Super Smash Bros - Daily Discussion Thread 07/05/17 |
- Daily Discussion Thread 07/05/17
- Isai will be playing to win at #GOML2017 and will donate his winnings
- n0ne's Ending Movie (made by Allegiance)
- Smash's Future at EVO (From a concerned FGC fan)
- Smash 4 PGRv3 #11-20 Top Smash Bros Wii U Players In The World
- TIL - True reason for slow getup
- Hax$ update on memcard fix and b0xx nerfs
- Tantalus (TO of Xanadu) is currently running Startropics at SDGQ, go give him some support for all the work he puts in for our community!
- PSA: Servers down for maintenance
- Using Power Rankings from around the world, I made a percentage-based "tier list" showing characters usage in tournament play.
- HUGE UPDATE ON BALCY'S PALACE now ft. 1k Pot Bonus, ThundeRz, Sothe, Frozen, Venom, ilovebagelz, and more!
- Wanna know about The King of Evil in PM? Here's Why My Main is Sick: Ganondorf feat. Red Ranger and Che.
- Registration for the PM Side Event at Evo ends tomorrow, 7/6/17!
- Armada's Top 5 Players of 2017 (so far)
- Supernova 2 Compendium Shop: The Spaceport is Open! Fly out top PM talent!
- The Best Worst Timeout in Melee history
- /r/smashbros Summer Top 25 (Part 1)
- Govt Surplus Auction - (19) 27" Philips CRT TVs
- Leffen's Thoughts on EVO
- A slurry of interesting calculators and spreadsheets for comparing/analyzing/understanding Character Attributes, Attack Parameters, and Knockback Values in Smash 4
- After years of playing this fucking game, today I learned that the Fountain of Dreams song is really just Gourmet Race (Dreamland) slowed down
- From the team behind BMR2 - Today is the LAST day to register for Function(3) ft. Lucky, n0ne, Duck, & Druggedfox
- Alternative ding dong combo, all dk mains should look at, useful for killing even earlier!!!
- Who's the most fun police character in the game?
- #ESAMOPINIONS on PGRv3 11-20
| Daily Discussion Thread 07/05/17 Posted: 05 Jul 2017 12:10 AM PDT Welcome to the Daily Discussion Thread series on /r/smashbros! Inspired by /r/SSBM and /r/hiphopheads's DDTs, you can post here:
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| Isai will be playing to win at #GOML2017 and will donate his winnings Posted: 05 Jul 2017 03:16 PM PDT | ||
| n0ne's Ending Movie (made by Allegiance) Posted: 05 Jul 2017 01:26 PM PDT | ||
| Smash's Future at EVO (From a concerned FGC fan) Posted: 05 Jul 2017 08:02 PM PDT Hi r/smashbros, I'm a long time lurker here, first time posting on reddit at all (sorry in advance if formatting is bad or if I miss a posting rule.) I just wanted to add the opinion of an FGC player, smash viewer here. From lurking this sub over the last few years I haven't seen too many "outsider" perspective opinions expressed. Damn this got long... TL;DR at the end for those who don't have time. First of all, I just wanted to tell you guys that I think your scenes are both really hype. I dabbled very briefly in competitive Melee back in 2004-2005, and again more recently with Smash4 in 2016. And I've always played the series casually with friends and family. Traditional FG's have always been my thing to (try to) play competitively (Street Fighter and GG + Blazblue mostly), but I actually find myself watching more smashbros tournaments on stream than I do FGC events over the last couple of years. Smash at a high level is just so damn entertaining (melee in particular, though I do enjoy watching high level smash 4 as well). Mad respect for all of the Smash TO's, Streamers, and competitors out there. Prop's to all of y'all. Now with that said, over the last week I've seen somethings that have concerned me. First, the lower player count at EVO 2017. And Second, Some video clips from top Melee players (Armada and Leffen) stating that EVO this year (and perhaps going forward) is losing it's overall importance to the smash scenes. This is due to a variety of reasons: No doubles, very few friendly setups, poorly run event in the past, Best of 3 until top 4, Expensive travel+ hotel, the rise of Smash SuperMajors, etc. All of these are valid criticisms/reasons that might make EVO less important to the Smash scenes overall. But dammit, hearing this stuff coming from your top players (and dozens of smashers agreeing with them in the comments and chat) was painful to witness from a casual smash fan's perspective. There were 5 things that got me hooked on regular Smash viewership for life as an FGC guy:
