Super Smash Bros - Daily Discussion Thread 04/06/18


Daily Discussion Thread 04/06/18

Posted: 06 Apr 2018 12:10 AM PDT

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Awesome Smash bros Pixel art

Posted: 06 Apr 2018 02:27 PM PDT

Top 10 69% Moments - GRsmash

Posted: 06 Apr 2018 12:01 PM PDT

Why do people want such terrible characters for the new Smash?

Posted: 06 Apr 2018 03:28 AM PDT

I feel like people have been losing their collective minds on YouTube with these Smash Bros character videos. I mean there is the obvious worst choice of Goku, but I've seen Sub Zero and Batman now too and it's starting to drive me nuts.

Like what happened? Smash Bros used to be all about Nintendo Fanservice. With Brawl and the addition of Sonic it moved into Retro Gaming Fanservice but then we got a curveball when we got Snake.

Eventually added to that Retro FS was Megaman and Pac Man on the Wii U which were both fine. But then another curveball was thrown and we got Ryu and Cloud. Some fun but I feel like that last one has sent people crazy and suggestions have just turned into whatever the hell people want, it's fan fiction now with all sense of cohesion and sense lost.

As someone who grew up playing Smash from the beginning what I like to see more than anything is stuff like Duck Hunt, ROB, Game and Watch for curveballs. Something from Nintendo's history that doesn't make sense and you just don't see coming.

For standard new additions it'd be stuff like Isaac or King K Rool. As for Third Party it needs to be something iconic but also something that fits the aesthetic of Smash Bros like Bomberman for example or Alex Kidd.

I think its the aesthetic angle that bothers me when people make wild suggestions like Sub Zero etc. That stuff just doesn't fit the world of Nintendo and all the fan service of a Smash Bros game.


This is all of course my own opinion, as in fairness is those who want Goku etc. I just felt I needed to vent.

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Hey r/smashbros, I made more art :)

Posted: 06 Apr 2018 04:50 PM PDT

The Script: Episode 6 - Melee Pokemon

Posted: 06 Apr 2018 11:44 AM PDT

Smash Summit 6 Shop, Voting, and Voting Fantasy are LIVE!

Posted: 06 Apr 2018 02:08 PM PDT

Smash Summit 6 shop and voting are live!

It's a bird! It's a plane! It's… Smash Summit 6: Superhero Edition!

Smash Summit 6 shop and voting kick off today, where you can vote through 6 of your favorite superheroes to Smash Summit 6, including:

  • aMSa
  • Ginger
  • Zain
  • Ice
  • 2saint
  • Westballz
  • HugS
  • Stango
  • ARMY
  • Franz
  • Ryan Ford
  • ChuDat
  • Michael
  • Spark
  • La Luna
  • Legend
  • Absent Page
  • SmashBob SquarePants
  • Syrox
  • Trif

Voting Fantasy

Think you know who'll make it through? smash.gg is hosting a fantasy event for the voting phase with prizes for the winners! Create your roster here but hurry, you have until Monday (4/9) at 2pm PDT (first elimination): https://smash.gg/summit6/fantasy

Shop and Voting

A new Smash Summit also means new merch and reward goals, this time featuring a number of new superhero themed apparel, and goals including hide and seek, Twitch plays Summit, and more! Interested? Take a look at the Smash Summit 6 shop.

Voting Schedule

  • Voting + Shop Open: Fri (4/6) 2pm PDT
  • Day 1: Mon (4/9) 2pm PDT
    • Bottom 4 Eliminated (16 players remain)
  • Day 2: Tue (4/10) 2pm PDT
    • Bottom 4 Eliminated (12 players remain)
  • Day 3: Wed (4/11) 2pm PDT
    • Top 2 Advance + Bottom 2 Eliminated (8 players remain)
  • Day 4: Fri (4/13) 2pm PDT
    • Top 2 Advance + Bottom 2 Eliminated (4 players remain)
  • Day 5: Mon (4/16) 2pm PDT
    • Top 2 Advance + Bottom 2 Eliminated
  • Tournament
    • Thu (5/3) through Sun (5/6)

Voting Rules

How do you get votes? Good question! Smash.gg users get votes for Smash Summit 6 purchases on top of free votes for previous site activity. Here's the breakdown:

Free Votes (10/9/2017 and 4/4/2018 only)

  • 5 votes per paid Melee singles event (capped at 10 votes)
  • 2 votes per shop purchase from (capped at 10 votes)
  • 1 vote per fantasy roster created (capped at 5 votes)
  • 1 vote per tournament submission (capped at 5 votes)

Summit Shop Votes (Smash Summit 6 Shop Only)

  • 5 votes for your first purchase (one time use)
  • 2 votes for every $1 spent
  • Extra 25 votes per every $50 spent (includes shipping)
    • NEW: In the interest of our non-US users, we're including shipping for bonus votes
  • NEW: Extra 15 votes for subscribing to Beyond the Summit's Twitch channel and linking it to your smash.gg account (one time use)

Have questions about the shop or voting? Let us know at hello@smash.gg. We look forward to the matches and content surrounding the event.

