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Super Smash Bros - Daily Discussion Thread 12/19/17

Daily Discussion Thread 12/19/17

Posted: 18 Dec 2017 11:09 PM PST

Welcome to the Daily Discussion Thread series on /r/smashbros! Inspired by /r/SSBM and /r/hiphopheads's DDTs, you can post here:

  • General questions about Smash

  • General discussion (tentatively allowing for some off-topic discussion)

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Samox Update and Metagame Stocking Stuffer

Posted: 19 Dec 2017 10:50 AM PST

Ho ho ho: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGbLweE0jmc

Well, this is fortuitous timing - the top two members of club "Soon" make videos on nearly the same freaking day to share essentially the same freaking message that "good things are happening; please understand".

My better half from North Carolina is getting healthier (btw, he inspired me to pick up a plant-based diet while I was down there; YAY KALE) and I am getting closer to being done with Metagame.

Of course, in light of the fact that my last prognostication was that I'd be done with the doc at around this time - not "mostly done" - I felt like it would be nice to share a section of the documentary with you all.

I chose a part of Episode 4: Fire on the Mountain for a couple of reasons - first (as I mention in the video) it's a pretty self-contained story; it departs a bit from the main narrative and sort of does its own thing, so I had a feeling this section would do well as a stand alone piece.

In addition, I chose it because it gave me an opportunity to put BACK IN a part which I'm relatively certain won't make the final cut of the full episode - namely, the "teams" section. In the context of a longer episode, this extra bit drags down the momentum too much for my taste, but in the context of a sneak peak, I felt like it would serve its original purpose well - to give us a glimpse into Armada's teams story.

Some may notice there's less of what you might call "heart" in this section (emotional stuff). I think that's just a consequence of it being somewhat separate from the main narrative lines (this was also part of the reason I wanted to cut it down in the final, full episode).

Feel free to give any feedback you have, impressions, criticisms etc.

Also, just to be clear - that opening segment was meant to be tongue-in-cheek; yes I do feel guilty for not meeting my deadlines, but I'm not letting it get to me. All I want to do is make this thing the best it can be as soon as I can, so that when it does finally land, the crater it blows out will be big and deep.

I need to cram it with every last bit of kale I have, is what I'm getting at.

Going forward, I'm going to mirror what PPMD is doing and not set any more goal lines until there's actually, for sure, a real release date. If anyone asks me, I'll just give them the truth - which is a disappointing, but factual "soon".

Hopefully the stars will align and PP and I will emerge together from the depths of our own struggles at the same moment, but even if we don't, it looks like we're both on the right track and will get there on time, in our own time.

CHOO CHOO MOFO CAN'T STOP THIS TRAIN (WITHOUT A YOYO)

…and I'm out.

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Phil can comfortably be a Full Time Streamer at 250 Subs!!!!

Posted: 19 Dec 2017 01:50 PM PST

Consider subbing to the man. Amazing streamer, values and remembers all his subs, has a set schedule, does plenty of analysis, and its just a great time to hang out. Phil's a legend, legendary commentary throughout time as well as a skilled player in his own right that's done a ton for the game. Right now he's trying to pursue the dream as a full time streamer, and he just hit 150!

https://www.twitch.tv/doyouphilsme

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*emotional* c9 | mango time capsule for 2018

Posted: 19 Dec 2017 05:34 PM PST

Wobbles, one of the most creative players of all time, and his retired IC's

Posted: 19 Dec 2017 04:48 PM PST

Metagame will definitely be worth the little extra wait: revisit this masterpiece of a trailer and be in awe!

Posted: 19 Dec 2017 06:19 PM PST

Did anyone save The Most Satisfying SSBM Video?

Posted: 19 Dec 2017 11:47 AM PST

I know this is a long shot but there was a relaxing Melee combo video titled: "The Most Satisfying SSBM Video In The World" that got taken down on Youtube. I was curious if anyone still had this video laying around and could upload it. Thanks.

Original Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idJ0W-ah-fY

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Getting off of the ledge as DK

Posted: 19 Dec 2017 09:12 AM PST

VoiD's views/opinion on the Doubles format

Posted: 19 Dec 2017 12:19 PM PST

ESAM's end of 2017 Tier List Part 1: Bottom Tier

Posted: 19 Dec 2017 01:13 PM PST

SSB64 - 2018 Championship Series

Posted: 19 Dec 2017 08:59 PM PST

Busters & Bandits Combo Video - The Return to Super Arcade ft. Sosa, Venom, Jose V, and more!

Posted: 19 Dec 2017 12:16 PM PST

Smash Masters League(Global Esports League like Capcom Cup for Smash Hosted by Esports Arena)

Posted: 19 Dec 2017 06:54 PM PST

Details: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/210979079?t=58m20sec

If someone wants to make a TLDR I will update the main post with the details.

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/r/SmashBros's - 2017 - 20 Best Smash 4 Sets - Day 9

Posted: 19 Dec 2017 03:53 PM PST

Welcome to an ongoing poll where we will try to see what /r/smashbros thinks are the 20 best Smash 4 sets of 2017.