From a casual smash viewer/players' perspective, EVO is pretty damn special. The history of the tournament along with the variety of games and the players from the many different countries represented makes it the closest thing the FGC has to the Olympics. Any fighting game that is important to the hardcore or casual fan is represented in some way, side tournaments get hundreds of entrants and are often streamed, and every game in the official line-up is showcased with it's top 8 getting the main stream. This tourney is huge for any game's growth and overall exposure from a casual FGC viewer's perspective. To hear that some smashers are saying that EVO 2017 is "less important now" or "the least hype EVO so far" is a damn shame to me. EVO is the closest thing that the FGC has to the superbowl in that 1. Even general gaming fans who don't care about FG's at least know what it is and many will tune in to see thier favorite game and possibly stumble on something great (like I did in 2013 with Melee), and 2. The history, presentation, and Venue of the tournament make it feel that much more special, and 3. The players still treat the tournament as the tournament to win. If it's not obvious at this point I consider Smash an important part of the FGC. I know that is controversial still to many though. But I also know that myself and many other young-ish adults look forward to EVO weekend as a time to indulge in one of our favorite past times, no matter what the game is. I don't really care about a game like King of Fighters or Mortal Kombat for 364 days of the year, but when top 8 of EVO comes on and there are several thousand $$ on the line with a rowdy crowd enjoying the spectacle of pure competition? I'm parking my ass on the sofa with some snacks and a beer and turning twitch to srkevo1. Snap me out of it on Monday morning, this is EVO weekend. Bring on the 0 to Deaths, the Ultra Combos, the resets, the reads, the fireball spams, the dirty Marvel cross ups, the gimps, the option-selects, the rage comebacks, the clutch rests, the shine-spikes, bring it all! #WhensEVO? phew... I understand that not all EVO's will be as memorable or as Hype as the one before, but I feel like the Smash community and FGC are much better together than they are separate. I know that certain segments of both the FGC and Smash community can be very toxic to each other at times (and that sucks), but I hope that Smash's presence and prominence at EVO is here to stay. I have some ideas from an FGC perspective that I think could help Smash grow, but it would involve compromise and I think that would be off-topic and a better discussion for another time. This post has been too long already. For now, I'm curious as to what you all think should change for Smash at EVO in the future for it to still have the importance it did to Smash back in 2013-2015. (Or if that is even still possible? Would best of 5 for top 8 be enough? Top 32? A doubles side tournament? Would love to see a respectful discussion come out of this. TL:DR The ranting of a passionate FGC guy who fell in love with both Smash and EVO who wants to see to them continue to grow. The Smash Documentary and the exposure of EVO year after year are probably the biggest reasons for Smash's casual viewer resurgence since 2013. Smash may have risen in popularity to the point of no longer "needing" EVO to survive, but a hype EVO year after year is beneficial to any game/scene. What are some things that can be done to keep it that way? EVO 2017 can't come soon enough. Nothing but love and respect for Smash. Love the passion for what you all do. Thanks for reading. [link] [comments]  | ||
| Smash 4 PGRv3 #11-20 Top Smash Bros Wii U Players In The World Posted: 05 Jul 2017 11:19 AM PDT
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| TIL - True reason for slow getup Posted: 05 Jul 2017 03:14 PM PDT It's because I'm over 100%. I've been playing melee for over 4 years and I always thought it was because i fucked up the input. [link] [comments]  | ||
| Hax$ update on memcard fix and b0xx nerfs Posted: 05 Jul 2017 08:03 AM PDT
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| PSA: Servers down for maintenance Posted: 05 Jul 2017 06:03 PM PDT | ||
| Posted: 05 Jul 2017 05:50 PM PDT Hi everyone. Using my good buddy /u/barnardsloop's Smash 4 Power Rankings Directory, I created a "tier list" showing the percentages of how much a character is used in the tournament meta (think Smogon-ish). Some things to note.
