Super Smash Bros - Official r/smashbros Monthly Voted Tier List (November 2017): Voting!


Official r/smashbros Monthly Voted Tier List (November 2017): Voting!

Posted: 04 Dec 2017 06:13 PM PST

If UCF can make shield drops consistent, then maybe it can make the November Monthly Voted Tier List consistent as well. Let's not think about the past, though; we've got a November tier list this time, with December's 2GG Championship to spice it up a bit!


MIIS WITH CUSTOMS ARE LISTED AS XXXX, MIIS WITHOUT CUSTOMS ARE LISTED AS 1111

ALL MIIS ARE AVERAGE SIZE AND DO NOT HAVE CUSTOM EQUIPMENT

YOU DO NOT HAVE TO VOTE FOR EVERY CHARACTER


THIS MONTH'S NOTABLE TOURNAMENT PLACINGS

Methodology

Tournaments Used:


Bayonetta: 3rd at the 2GG Championship (Salem)

Bowser: 17th at Umebura 30 (Kisha)

Bowser Jr.: N/A

Captain Falcon: 9th at Super FamiCon 2017 (Fatality)

Charizard: N/A

Cloud: 1st at 2GGC: MKLeo Saga (Tweek, with Donkey Kong/Bayonetta)

Corrin: 5th at Midwest Mayhem 10 (Cosmos)

Dark Pit: N/A

Diddy Kong: 2nd at the 2GG Championship (ZeRo)

Donkey Kong: 17th at MKLeo Saga (HIKARU)

Dr. Mario: 17th at Sumabato 22 (Tsumusuto)

Duck Hunt: 25th at 2GGC: MKLeo Saga (Raito)

Falco: N/A

Fox: 2nd at IBP Masters Showdown (Larry Lurr, with Donkey Kong/Bowser)

Ganondorf: 49th at 2GGC: MKLeo Saga (Rickles, with Cloud)

Greninja: 5th at Umebura 30 (Lea)

Ike: 25th at IBP Masters Showdown (SM)

Jigglypuff: N/A

King Dedede: 33rd at Sumabato 22 (Zaki)

Kirby: N/A

Link: 33rd at 2GGC: MKLeo Saga (T)

Little Mac: 17th at IBP Masters Showdown (pu55yk1ng)

Lucario: 13th at 2GGC: MKLeo Saga (Tsu-)

Lucas: 9th at Super FamiCon 2017 (Mekos)

Lucina: 5th at IBP Masters Showdown (Mr. E)

Luigi: 5th at the 2GG Championship (Elegant)

Mario: 9th at IBP Masters Showdown (Ally)

Marth: 9th at Rikabura 8 (Fuwa)

Mega Man: 7th at Umebura 30

Meta Knight: 25th at 2GGC: MKLeo Saga (AC)

Mewtwo: 5th at 2GGC: MKLeo Saga (WaDi)

Mr. Game & Watch: 3rd at Port Priority 2 (KOSSismoss)

Ness: 5th at Rikabura 8 (Gackt)

Olimar: 17th at IBP Masters Showdown (Dougles)

Pac-Man: 33rd at Umebura 30 (Banku)

Palutena: 49th at Sumabato 22 (Lararashi)

Peach: 17th at 2GGC: MKLeo Saga (Samsora)

Pikachu: 2nd at Super FamiCon 2017 (ESAM)

Pit: 3rd at Umebura 30 (Earth, with Corrin/Dark Pit)

R.O.B.: 49th at Sumabato 22 (OCEAN & Sopmo)

Robin: 7th at Midwest Mayhem 10 (Skorpio)

Rosalina & Luma: 4th at the 2GG Championship (Dabuz)

Roy: 16th at the 2GG Championship (Komorikiri, with Cloud)

Ryu: 2nd at Sumabato 22 (Chansu)

Samus: 33rd at Umebura 30 (Mona)

Sheik: 9th at 2GGC: MKLeo Saga (Mr. R)