Thanks for participating!

– The smash.gg Team

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Hey, Alexa! Who's your favorite Smash Bros. Character?:

Posted: 06 Apr 2018 03:40 PM PDT

Double Puff rest combo

Posted: 06 Apr 2018 12:08 PM PDT

North Carolina Power Rankings - Season 16

Posted: 06 Apr 2018 09:08 AM PDT

If the next Smash decides to have a mechanic like Palutena's Guidance/Snake's Codecs, but this time for a different series, who should have the honor of talking about the Smashers?

Posted: 06 Apr 2018 02:23 PM PDT

For me, I can see the Squid Sisters/Off the Hook discussing about players in the inevitable Splatoon stage.

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When the normal Hammer is better than the Golden Hammer

Posted: 06 Apr 2018 12:48 PM PDT

https://gfycat.com/RespectfulWelloffHyena

I'll be posting some of my highlights on this subreddit so y'all can see them before we finish the next montage.

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Heir EU SSBMRank, 20-11

Posted: 06 Apr 2018 12:24 PM PDT

When your friend REFUSES to switch characters! (Smash 4)

Posted: 06 Apr 2018 03:18 PM PDT

PiXL gets sponsored by Tuxedo Esports!

Posted: 06 Apr 2018 05:49 PM PDT

https://twitter.com/PiXLssb/status/982392339036487680

PiXL is a Ryu player from Utah who was the highest placing Ryu at SCR Saga, despite not being flown out. He has taken sets off players such as Mistake, Cosmos, falln, Charlie, and many more. Look for him at more majors in the future!

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Anyone main low tiers because you can't play any other character?

Posted: 06 Apr 2018 08:47 AM PDT

I've been playing smash competitively (mainly Melee.) for about 4 years and 4 months now, I've mained Falco for a year before switching to Mr. Game & Watch oddly. He's the only character I know I can do well and to be really honest, I get more results with him than Falco. What about you guys?

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NorCal PR Winter 2018

Posted: 06 Apr 2018 03:48 PM PDT

  1. Shroomed (Sheik/Marth)

  2. PewPewU (Marth)

  3. Dizzkidboogie (ICs)

  4. Kalamazhu (Peach)

  5. Rocky (Falco)

  6. Cactuar (Fox/Marth)

  7. Ralph (Falco/Fox)

  8. Laudandus (Sheik)

  9. NMW (Falcon)

  10. Spark (Sheik)

  11. Azusa (Peach)

  12. Nintendude (ICs/Marth)

  13. Darkatma (Peach/Sheik/Fox)

  14. Wavebringer (Peach)

  15. Azel (Falco)

  16. DiplomaticTucan (ICs)

  17. HMW (Falco and more)

  18. Kevbot (Fox)

  19. Rymo (Fox)

  20. ycz6 (Samus)

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Anybody else hate the classic mode in 4?

Posted: 06 Apr 2018 03:14 AM PDT

I made a Moveset for my most wanted character- Marx from the Kirby series!

Posted: 06 Apr 2018 08:32 PM PDT

Stats​

In SSB, Marx (mostly) is in his Star Allies form, with his Wings and Ball coming when needed. When it comes to stats, he's relatively slow, being slower than Olimar. Contrary to this, he's actually quite good in the air, having the air speed of Roy and the fall speed of Villager. He's a Light Mid-Weight, being slightly heavier then Peach.

When dashing, he uses his ball. While dashing, he has something similar to Bowser's Tough Guy ability, where weaker attacks don't make him flinch, but just go into a walk. The ball bounces around and does some weak damage before popping about 4 seconds later.

Basic Moves​

Jab Combo: Marx's Jab Combo is a kick from each of his legs, followed by the final attack being him using his wing.

Dash Attack: he trips, which causes him to fall. Since he falls off the ball in this attack, it functions how it does if he gets attacked mid-dash.

Up-Tilt: He uses one of his wings to do an attack upwards, similar to Villager's up-tilt. Comparatively, it has more range, but does less damage.

Down-Tilt: He splits in half, similar to Mirror Kirby.

Side Tilt: He kicks his ball in front of him. The ball keeps going forward until it falls off the stage or hits an opponent. If there's a player right in front of Marx when this attack happens, the ball cannot damage them (right away).

Aerials​

Neutral-Air: He does a much weaker version of the Black Hole attack. It does residual damage, plus a slight gravitational pull.

Up-Air: He sends up some prickly thorns. The attack has decent range and can even tether grab!

Front/Back-Air: He does an attack very similar to the down-tilt, but with less range and more damage. If he touches a ledge, he can grab instantly.

Down Tilt: He sends an Ice Orb downwards, freezing and dealing 11% damage to anyone it hits.