Mario, Cloud, and Fox are the most represented characters in the game, making up 6.2% (157), 5.9% (150), and 5.1% (128) of Power Rankings respectively. The Mii Fighters made up the smallest percentage. Brawler was 0.16% (4), Gunner was 0.12% (3), and Swordfighter was 0.08% (2). Just an extra note, this could easily be outdated if he updated those in the past 24 hours. [link] [comments]  | ||
| Posted: 05 Jul 2017 12:31 PM PDT I know this event has been kind of confusing BUT FEAR NOT: RIGHT HERE RIGHT NOW WE SOLIDIFY WHATS THE DEALIO AND GET THIS SHIP A SAILIN'. Start of with the technically bad news: we won't officially be doing smash 4. In light of some miscommunication, Smash 4 will be at Gameacon but not run by our team, and I'll be upfront in saying it will be a very casual competitive pool. Enter it if you want, but I don't recommend coming if you are only in it for that game. On with the bangin' news, we no longer need to run our fundraiser due to financial assistance from Gameacon, Warrior League, and more. Huge shout outs to those who did donate and support us, but with so many events in the PM community needing financial support, we are happy to take ourselves off that market. If you did donate, you will still get your goods as promised. THIS MEANS SOTHE, FROZEN, DR., AND THE DOCTOR are all confirmed and ready to go. We've also been talking with other Westcoast top talent and have confirmed ThundeRz, ilovebagelz, Venom, Tealz, Nashun, and more! I plan to release a top player confirmation advertisement video everyday featuring their main in the high class Vegas style. Follow The Balc on twitter (https://twitter.com/TheBalc) to see those and help spread the word about this dope ass event. THIS ALSO MEANS WE OFFICIALLY HAVE A 1K POT BONUS FOR PM. So all you cool cats hungry for some gambling funds, get that transportation sorted and get yourself reg'd. With Smash 4 being dropped from our To-Do list we are going to bring back Rivals of Aether! We are working with the dev's of that game to ensure a top tier experience for those players. Did you know there were Bigger Balc Rivals skins? That shit cray. Right now, you can get flights to Vegas from LAX for as cheap as $106 round trip for this weekend. Our team is going to also begin organizing carpools/vans to help folks get to this event as well as help sort housing/hotels. COMMENT if you want to be on our list of people to help out. More than anything, get on https://smash.gg/tournament/balcy-s-palace-at-the-westgate and register! We already swung you guys a discounted price from the rest of the con with early bird $40 for this 3 day convention. Aug 1st it goes up to $55, so don't wait and waste money like a huge idiot. Sorry this event has been slightly confusing so far, but with all the kinks that were out of our control worked out, we are ready to make this one of the best West Coast regionals this year. [link] [comments]  | ||
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| Registration for the PM Side Event at Evo ends tomorrow, 7/6/17! Posted: 05 Jul 2017 11:42 AM PDT Registration Link: https://smash.gg/tournament/evo-2017-pm-side-event Trailer 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nqwlfyq7Ws8 Trailer 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YHawdgvYS0 Hi all, We've been posting in the PM subreddit, but it was brought to my attention that /r/smashbros might not know about the PM side event at Evo. This will be held in the BYOC room, same as last year. Full schedule will be released soon, as we had to wait for Evo Schedule to release and our final Registration numbers. That said, it's very likely we will be doing a one-day tournament on Friday, 7/14, so as to best not interfere with Melee. As mentioned in our trailer, we will schedule around your Melee pool! [link] [comments]  | ||
| Armada's Top 5 Players of 2017 (so far) Posted: 05 Jul 2017 02:49 PM PDT
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| Supernova 2 Compendium Shop: The Spaceport is Open! Fly out top PM talent! Posted: 05 Jul 2017 07:46 PM PDT YA'LL READY FOR TAKE OFF? The Supernova 2 Shop: The Spaceport is OPEN! Couldn't make it out to Long Island but wanted to support the NY/NJ scene? Want to fiscally become a part of PM history? Are you about as crazy about Nox's designs AS I AM??? Supernova 2, taking place at AON Gaming in Long Island, is the sequel to the premiere series in the Tri-State area! We have a lot of cool swag and rewards for you to buy including baseball tees, shirts, streamed sets and analysis, AND MORE. INCLUDING 24 HOUR VENUE AND RENAMING THE EVENT TO "SUPERDUPERNOVA" All of these things will go toward flying out top talent such as Red Ranger, Jose, Lunchables, Fuzz, Hero of Time, Mr.Lz, Jfyst & MORE! TRAILER BELOW: https://www.facebook.com/noxnoctis17/videos/10155619703348094/ SUPPORT OUR STORE AT THE LINK BELOW: https://smash.gg/tournament/supernova-2-2-day-project-m-national/shop/the-spaceport Trailer By: Nox [link] [comments]  | ||
| The Best Worst Timeout in Melee history Posted: 05 Jul 2017 05:44 AM PDT
