Super Smash Bros - Daily Discussion Thread 02/08/17


Daily Discussion Thread 02/08/17

Posted: 07 Feb 2017 11:06 PM PST

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Armada AMA - Genesis Three-Peat Champion

Posted: 08 Feb 2017 10:38 AM PST

Hey guys! Haven't done an AMA in a long time so decided to do one now =D

Recently won Genesis for the third time in a row and Smash/Streaming/Youtube is what I do for a living =D

In 2018 I might move to the US for 3 months, something I talk about in this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0j5TUDNPuU https://www.twitch.tv/armadaugs

Feel free to ask me anything, will start to respond to things in about 2h =D

EDIT: Done for tonight, need to wake up early tomorrow but will try to do more later on, thanks for all the questions so far <3

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I (Armada) might move to the US for 3 months in 2018!

Posted: 08 Feb 2017 02:44 PM PST

G&W and MK abusing windboxes in doubles

Posted: 08 Feb 2017 01:33 PM PST

honest game 3 at construct 69

Recorded on a setup at the weekly WI tournament series The Construct. This stuff can kill at 0%. Crazy!

Teams start to panic trying to save each other and often get grabbed more.

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2GG, please. If you're going out have a Midwest Mayhem and not include Free Miis, PLEASE CHANGE THE RULESET YOU COPIED AND PASTED.

Posted: 08 Feb 2017 06:49 PM PST

It was announced not too long ago that 2GG Midwest Mayhem would use the MM ruleset. One of the notable rules at MM is that Miis are free. When 2GG copied this ruleset, apparently they didn't check. If you check right now on Smash.gg, Free Miis are still included in the ruleset. We figured they were including this unique rule. Us Mii mains were ecstatic. It's been in the ruleset for weeks now. Even if it was a goof, there's no way they would change it so close to the event that's this weekend.

 

We were wrong. To quote a someone that knows Champ, "Champ just messaged me. Turns out they are only adopting the "Stage Ruleset" of Midwest...."

 

Regardless of your stance on Miis, you have to admit this is pretty fucked up. This isn't something that "we should expect because of how Miis are treated." We shouldn't expect "changes" to the ruleset 3 days before. This isn't okay. I really hope this post gains traction, so hopefully 2GG will reconsider. Especially since, as of this post, the ruleset still says that Miis are allowed any moveset at guest size.

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Poor Hbox

Posted: 08 Feb 2017 01:26 PM PST

HugS Fires at S2J, S2J Fires back Harder

Posted: 08 Feb 2017 02:55 PM PST

I brew my own beer and make labels for my brews, and I really like Melee, so naturally... (more to come)

Posted: 08 Feb 2017 05:26 PM PST

Here's three labels I've made so far. I plan on making six different beers thematically in this current series to complete the Summit Six Pack. Next I'm thinking about a Ganondorf Smoked Stout, a Peach Blonde brewed with... you guessed it, peaches, and a Sheik Summer Shandy with grapefruit-heavy notes.

If any of you have recommendations or ideas, please let me know!!

Credits for the spacies art goes to /u/JazzHandsJames and /u/Tire_Salesman and SenjuWarrior from deviantart for the Cpt. Falcon art.

EDIT: Obligatory pour

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The worst amsah tech ever

Posted: 08 Feb 2017 03:53 PM PST

Dutch Melee PR

Posted: 08 Feb 2017 11:50 AM PST

"This Character is Dumb": ZeRos Bayonetta Post-Patch Analysis

Posted: 08 Feb 2017 09:45 AM PST

Some of the best high level Ocarina of Time gameplay I've ever seen (J666 vs Bizz @ SSS55)

Posted: 08 Feb 2017 11:07 AM PST

Smash Summit Spring 2017 organizer r/SmashBros AMA tomorrow at 10:30 am PST

Posted: 08 Feb 2017 12:03 PM PST

Hi everyone!

I'm Ken (aka Hot_Bid). I'm a Falco main and also the creative lead on the Smash Summit Spring 2017. We're making a bunch of changes to the format and fun challenges as well as introducing some new exciting stretch goals and merch this time, so we thought it'd be nice to answer any questions you have about it before we launch the compendium on Friday (1pm PST).

Grace (who has worked as a project manager / smash mom on all the Summits so far) will also be here to answer questions like which player can't eat spicy food and who she's yelled at the most.

AMA will start at 10:30 AM PST on r/smashbros tomorrow and will run to roughly 3:00 PM.