Yesterday, ESAM vs Ally Losers Top 32 at 2GGC: Civil War won the poll with 13/56 (23.2%) of the vote.

MKLeo vs Kameme Winners Eighths at Frostbite 2017 got the most upvotes yesterday and thus was added to the poll. Thanks to /u/willbrown630 for the nomination!

How it works:

  • Vote in the poll below for what you think is the best group in the set.

  • Nominate a set to be added to the poll in the comments. Do not nominate a set if you see that they've already been nominated. Please post a VOD or video link to the set, as well as a reason why the set should be nominated (excellent play, the meaning of the set, etc).

  • Upvote the sets that you would like to see on the poll.

  • The next day, the set with the most upvotes will be added to the poll.

  • Grand Finals Bracket Resets count as the same set - just one bigger set.

  • Singles and Doubles sets are eligible for nomination.

  • Please do not downvote people.

  • Please remember to upvote this thread if you want to see more people's opinions in this ranking!

VODs:

  • Luhtie vs ZeRo Losers Top 96 at 2GGC: Civil War - VOD

  • Nairo vs WaDi Losers Quarters at Super Smash Con 2017 - VOD

  • ZeRo vs Ranai Winners Eighths at EVO 2017 - VOD

  • Mr.R vs ZeRo Losers Top 16 at 2GGC: MKLeo Saga - VOD

  • MKLeo vs Kameme Winners Eighths at Frostbite 2017 - VOD

  • T vs Abadango Winners Quarters at 2GGC: Civil War - VOD

Vote here: Luhtie/ZeRo, Nairo/WaDi, ZeRo/Ranai, Mr.R/ZeRo, MKLeo/Kameme, T/Abadango

Rank Player 1 Player 2 Tournament Round Result VOD
1 TSM ZeRo (DiddyKong) Tsu (Lucario) Frostbite 2017 Grand Finals 3-1, 3-2 VOD
2 NRG Nairo (ZeroSuitSamus) (Bowser) TSM ZeRo (DiddyKong) Super Smash Con 2017 Grand Finals 3-2, 3-2 VOD
3 MVG Salem (Bayonetta) TSM ZeRo (DiddyKong) EVO 2017 Grand Finals 3-2, 3-2 VOD
4 MVG FOX MKLeo (Cloud) BSD Elegant (Luigi) GTX 2017 Grand Finals 3-2, 3-2 VOD
5 MVG FOX MKLeo (MetaKnight) TSM ZeRo (DiddyKong) 2GG Championship Grand Finals 2-3, 3-1 VOD & VOD 2
6 BSD Elegant (Luigi) C9 Ally (Mario) 2GG Championship Playoffs 3-2 VOD
7 TSM ZeRo (DiddyKong) C9 Ally (Mario) Smash 'n' Splash 3 Grand Finals 3-1, 3-2 VOD
8 PG ESAM (Samus) (Mewtwo) C9 Ally (Mario) 2GGC: Civil War Losers Top 32 3-1 VOD
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Karisuma 16 Grand Finals: Sigma (Toon Link) vs. Yuzu (Rosalina)

Posted: 19 Dec 2017 03:37 PM PST

/r/smashbros - 2017 - Top 20 Best Melee Sets - Day 9

Posted: 19 Dec 2017 03:38 PM PST

Welcome to an ongoing poll where we will try to see what /r/smashbros thinks are the 20 best Melee sets of 2017.

Yesterday, Mew2King vs Leffen at Canada Cup 2017 (Grand Finals) won the poll!

Mew2King vs Plup at Smash Summit Spring 2017 got the most upvotes and therefore was added to the poll!

How it works:

  • Vote in the poll below for what you think is the best group in the set.

  • Nominate a set to be added to the poll in the comments. Do not nominate a set if you see that they've already been nominated. Please post a VOD or video link to the set, as well as a reason why the set should be nominated (excellent play, the meaning of the set, etc).

  • Upvote the sets that you would like to see on the poll. (please)

  • The next day, the set with the most upvotes will be added to the poll.

  • Grand Finals Bracket Resets count as the same set - just one bigger set.

  • Singles and Doubles sets are eligible for nomination.

  • Please do not downvote people. (please)

  • Please remember to upvote this thread if you want to see more people's opinions in this ranking!

Vote here: Armada/S2J, Armada+Android/Leffen+Ice, Hungrybox/Wizzrobe, Axe/SFAT, Crush/n0ne, Mew2King/Plup

Have fun!