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| /r/smashbros Summer Top 25 (Part 1) Posted: 05 Jul 2017 04:04 PM PDT Hi guys, I've been wondering about the upcoming Summer SSBMRank that is about to come out just before EVO, and wanted to do a survey to find what our top 25 are. The Survey is gonna be done in two parts. First I want to collect data on which players will be on the top 25 from the list of eligible players. You can find the survey Right now we aren't ranking the players, just picking our 25. For Question 1 Please pick ONLY 25, no more than that. From the responses, the 25 players who get picked the most will be on the ranking survey. Also please answer Question 2 on whether the next part should have you rank all 25 at once, or split the rankings for top 10 and top 11-25 based on the results from part 1. I will stop collection data Friday 12:00 AM EST, and post Part 2 on Friday EDIT: Left this out, Here's the stats for this ranking period EDIT2: If exactly 25 players aren't picked, the response will not be counted EDIT3: Sorry everyone, I have to close the poll early. I didn't realize I had a limit of 100 responses only without upgrading my account, I will look through all the responses to delete those that don't follow the rules. Once again sorry for not preparing better. To sort of fix the problem I have copied my survey, please use this one instead. If this one also hits 100, I'll make another copy and add the results from all of them [link] [comments]  | ||
| Govt Surplus Auction - (19) 27" Philips CRT TVs Posted: 05 Jul 2017 11:12 AM PDT
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| Posted: 05 Jul 2017 01:06 PM PDT Start watching the VOD https://www.twitch.tv/videos/156691725 around 11:45min mark for a great extended discussion on his thoughts about EVO as a whole [link] [comments]  | ||
| Posted: 05 Jul 2017 06:13 PM PDT Over the past few weeks, I put a lot of effort into understanding how exactly the Smash games calculate knockback, and how the various attack parameters you might see on KuroganeHammer affect the total calculated knockback in game. Here I explain all of the mathematics behind how the game calculates knockback and other factors like rage and staling. For the knockback formula, I'm presenting a more simplified version of the knockback formula than what you might find on Smashwiki, although they are equivalent. In addition to those, I created a bunch of interactive spreadsheets that can help players understand how attack parameters compare with each other and affect total knockback. Knockback Growth ComparisonThe first one is a spreadsheet where you define two different attacks, and the spreadsheet graphs the total knockback of both attacks as a function of target percent. This is useful for comparing to attacks that send at similar angles, and figuring out which attack kills better, or at which percent. For example, is Mario's or Luigi's backthrow is better? Knockback SensitivityThe second one calculates knockback sensitivity, which is essentially how sensitive total knockback is to small changes in each of the parameters. It is derived from differentiating the knockback formula by each parameter. The sensitivity value for each parameter describes how many knockback units the total knockback would change given a 1 unit change in the parameter. For example, let's take Wario's ftilt on Donkey Kong at 100%. If Wario's ftilt did 1 more damage, it would deal almost 8 more KB. If DK was one weight unit heavier, the attack would deal almost 0.5 KB less. Included are also graphs of total knockback vs changing parameters. Interesting to note that damage correlates to knockback with an x2 relationship and weight correlates with a 1/x relationship. Knockback-Percent EquivalenceThe third sheet is knockback-percent equivalence, or essentially how changes in other attack parameters besides percent correlate to a change in percent. For example, Game and Watch up smash on Fox at 65% when he is at full rage does the same amount of knockback if the Fox was originally at 118% and Game and Watch had no rage.. I put quite a lot of effort into making these sheets functional and look nice, so I hope you guys can appreciate them, and I hope you they help satiate your curiosity about how knockback works in Smash 4 at least a little bit. Also, pretty much all of these calculations work for Melee, as long as you ignore the parts about move staling and rage. If you would like to use any of these spreadsheets, just click on "File" and "Make a copy" so you can edit the values. [link] [comments]  | ||
| Posted: 05 Jul 2017 07:56 PM PDT I feel like this should have been obvious but holy fuck it really wasn't. This actually blew my mind haha [link] [comments]  | ||
| Posted: 05 Jul 2017 09:57 AM PDT There are only a few hours left to register for Function(3) by Recursion - featuring Lucky, n0ne, Duck, Druggedfox, & the Southeast's best in Melee! [link] [comments]  | ||
| Alternative ding dong combo, all dk mains should look at, useful for killing even earlier!!! Posted: 05 Jul 2017 08:08 AM PDT
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| Who's the most fun police character in the game? Posted: 05 Jul 2017 12:40 PM PDT | ||
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