Smite - SPL Roster Changes Mega-Thread


SPL Roster Changes Mega-Thread

Posted: 12 Jan 2018 02:48 PM PST

With Season 5 quickly approaching, new orgs joining, new teams forming, it's about damn time we had a Mega-Thread for the roster changes. We've seen many posts (Special shoutout to /u/Lycatic, obligatory link to his post) but we wanted to make a more centralized post that we can pin and more easily modify.

This post will be updated regularly with new information when it comes.


North America:

Old Team Name Role Current Status/New Team
ALG *Neirumah Support Noble
Cryptik *FineOkay Solo Noble
LG Mask Jungle Break or Retirement
Noble *Whalrus Solo Free Agent
Noble *Wubbn Support Free Agent
Trifecta Aror Support Free Agent
Trifecta Cynosure Jungle Free Agent
Trifecta KikiSoCheeky Solo Free Agent

There's still some confusion about ALG, but as far as I know the team hasn't disbanded, just rebranded.

There's also some doubt about Hurriwind's situation, namely caused by this tweet, but I'm not convinced he's been kicked or anything as he's still retweeted Trifecta stuff.

*The tweets announcing these changes have been removed or are simply too old, but the veracity of these changes is not in question


Europe:

Team IGN Role Region New Team
Elevate DeathPanter Mid EU Free Agent
Elevate N0Numbers Solo EU Military*
Obey Alliance EmilZy Support EU Free Agent
VAC BigManTingz Support EU Free Agent

*N0Numbers, as an Israeli, has to join the IDF for mandatory service.

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Give to Cerb more Nike's Crowns. Ty

Posted: 12 Jan 2018 12:40 PM PST

Team Rival SMITE 2018 Announcement

Posted: 12 Jan 2018 12:57 PM PST

Official Rival/Mythic Ruling

Posted: 12 Jan 2018 12:56 PM PST

Mythic exposed

Posted: 12 Jan 2018 01:28 PM PST

Comic - Family Diversity

Posted: 12 Jan 2018 09:16 AM PST

PBM on Mythic

Posted: 12 Jan 2018 01:37 PM PST

The current state of the Smite scene in Latin America

Posted: 12 Jan 2018 02:09 PM PST

The Smite World Championship is over and the 5th season of Smite is upon us. It seems like Hi-Rez has big plans for NA/EU regions. But not for us, in Latin America we still haven´t received our 2017 corresponding prize awards. Not even our 1st Split of 2017. It isn´t just a team, it aboards all the teams of the region, Smite and Paladins as well. The clear responsible of this situation are Level Up and Hi-rez.

In another occasions we´ve tried to raise our voices in this same space but we did not receive any official answer. Only promises were made, and clearly none of them were truly backed up with actions.

Our previous representatives have competed in disadvantageous situations compared to any other region. Nevertheless, we´ve always tried to get better ignoring the fact that little resources are given to us. Even our prices have been substantially reduced along 2017.

Against any prediction our teams have achieved incredibly worthy showings in internacional stances. We don´t deserve this kind of treat.

Even though the future is uncertain we´d hope to start competing soon, compete for an unfavored region, a region that never had real chances given the system that´s been designed. This seems like a perfect scene for everyone but the players. As long as they keep themselves quiet, everything stays the same.

I´d like to ask two clear questions and receive clear answers:

When will be the Latin American teams will received their well earned money you haven´t paid yet?

Considering that every SPL player´s salary will be 30.000 USD/Y plus the Splits and LANs prize-money. What are Hi-Rez´s plans for Brazil and Latin America as a whole in Season 5?

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EmilZy leaving Obey Alliance

Posted: 12 Jan 2018 01:05 PM PST

Showerthought: Terra is immune to knock-ups. Terra is immune to the CC of Sylvanus' "Wrath of Terra."

Posted: 12 Jan 2018 07:10 PM PST

r/smite is leaking into r/hearthstone.

Posted: 12 Jan 2018 03:16 AM PST

Professor Deathwalker teaching us how to gank

Posted: 12 Jan 2018 04:03 PM PST

Some interesting facts about Terra's AA passive

Posted: 12 Jan 2018 03:16 PM PST

I've been playing quite a bit of Terra lately for research purposes, and I discovered some interesting bits about the AA part of her passive.

For those of you unaware, probably more than a few because it's a bit weird for a guardian and a lot of people don't pay attention to guardians much anyway, Terra has two passives. First off, if she has a standing stone up (her walls or her monolith), she is immune to knockups. Secondly, her basics deal extra damage and apply a slow as long as her standing stones are up. This allows for some pretty interesting behaviors.

  1. Her boosted basics will activate Soul Reaver, Gem of Isolation, and Ethereal Staff. It will not activate Polynomicon, however.