Shulk: 13th at Sumabato 22 (Kome)

Sonic: 2nd at 2GGC: MKLeo Saga (KEN)

Toon Link: 1st at Sumabato 22 (Sigma)

Villager: 25th at Midwest Mayhem 10 (Panda Bair)

Wario: 33rd at Sumabato 22 (yuto)

Wii Fit Trainer: N/A

Yoshi: 9th at Midwest Mayhem 10 (Seth)

Zelda: 33rd at Sumabato 22 (Masuda, with Robin)

Zero Suit Samus: 4th at 2GGC: MKLeo Saga (Nairo)


HOW TO VOTE

There are a total of 5 general tiers; S Tier, A Tier (divided into A+, A, and A- tier), B Tier (divided into B+, B, and B- tier), C Tier (divided into C+, C, and C- tier), and D Tier. Based on the description of each tier in the poll, you will vote where you think each character belongs, with S Tiers being the best and D Tiers being the worst. Using my magical, mythical, and totally ballin' powers (aka basic math), I will transmogrify all of the polls together to come up with the month's tier list!


Click here to fill out the poll!


In the comments below, you can look for a certain character's name.

DO NOT USE UPVOTES TO VOTE CHARACTERS UP OR DOWN ON THE LIST!

These act as discussion prompts, allowing people to talk about said characters. They can be used to talk about how good characters are in the meta, how these characters are played, how to play against these characters, and really anything else, as long as it's about the character listed and how they play in Smash 4. Try to keep conversation constructive! No opinions are wrong!

There will also be a section to post your personal tier list, if you'd like to deem our community voted tier list as incorrect and post your own, with just as little credibility share your own views on the meta!

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Thank you for supporting 2GG throughout the entire year!

Posted: 04 Dec 2017 12:20 PM PST

Hey All, Champ here from 2GG,

On behalf of the team, we would like to thank everyone for supporting us and make this year possible. Everyone in the 2GG Team gave it our all to make all of this become a reality.

From Genesis Saga all the way to the Championship, it has been a wild ride and even with all the obstacles and hurdles, we're very happy to be able to provide this for the community and gave the experience people wanted.

Everyone in the community plays a big role in this:

  • Pool Captains who help make our event run smoothly
  • Everyone who bring set ups for as much smash as possible
  • Vendors and sponsors who makes our events more than just a tournament with their contributions
  • Players competing and giving us a spectacle
  • Commentators being the narrative of our events and make it come to life
  • Attendees spectating and enjoying Smash
  • Viewers at home supporting from afar
  • Everyone who donated into our Compendium to give all the Smashers an experience they'll never forget
  • Production team creating an experience never been seen before
  • and everyone else who has contributed to make this all happen

The Championship was an amazing weekend for us and we hope the same for all of you. Once again, thank you.

We would also like to give a special thanks to Red Bull for helping us return to melee this year. It was a goal we wanted to do for Phase 2 and with their support it was possible.

As for 2018, we are finalizing the final details right now and will be announcing Phase 3 very soon so stay tune! It's pretty ambitious but we think the Smash Community will be very excited about it around the nation.

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PG Mayday explains why Smash 4 doesn't get much coverage on esports news outlets

Posted: 04 Dec 2017 12:57 PM PST

VGBC | Rishi on the nuances of MDVA and his desire to moonlight as Young Link/Doc dual main

Posted: 04 Dec 2017 04:44 PM PST

WHAT'S AFTER PLATINUM? || The Reads Episode 32 ft. Lovage

Posted: 04 Dec 2017 12:07 PM PST

Newly opened Super Arcade is back, and so are we! Check out this trailer for the new SoCal PM Biweely!

Posted: 04 Dec 2017 08:38 AM PST

New Zealand Smash 4 Power Ranking for the 2017 season!

Posted: 04 Dec 2017 02:44 PM PST

Suggestion for Suar’s Segments at 2GGC

Posted: 04 Dec 2017 03:37 PM PST

Like most people, I loved the production value of 2GGC. This weekend definitely marked an advancement in terms of Smash 4 production. However, this does not mean everything was perfect, nor am I suggesting it should be on the 1st attempt.