Rank Player 1 Player 2 Tournament Round Result VOD
1 C9 Mang0 Falco TSM Leffen Fox Genesis 4 Loser's Quarters 3-2 VOD
2 C9 Mang0 Fox Marth [A]rmada Peach Royal Flush Grand Finals 3-2, 3-2 VOD
3 PG Plup Sheik [A]rmada Peach Fox The Big House 7 Winner's Semis 3-1 VOD
4 EG PPMD Falco and L0zR Fox Liquid Hungrybox Jigglypuff and Liquid Crunch Fox Bad Moon Rising 2 Loser's Quarters 3-2 VOD
5 EF MVG Mew2King Marth [A]rmada Peach Canada Cup 2017 Loser's Finals 3-2 VOD
6 Liquid Hungrybox Jigglypuff [A]rmada Fox GTX 2017 Grand Finals 3-2, 3-2 VOD
7 VGBC aMSa Yoshi EGtv.Crush Fox Battle of BC 2 Loser's Top 8 Qualifier 3-2 VOD
8 EF MVG Mew2King Marth TSM Leffen Fox Canada Cup 2017 Grand Finals 3-0, 3-2 VOD
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Project M Clips of the Week Episode 23

Posted: 19 Dec 2017 08:58 AM PST

Mew2king's opinion on how well each the supermajors were ran this year

Posted: 18 Dec 2017 11:42 PM PST

Q&A Interview with Lord tonight at 8PM! at twitch.tv/Kitsune_91

Posted: 19 Dec 2017 03:57 PM PST

Stream will be live when this post is 4 hours old!

Link: https://www.twitch.tv/Kitsune_91

Posting with permission on behalf of Kitsune91:

"Hi there! I'm Kitsune, a Melee twitch streamer and tonight (12/19/17) at 8:00 PM (PST) I will be hosting a one hour long live question & answer segment with San Jose's amazing Captain Falcon: Lord! The stream will take place at: www.twitch.tv/Kitsune_91 and it will be a good opportunity for you to learn more about Lord as a player and person! As a bonus, there will be gameplay going on at the same time so tune in to ask him any questions ranging from his favorite food, drink, etc. to Melee related stuff! Who knows, we may find out what he wants for Christmas? Hope to see you all there!"

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Yes or no: would changing tournament rules on Cloud and Bayo, in singles OR doubles, positively impact our scene's financial livelihood?

Posted: 19 Dec 2017 07:44 AM PST

To clarify: the question is not whether any of these rule changes should happen, but whether they would have a positive impact on the financial state of the Smash 4 scene, which is experiencing both a dearth of new sponsorships and declining viewership.

MY TWO CENTS: I think a ban on doubles Cloud would benefit our community's viewership heavily. I'm not sure anything else should be on the table. I do at least think that, if we banned Witch Time in singles, we might see a rise in viewership; I can't tell ya how many people I've talked to on Smash discords or on here that say they've watched the game less since Bayo's specials became so fundamental to it. But because Bayo as a whole character is not broken enough to be ban-worthy; because the logistics of banning an entire character from singles are difficult and obscure (we've never done it before); and because a ban on Witch Time, despite its practicality and moderation, is viewed as absurd or untenable by the community: there is effectively no solution to Bayo's current dominance. There is a quick and easy solution to the decline of Smash 4 doubles, though, and that's to ban Cloud.

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Sweet Dreams- A Jigglypuff Montage (Barny/Keyori)

Posted: 19 Dec 2017 12:45 PM PST

THANK YOU to all involved with the Twitch Smash Bash Invitational Tournament!

Posted: 18 Dec 2017 10:09 PM PST

From all of us, thank you so much for an incredible tournament! It had everything; amazing games, great production, and incredibly hilarious and amazing commentary. Seriously was in tears from laughing so hard from the commentary this tournament. It was awesome to not know who was going to win this tournament as well. Hopefully the players there leveled up and we can see more amazing play from these non-god players!

Thank you Blur, all the commentators, players, Spenser and the production staff, etc.!

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New player Difference between camping and edge guarding

Posted: 19 Dec 2017 05:05 PM PST

i have been playing smash 4 with my friends for a few weeks now and i get yelled at for staying by the ledge and called a camper. When it seems like others do the same thing and when i say its edge guarding they say no its not what the difference between edge guarding and camping?

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2018 Melee Guides Day 19: Captain Falcon Melee Tech Guide

Posted: 19 Dec 2017 02:20 AM PST

Hey everyone, I'm back with Day 19 of the 2018 Melee Guides, this time involving Falcon! This guide is going up earlier than normal because I do not know when I would be able to get online today past this point. Goes into a few more Falcon techs that are both stylish and useful.

Anyways, here is the new 2018 Captain Falcon Melee Techs Guide! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAF69hGJjdQ

Added new sections for:

Triple Aerials

Raptor Boost Edge Cancel

PS Rock Ledge Cancel

Updated information for:

NIL's Yoshi's -> NIL Yoshi's / FoD (Although the title screen did not reflect that change it is changed in the video and info segment part)

Extra Information:

Cool music and timestamps as always.

Anyways hope you all enjoy! Tomorrow's Guide will be Ice Climbers!

Previous Guide: https://www.reddit.com/r/smashbros/comments/7kncip/2018_melee_guides_day_18_pikachu_melee_tech_guide/

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teching falcon pawnch

Posted: 19 Dec 2017 05:46 AM PST

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