Here is a picture of us. I am the Asian on the left. http://i.imgur.com/ZYT3c25.jpg

Talk to you then! HB

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Top Tier History: Falco Lombardi

Posted: 08 Feb 2017 11:54 AM PST

Fox McCloud - Digital Painting

Posted: 08 Feb 2017 07:43 PM PST

If the 2GGT Series was a circuit

Posted: 08 Feb 2017 02:36 PM PST

Hey everyone. You've all most likely seen how 2GGaming is running a Smash 4 circuit this year called the 2GG Championship Series or 2GGC. Well I decided to see what would have happened had the 2GGT series been a circuit, just like the 2GGC series.

Using the rules from the official 2GGC smash.gg page, I gave points to the top 16 from each 2GGT Saga. The winners of each Saga would automatically qualify for the championship at the end of the year, and the rest of the 20 qualification spots would go to those with the most points. The points would also be used for seeding.

Also, according to the website, the final 3 2GGC Sagas would be "season finale" Sagas where the points are doubled. Since in the 2GGT series, there was only a Saga in December and not in October or November, I only gave double points to the top 16 of ZeRo Saga and not KTAR Saga or Abadango Saga.

After calculating the points, here are the 20 players who would qualify for the 2GGT Championship (those with an asterisk next to their name won a Saga and would automatically qualify):

  1. ZeRo* - 608 points
  2. Larry Lurr* - 504 points
  3. VoiD - 262 points
  4. MKLeo* - 256 points
  5. Tyrant* - 191 points
  6. Nairo* - 176 points
  7. Trela* - 144 points
  8. Pink Fresh* - 128 points
  9. Ito - 65 points
  10. False - 65 points
  11. Marss - 64 points
  12. K9sbruce - 62 points
  13. falln - 47 points
  14. Tearbear - 38 points
  15. Xzax - 35 points
  16. Ally - 32 points
  17. Cacogen - 32 points
  18. FOW - 32 points
  19. Zinoto - 32 points
  20. ImHip - 18 points

Here's the spreadsheet I used to calculate the points. If you have any questions or you see any errors, please let me know.

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Nintendo Switch may receive an update for legacy controller support

Posted: 07 Feb 2017 11:53 PM PST

Prog commentating at Xanadu!

Posted: 08 Feb 2017 05:18 PM PST

Currently at 200+ entrants, 2GGC Midwest Mayhem Saga registration ends today! Feat. ZeRo, VoiD, Larry Lurr, ANTi, komorikri, CaptainZack, Zinoto and much more!

Posted: 08 Feb 2017 12:25 PM PST

Hey all,

Today is the last day to sign up for 2GGC Midwest Mayhem Saga! The event will take place on Feb 11th at eSports Arena in Santa Ana, CA and its a collaboration with Events2Compete, eSports Arena, and 2GG!

Here's are some of the headlines:

$2,000 Pot Bonus

Thanks to eSports Arena, they will be providing $2,000 to the singles prize pool!

2nd qualifying spot of 2GGC

The winner of this saga will be the second person to qualify into the 2GG Championship in December! Unless of course ZeRo wins which means the spot will then be remove and an additional spot via point qualification will be added! Speaking of ZeRo...

ZeRo meet and greet

On Feb 10th at eSports Arena, ZeRo will be doing a meet and greet with everyone from 5-8 PM PST. So come get your games in or get things sign by ZeRo himself.

Midwest Invasion

The Midwest smashers are coming in full force! Zinoto, Tyroy, Ryuga, Ned, DarkShad, MJG, Mister Eric, NiTe, Dan, Seth, Demitus, Colinies, Shel, Slowjoe, and much more are coming! There is easily over 20+ Midwest smashers!

18 of the PGRV2 will be attending

ZeRo, Larry Lurr, VoiD, ANTi, komorikiri, Zinoto, Tweek, Mr. E, CaptainZack, Rich Brown, Samsora, 6WX, falln, Tyrant, false, DarkShad, Locus, and Ned will all be attending 2GGC!

SoCal vs Midwest

Currently the score is 1-1 from recent events. This will be the tie breaker and in SoCal's home turf for the first time. The team are Larry Lurr/VoiD/Tyrant/Elegant/Rich Brown vs Zinoto/Ned/Tyroy/DarkShad/Ryuga!

Smash Ladder

For the 1st time in 2GGC, we will be running the smash ladder that many events are doing! That means even when you're eliminated, you will still be able to compete for free and win prizes! Can you climb the ladder to the top?

Casters

The casters for this event is nothing to sleep on: D1, EE, DC, BAM, Keitaro, Lord Sturm, Strides, Gpik, and Mijo will be the voices of Midwest Mayhem Saga!