Smash Attacks​

Up-Smash: He makes a ball of Pshchic Energy appear above him, similar to PSI Kirby.

Forward-Smash: He makes a barrage of arrows appear. It's a multi-hit attack.

Down Smash: He make two Prickly Thorns appear on both sides of him.

Special Attacks

Neutral-B: Beam Charge. Marx charges up an incredibly powerful long ranged attack, but it takes 5 seconds to get it ready. The next time Neutral-B is used once charged, he releases the beam.

Side-B: Black Hole: Marx makes a black hole in front of him. It's more powerful than the Neutral Air, but it does no damage. It could lead into combos.

Up-B: Teleport. Unlike other character's teleport attacks, Marx has full control during the attack, similar to Greninja's Side-B. To counter this, however, there's no hitboxes and the range he can go in any direction is a little less. He leaves no shadow, so it could be good for mix-ups

Down-B: Dig. Marx buries himself underground. During this point, he can go around underground, and when he comes out the attack does 16% damage. If used in the air, he falls quickly and spins, dealing light damage on the way down. There's a visible shadow

Final Smash: Marx Soul. During the final smash, Marx can fly around as Marx Soul, similar to Super Sonic and Mega Charizard X. To attack, he sends out four cutters downwards, like in Kirby Super Star. He can be damaged, but he has no knockback.

Miscellaneous​

Up-Taunt: He bounces on his ball, but he falls off (See KSSU outtakes)

Side-Taunt: Laughs and floats using his wings.

Down-Taunt: Pretends to do his Down Special, mock shadow and all, but reemerges in the same place he was 1 second later. Exact same animation, good for mix-ups.

Grab: Hops on the opponent like he does in KSA. The pummel is a particularly hard stomp. The throws are throws, not too fancy. (Sorry for this being so brief, I just really couldn't think of unique throws.)

Ledge Attack: Uses one wing to attack in-front of him, while the other one stays there until safely on the ground.

For holding items, he uses one of his wings. For midair jumps, he temporarily uses his wings and hexagons shoot out of them, propelling him upwards. He has two midair jump. One jump is a little less useful then the midair jump of a regular character, but are miles ahead of one from the other characters with multiple jumps.

Alts​

1: His regular appearance from Super Star and Star Allies

2: Magalor Colors. Marx Soul has his colors from the boss Fight.

  1. Sectonia Colors. Marx Soul has Soul of Sectonia's colors

  2. Dark Matter Colors. Soul has 02 colors.

  3. Daroach colors. Marx Soul is Dark Daroach colors.

  4. Nightmare Colors

  5. Haltmann Colors

  6. Marx Soul Colors. FS has normal form colors. Side taunt has the lovely sound he makes when defeated in the True Arena.

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What Nintendo franchises is the Smash community ignoring that could bring great newcomers?

Posted: 06 Apr 2018 12:47 PM PDT

While characters like Andy (Advance Wars) and Isaac (Golden Sun) are often included in wishlists and predictions, some franchises get left out of the conversation altogether. Two of my most wanted characters for Smash have always been from franchises people overlook when discussing newcomers: Isa-Jo or Saki (Sin & Punishment) and Ray MKII (Custom Robo). What's your sadly overlooked Nintendo franchise for Smash?

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Suda51 still continues to hold out hope for Travis Touchdown in Smash Bros. Switch

Posted: 06 Apr 2018 03:10 PM PDT

Rage DK Wind Up Punch on the Top of Battlefield

Posted: 06 Apr 2018 06:52 PM PDT

What about Smash 4 fell short for you?

Posted: 06 Apr 2018 10:26 AM PDT

Half an Hour [Project M TAS]

Posted: 06 Apr 2018 08:12 AM PDT

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLuX40DpVkc

Please don't take this too seriously i just wanted to do a high effort shitpost

Comparison Vid: https://streamable.com/mj6m5

Original Controversial Source of Combo: https://youtu.be/hZbvh4hfx6o?t=2m25s

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Why do people want Cloud and Bayonetta cut from Smash 5???

Posted: 06 Apr 2018 05:14 PM PDT

I've noticed a common sentiment on this subreddit lately is that Cloud and/or Bayonetta should be cut from the game. To answer my own question, I know people say this because they're top tier characters and thus don't like them; I find that to be really stupid reasoning. Pikachu was OP in 64 but was tuned in Melee, Fox was super strong in Melee but was tuned for Brawl, and we all know Meta Knight was majorly nerfed from Brawl yet still remains a viable character in Smash. Cloud and Bayonetta were both constantly requested and I honestly still have a hard time believing they're in the game, so why cut them just because you're mad about how they're good? I'd argue Cloud only needs slight nerfs, while Bayo will definitely need some reworking. However, there's no reason to get rid of these beloved characters because of their because of their presence in the competitive scene. Cloud has been one of the most requested characters since Melee, and Bayonetta was the winner of the Smash Ballot, so even if you do want them gone the chances of that happening are very slim.

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