Suar's number desk (I have no clue what the actual title of this is) was a bit tough to follow and not all that engaging. I believe the main reason for this was the lack of visuals. Suar was giving great information that I think had the potential to give context to these sets that new/casual viewers may not have realized. This information was often missing the mark for me a lot of the time because there was nothing on the screen to serve as a companion to the information.

As a teacher (Suar is as well I believe), I compare this to me trying to teach math without writing anything on the board for my students to follow. For example, at one point Suar was explaining how Leo's record against top players looks a lot better when you remove his sets with Zero. I get this point and I agree it's significant, but it would have had so much more impact if there was a side by side with Leo's actual record on one side and Leo's record minus the Zero sets on the other side.

Like I said, I loved the production otherwise, but this is an area that I feel could be improved. I'm not sure how far in advance the segments were planned, but some of the ideas I suggested shouldn't take a ton of effort and would produce a much better product for new and old viewers.

TLDR: Suar's statistics were awesome, but IMO they failed to achieve the desired impact due to lack of supporting visual aids.

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Who will be the highest ranked newcomer to the 2017 SSBMRank?

Posted: 04 Dec 2017 10:21 AM PST

Now that the last big tournament of 2017 (as far as we know) is done, I thought this would be interesting to bring up

I'm going to count a newcomer as someone who was not on the 2016 SSBMRank.

Personally I think it's a competition between Ginger, Hax, and ARMY

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Genesis 5 main registration ends TONIGHT 11:59PM PST! Venue fee increases to $80 after!

Posted: 04 Dec 2017 01:27 PM PST

Register: https://smash.gg/tournament/genesis-5/register

Have you seen our HYPE trailer yet? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJhnROycdV0

We're looking to make Genesis a bigger better overall experience for everyone this year so there will be tons of fun things for y'all to do during your downtime, including a row of arcade machines like Beatmania and MvC2! Even if you just come to spectate you'll have a great time!

Got your hotel booked yet? This year hotel rooms start at 139/night, that's $60/night cheaper than last year! Book here: https://aws.passkey.com/e/49250038

Airports The closest airport to GENESIS 5 is Oakland (OAK). SFO is further but you can get to the venue on BART from either airport. SJC is not recommended.

Want to save even more money at Genesis? Volunteer for us! For 6 hours of work you get: - Top 8 seating ($40 level) - Free shirt ($20 value) - Food

Fill out the form here: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1fuvjiy6UMhFNUrN_6eWVan4V7Kq-4m-jqndBuLp6LRc/viewform?edit_requested=true

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2018 Melee Guides Day 4: Ness Melee Tech Guide

Posted: 04 Dec 2017 10:12 AM PST

Hey everyone, I'm back with Day 4 of the 2018 Melee Guides, this time involving Ness! This guide is a very upgraded guide compared to last year, as I wasn't too involved with Ness outside of YoYo Glitch until now. The total number of techs covered went from 7->16.

So with all that in mind, here is the new 2018 Ness Melee Techs Guide! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qw73OvAKdF0

Added new sections for: Triangle Jump Reverse Nair DJC Aerial Aerial OOS Dash Attack 1st & 2nd Hitbox Tricks Ness & Doc/Mario Super Slide Wall Infinite PK Thunder 2 Rock Slide PSI Dashing

Updated Information For: YoYo Glitch. Added More Jackets and Information

Extra Information:

Added new music and linked them in description

Reminder: The SuperYoYo Glitch Bounty is still up until 2018 starts.

Anyways hope you all enjoy! Tomorrow's Guide will be Zelda!

Previous Guide: https://www.reddit.com/r/smashbros/comments/7hahfw/2018_melee_guides_day_3_pichu_melee_tech_guide/

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On Melee maybe not being at EVO (from a traditional FG player)

Posted: 04 Dec 2017 11:09 AM PST

Some people seem butthurt about Melee potentially not being at EVO next year. Here are my thoughts as a traditional fighting game player (I don't play Melee competitively but I'm a huge fan of the game, it's fun to watch and takes a lot of skill to play well.)