  2. Her boosted basics will apply Divine Ruin. If you decide to get wild and buy Toxic Blade along with the Divine Ruin, you can cause your enemy to receive no healing for 6 seconds by hitting them with 3 boosted basic attacks. Yes, this includes fountain healing.

  3. Her boosted basics will proc Stone of Binding.

  4. Her boosted basics will proc Evolved Shaman's Ring.

  5. Her boosted basics will apply Spear of Magus's effects, along with Demonic Grip.

5. Her boosted basics will take 2 points away from Kaldr's health.

EDIT: I was wrong about the original number 5, I apologize. As a random side note, Cabrakan's 1 does hit Kaldr twice though.

TL;DR LOWREZ TERRA IS OP PLS NERF REMOVE PASSIVE AND MAKE HER DEAL 2 DAMAGE ON ALL ABILITIES

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I ruined it :(

Posted: 12 Jan 2018 03:00 PM PST

Showerthought: Terra can now fight two of her children on the new Conquest map (new titans)

Posted: 12 Jan 2018 05:24 PM PST

The new Order and Chaos titans are Themis and Cronus, respectively. They are both Terra's (Gaia's) children. If Terra is being played, she'll be fighting either one of them depending on which side she is on.

I know Nox can also be made to fight her own children, but if Terra is picked she'll have to fight one of her own no matter what.

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Aror no longer on Trifecta. Apparently Trifecta cleaned house...

Posted: 12 Jan 2018 12:37 PM PST

My opinion on the Mythic controversy

Posted: 12 Jan 2018 05:40 AM PST

Time to farm easy karma with the new circlejerk.

"It's all Reddits fault xd"

Now give me 1,000 updoots.

Alright, I'll be serious. Unless you've been living under a rock, you may have heard of the recent controversy surrounding the eSports organization, MythicGG, be it on this subreddit or via Twitter. This organization also posted on r/Smite an explanation of what they offered and that they are leaving because of all of the hate thrown their way.

Unless you're an idiot or looking to farm karma, then you will know that this whole issue isn't on specifically the Smite Twitter community nor the r/Smite community. Looking at it from an unbiased perspective, this whole drama really started when we as the community, were told that at Worlds we would get information about new orgs that are joining Smite- "orgs" implies more than one, so the announcement wasn't solely for Splyce.

We were then told that we would be told this information would be distributed at a later date. This is going to be a nitpick but why hype up your community with news that is hugely beneficial to the game they love and then tell them to wait?

While we waited, we received leaked information about new orgs and the orgs that would stay in Smite. And to our surprise, the org that has been good to our game and our community, Team Rival, would be booted off in favor of what appeared to be a sketchy new org.

This is important to look at it from the community's eyes. We've been dealt a number of blows by small orgs that treat their players unfairly (Team Eager, Paradigm). It is crucial to understand that we don't want anymore orgs to come in and end up either contributing nothing to the game or worse, end up taking away from the game and community in a negative way. And to have a relatively unheard of organization to make their way into Smite will ring some bells.

And as mentioned earlier, the fan favorite, Team Rival, has been nothing but a positive force and was a very welcome addition to the eSports scene. And to have them removed to make room for a potentially harmful organization, seems bad for the eSports scene.

And to finally spark the flames, there was the leaking of a DM from Mattypocket which suggested that he had some involvement with Mythic. Mattypocket is a controversial figure in the community and with the whole debacle surrounding Mirage not so long ago, it's not hard to imagine why he got such a negative backlash. And it didn't help the situation that there were rumors being spread that he owned the organization, which made many players begin to resent Mythic. The hate did not come from nowhere.

What fanned the flames of this fiery drama was the reaction of the Smite community as a whole, not only r/Smite.

Now these fires could've been easily extinguished if Mythic responded to the criticisms in a professional matter. After all, the community only wanted information, which was being delayed with no good reason. Mythic could've easily explained what they offered and a bit of their history and goals with their Smite team and all of the fires would've been put out, and they could've even be appreciated by the community just as Team Rival was. But unfortunately that didn't quite happen with Mythic's unprofessional response on Reddit and when they stated that they were leaving when they had a huge chance to clear up misinformation and still be successful.

With the whole situation explained, I want to touch upon other aspects of the situation.

Some people are acting as if Mythic was this massive eSports organization with a large presence. This is not true however. To compare, Mythic would be similar in size to Team Rival. Mythic is only known for their CS:GO involvement which wouldn't help grow Smite if their only streamers play CS:GO. The loss of Mythic is certainly negative but it's not a huge blow as some users have been blowing out of proportion.

This whole drama could've been avoided if Hi-Rez did not milk the information they had, that the community wanted, and simply told which organizations were joining Smite and also explained some of the more controversial decisions as why Rival was booted off.

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Season 5 Rosterpocalypse

Posted: 12 Jan 2018 06:32 AM PST

Hi! i'm Lycatic and I have done things like this before during the summer split Here Like in the last post i need sources not just rumors or troll announcements makes my life easier.