** Activities **

Food Trucks will be at the arena all day providing amazing food for everyone. Also, we will have vendors, free play, and other activities for everyone to enjoy!

Roster Reveal

After Midwest Mayhem saga concluded, we will be revealing the full crew battle line for 2GGC Civil War between Team ZeRo and Team Ally!

You can catch all of this live at https://www.twitch.tv.2ggaming

or you can come in person and compete or spectate! For more info CLICK HERE

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Worst Possible Match-Up to Ever Exist?

Posted: 08 Feb 2017 06:16 AM PST

For me, it's a toss between 1.0.0 Sheik vs 1.0.0 Ganondorf, or 1.1.4 Bayonetta vs. 1.1.4 Ganondorf.

1.0.0 Sheik is obvious.

In 1.1.4, Ganondorf could not cancel Bullet Climax with Wizards Foot, Witch Time could be spammed and her ABK dive kick made mince meat out of him.

Not saying these are still not -2 or -3 for that matter, but they could have possibly been considered "unwinnable" during their time.

Any worse or equally bad you can come up with?

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Hungrybox with the clutch comeback as usual

Posted: 08 Feb 2017 03:06 PM PST

A Visual Demonstration of Greninja's Terrible Hitboxes.

Posted: 08 Feb 2017 10:23 AM PST

A serious question from a Bayo main.

Posted: 08 Feb 2017 01:07 PM PST

Hi guys, I've got a serious question for you guys. I just want honest opinions.

I know there has been a significant amount of talk recently about Bayonetta's stance (or control, in some ways) over the meta. Recently, talented players have been doing better and better with her, figuring out even more techniques and punishes. Hell, even some top players have picked her up as a secondary or are at least showing that they too can use her successfully to some degree.

When this Bayo's trailer was released, I was more pumped than ever before. I honestly wasn't a big fan of her prior to Smash, but I really fell in love with her play style. I, ever since the release of Smash 4 (since this game was my first Smash game I've played), enjoyed playing characters that had some sort of combo game. I don't mean they had to have some sort of guaranteed combo, but I enjoyed learning characters that had strings, or a least a couple different moves that lead into others. The fact that we were getting a character who's entire concept was combos and multi-hit moves was awesome. I mained Robin before Bayonetta (I know Robin is leagues away from Bayo, but I enjoyed things like arcthunder into arcfire into fair/up-smash or downthrow into arcthunder into nosferatu). I also lean a little towards female characters for some reason.

Anyways, I love this game and I love playing this game and learning competitively. But, I do not enjoy how much negativity this character brings. I do agree that she is the best in the game, and if not definitely one of the best. I know her Witch Time is a pretty broken game changer. I know she's got an amazing recovery and a combo game that is better than tons of other characters combined. I completely understand why some people do not like playing against her.

And that's just it. I understand where many people are coming from. And I don't want to be the person who no one wants to play friendlies with or compete with in bracket because they play "the broken character", even though I generally have fun playing with her. Do you think I should drop her, and pick up my old main? And when you go up against a Bayonetta player whether it be friendlies or in bracket, do you have preconceived notions of whether or not you will enjoy the set(s)?

I just honestly want to know other people's opinions.

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[apex2012] Armada chant gets awkwardly silenced by overexcited guy

Posted: 08 Feb 2017 02:17 AM PST

Modding Question on PM + EX

Posted: 08 Feb 2017 07:46 PM PST

I'm trying to replace some ex characters with new ones from brawl vault, but I'm not too familiar with how ex works (especially all the dat files) and my game keeps crashing after i select the stage. I tried replacing all the old character files with the new character's file by renaming the new ones to what the old one were named. Apparently that is not how its done so I'm looking for assistance.

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EventHubs Smash Bros. 4 top 50 players list

Posted: 08 Feb 2017 07:36 PM PST

For the first time, we've done a top 50 Smash Bros. 4 player list.

Like all of our top 50 lists for a fighting game, we invite professional players and prominent members of the community to vote (with rules).

Our panel is made up of myself, fellow EventHubs writer MajinTenshinhan, Smashboards writer 1PC, and various professional players including Dabuz, Larry Lurr, Nairo, 6WX, CaptainZack, and more.

I'll be posting the remaining 4 segments of the top 50 list, each with 10 players, every day until the list is complete.

Smash Bros. top 50-41:

https://www.eventhubs.com/news/2017/feb/08/eventhubs-2016-top-50-super-smash-bros-4-players-41-50-our-first-top-50-list-latest-smash-bros-entry/

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