When people say "Melee doesn't need EVO" they are absolutely right. The Melee/Smash 4 communities combined are larger than all of the other FGC games combined. That's great and the Smash community definitely deserves it, but that also means that there are several events comparable to EVO in scale for Smash (Genesis, Big House, etc). The same is NOT true for, let's say, the anime fighting game community. Sure, there are events like Frosty Faustings which is focused on Guilty Gear and other anime fighting games, but it's not even close to the scale of EVO. Basically, Smash has several events that could stand in place of EVO in scale and the quality of players it attracts, but for many other games EVO is the ONLY supermajor.

Melee does not need EVO, but Guilty Gear, NRS games, Marvel etc do, so it's unfair to those games which have been EVO staples for over a decade to get sidelined for Smash when a large majority of Smash players don't enter or even care to watch anything that is not Smash (while most FGC players play and/or watch at least a few FGC games). This isn't meant to be an insult, it's easily corroborated by entrant statistics.

I get especially annoyed when some in the Melee community complain about EVO not catering to their every want, ie, top 64 not being 3/5. In case you didn't know, NO GAME gets 3/5 top 64 at EVO, it's not logistically possible. It would be incredibly unfair to non-Smash FGC players for them to get 2/3 in top 64 and for Smash to get 3/5.

If you would step outside of the Smash bubble and look at EVO from the perspective of the community that made it happen and the long history it has, maybe you would understand why the broader FGC often views the Smash community as whiny and entitled. Melee is a great game, but I really dislike the attitudes of some of the community.

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Dreamland Crack Explained (xpost/r/ssbm)

Posted: 04 Dec 2017 12:01 PM PST

Dayton, OH Fall 2017 Sm4sh Power Rankings

Posted: 04 Dec 2017 09:15 AM PST

Greninja's Shadow Sneak SLIDE

Posted: 04 Dec 2017 10:48 AM PST

Wavedropping guide

Posted: 04 Dec 2017 12:35 PM PST

Sick new DK Montage "PRIMAL 2" by DMG AgOnePlus!

Posted: 04 Dec 2017 02:15 PM PST

What specifically makes Jigglypuff bad in this game?

Posted: 04 Dec 2017 06:07 PM PST

Is there a more normie Super Smash Bros subreddit?

Posted: 04 Dec 2017 06:30 PM PST

I like SSB but the tournaments and competitive side isn't for me. This subreddit seems to be mainly that so is there one for more casual players?

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Pittsburgh Smash 4 Presents: Round Table Smash II: A Smash 4 regional with a $500 pot bonus on January 13th! feat IcyMist, Nom, Midnight, and more to come!

Posted: 04 Dec 2017 08:02 PM PST

University of British Columbia Fall 2017 PR w/ Odyssey Player Profiles!

Posted: 04 Dec 2017 12:22 PM PST

Hey everyone. I'm back to introduce the UBC Smash 4 Fall Power Rankings for 2017!

Graphic: https://imgur.com/a/Fn3vE
Writeup: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1fbDKjsU9SAcvSxdeZcQQP3BPZjOcFlsKRFjCDwu0h7I

Our Winter 2018 season will commence in January. Be on the lookout for UBC's Collegiate StarLeague (CSL) team in 2018, who won the BC qualifier championship back in October. We are excited for the upcoming year, and look forward to what's in store for our scene!

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Nairo vs Leo

Posted: 04 Dec 2017 01:13 PM PST

Now that the first and second placements are set in stone, who has the better resume to be considered Third?

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ESPN: [Redacted] takes home the crown at DreamHack Winter

Posted: 04 Dec 2017 12:48 PM PST

Why is the 2GGC Championship considered very important?

Posted: 04 Dec 2017 06:30 AM PST

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