I also start school on Monday so posts may not instant but will be updated

Team IGN Role Region New Team
LG Mask Jungle NA Hiatus/Retirement
Trifecta Cynosure Jungle NA Free Agent
Trifecta KikiSoCheeky Solo NA Free Agent
VAC BigManTingz Support EU Free Agent
ALG Weak3n Jungle NA Free Agent
ALG Oceans Mid/Adc NA Free Agent
ALG Metyankey Mid/Adc NA Free Agent
ALG CycloneSpin Solo NA Free Agent
ALG NeilMah Support NA Noble
Noble Whalrus Solo NA Free Agent
Cryptik FineOkay Solo NA Noble
Noble Wubbn Support NA Free Agent
Elevate DeathPanter Mid EU FreeAgent
Elevate N0Numbers Solo EU Hiatus
Trifecta Aror Support NA Free Agent
Obey Emilzy Support EU Free Agent

Sources

Mask https://twitter.com/Mask33d/status/951572020764069889

Cynosure https://twitter.com/CynoSmite/status/951595073128419328

KikiSoCheeky https://twitter.com/KikiStar_/status/951619972144431104

Wubbn https://twitter.com/Wubbn_/status/947584298152026112

Whalrus https://www.reddit.com/r/Smite/comments/7hdz6z/fineokay_big_news_wowy_and_i_have_been_reunited_i/

FineOkay https://www.reddit.com/r/Smite/comments/7hdz6z/fineokay_big_news_wowy_and_i_have_been_reunited_i/

NeilMah https://www.reddit.com/r/Smite/comments/7nb82r/wubbn_kicked_from_noble_in_favor_of_neirumah/

Rest Of ALG https://twitter.com/Weak3n/status/947252900987797505 (Assuming No one is contracted)

BigManTingz https://twitter.com/BigManTingz_/status/950758512841379840

Emilzy https://twitter.com/EmilZySmite/status/951922004617293824

Aror https://twitter.com/ArorTheChunk/status/951887597965578240

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Hi-rez REALLY needs a new guy to handle talking with teams and players

Posted: 12 Jan 2018 06:51 AM PST

I say this because of the latest shit show with Mythic and Rival but this has been a glaring issue for a very long time. From balancing the game with pro's opinions to player wages to finding out whether or not your team is gonna be in the SPL next split its all been terribly done. Hi-rez needs someone with experience to deal with orgs and players, not just some random employee they have trying there best (this is assumed based on there performance).

I have heard countless pro's say on twitter and on stream that after like the first and second season Hi-rez has not listened to the pro's opinions about balance in any way at all. They have an email (or something???) that pro's are supposed to use to contact Hi-rez about those kinds of issues but Hi-rez never responds apparently.

Player wages are a big deal and Hi-rez has at least shown interest now in doing something about it with the new changes coming in season 5 but in the past they haven't been as interested. Paradigm had been doing shady stuff with wages for the entire season before they did anything to stop them. Now this could have been due to poor communication from players as well but Hi-rez should always know whats going on inside of every team money wise as they are the owners of the league. There have been other issues similar to this as well but this is the most recent/important one to date IMO.

And now we get to how they just randomly booted Rival for another team. Mythic is a smaller org that is up and coming in CS:GO, sure I can give them that, but kicking out a worlds finalist to do so is ridiculous. Rival isn't a pushover org either if were being honest (they actually have a bigger following on twitter than Mythic) so kicking them instead of a team like trifecta is mindblowingly dumb to me. The real issue here though is how Hi-rez handled this issue. They waited till days before worlds to tell Rival there out (sidenote: this could effect how players play in your tournament so probably not the best of ideas to go and say that to the top EU seed) which is just bad form by Hi-rez. What would have happened if Rival won worlds? It would have been an even worse shit show than it is right now or Hi-rez would have decided to not look like idiots and kick a different/no team.

Also in the future don't have a non employee try to talk to players for you, as you've seen people have random hate boners all over this community and Matty/Taco have the one of the biggest hate followings. (Just so I dont get pitchforked I don't care that it was Matty it could've been anyone and I still would've rathered Hi-rez manage there own scene.)

TL;DR: Hi-rez needs someone with experience to deal with orgs and players, not just some random employee they have trying there best (this is assumed based on there performance). There have been many glaring issues for sometime now and they need to be fixed for smite to grow as an Esport.

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This was my first HRX, it was amazing and just wanted to say thanks.

Posted: 12 Jan 2018 11:44 AM PST

Tl;Dr Was at HRX, met favorite casters, had a blast and wanted to say thanks to everyone Hi-Rez and the fans in attendance.

My wife and I were able to attend HRX this year and are already planning and saving for next year. We both worried that we may get bored or the days would stretch on and on with four days of non stop Smite but they did not. She had a blast as did I.

