch?

Posted: 14 Mar 2018 11:35 PM PDT

i wanna try to learn windranger any tips for me? and what pos is she played? thanks

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