Best part for me was meeting my three favorite casters. On the first day we walk into the auditorium and what do you know Hinduman was sitting in the back row by himself. We ask if it's ok to join him and damn he was nice as hell. Chatted a bit with me, let me get a pic with him and watch part of the match. Off to a great start! Later in the day I spot F. out and about and asked if I could get a pic with him as well. Of course again super nice and fun and I look like a dumbass in the pic cause I was laughing and happy to meet him.

Day two and three were great for just enjoying the event. Sadly I never found a chance to get a pic with Anatoliy, Aggro or Taco. So here's hoping I can next year. However I still was trying to find Finch. Day four rolls around and right when we walk in the venue I see him, point at him and say 'I need a picture with you' lol. I feel bad for pointing and starting my introduction that way but I had thought I would turn up empty handed again. He was super nice and cool about all of it though. Sadly despite my amount of joy finally getting to chat with him and get a pic, it barely looks like I'm smiling cause I hate my smile and I was tired as hell lol

The whole event was great, the fans were all fun to be around, the casting as always brought a ton of energy to the games and we spent too much money at the merch booth. Just wanted to say thank you Hi-Rez for the event and thank you to Hindu, F. and Finch for seeing my crazy face and not running lol Looking forward to next year!

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Skin concept: Rock howler Skadi

Posted: 12 Jan 2018 05:59 AM PST

How Hi-Rez can learn something from Valve regarding the Rival/Mythic Drama

Posted: 12 Jan 2018 08:09 AM PST

I will assume you have heard about the drama regarding Rival and Mythic, which you can read about Mythic's side of the story here if not.

Anyways, within the last year or two Valve and the dota 2 community had a somewhat similar experience. Briefly, Valve has complete control over all of the invites to the International (AKA TI), Dota's version of SWC. When there was a controversial invite of Na'Vi, a well established and fan-favorite Org with a struggling team, there was significant push back from the community. They wondered why a flagging team (who ended up losing handily in the tournament that year) was invited over other teams. In response, Valve now has complete transparency about how invites will be given out to teams for TI8 this August (which can be found here if interested.) Basically, there is a well established point system for placing well in tournaments and the top 8 or so teams will get invites. There is no longer any confusion about who is invited and why. This transparency is absolutely vital for a crowd-funded tournament whose prize pool over 20 million dollars and the last place team (who may get the "shady" invite) gets about 60 thousand dollars.

Now, how does this relate to Smite and the current drama? What the dota community wanted was to open the black box that was Valve's invite process. I believe the Smite community is craving the same thing: we just want to know how the second best team in the world is suddenly without a place for next year and how an org that currently has zero influence in Smite could replace them. Had Hi-rez come out front of things and made an announcement regarding their thoughts I believe there would be little to no controversy. Instead fans are left with unreliable information from leaks which breeds drama. Hi-rez says they want to start crowd funding the SPL and SWC, but that requires trust and transparency about their practices. I hope they take a page from Valve's book and give the players, fans, Orgs, and potential sponsors the information they need to make proper decisions.

As a fan, I can disagree about the specific decisions made by Hi-Rez/Valve but I will always respect their transparency and honesty. The worst thing they can do is have suspicion about back-door dealings when a lot of money is on the line, as is the case for S5 of Smite and every TI for dota. People will wonder about nepotism and favoritism instead of focusing on playing and watching the games we love. I cannot blame Hi-Rez for how things went down after seeing the same kind of mistakes made by Valve; nobody gets it right every time. But I would urge them to consider complete transparency and prompt statements regarding decisions rather than teasing players and fans with an announcement of an announcement.

TLDR- In response to controversy about invites to the dota-equivalent of SWC (which has a massive prize pool), Valve now has complete transparency about how invites will be distributed in the future. Hi-rez should follow that model and let the community understand their thought process to avoid the drama frenzy that will inevitably accompany Rosterpocalypse and the new Season.

Editted for formatting and grammar.

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NRG Emilzy?

Posted: 12 Jan 2018 04:23 PM PST

I suspected its troll at first but I've noticed some things

1.Raffer took off NRG clan tag (whatever troll)

2.Emilzy and adapting duo queueing interesting

3.Emilzy leaves Obey now I'm thinking

4.In adapting discord Emilzy is now a mod or something now? (don't use discord really just noticed it but feel like I haven't seen him before)

This is just speculation just wondering what everyone else thinks! :)

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LG’S new jungle

Posted: 12 Jan 2018 08:30 PM PST

Who do you guys think LG should pick up in the jungle?? I hope they don't let Aquarius go because I think he has the potential to be one of the top solos.

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Xb1 servers

Posted: 12 Jan 2018 06:28 PM PST

Currently down? Keep getting "unable to connect."

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