Fortnite Snoo Contest - Voting


Snoo Contest - Voting

Posted: 29 Aug 2018 01:30 PM PDT

Introducing a more lenient ruleset: Rules 2.0

Posted: 29 Aug 2018 05:02 PM PDT

TL;DR

The rules are now far less strict overall, but we still have a minimum requirements. The bar has been lowered and will be monitored. We allow more memes, fluff and posts overall now. We believed we had a history of over-policing the content rather than allowing the voting system and general quality guidelines to speak for themselves.


We have noticed a lot of community dissatisfaction with our ruleset and our removals, increasingly so since our last revision. The team has decided to take a few days to review each rule in detail, looking at what doesn't make sense on a community gaming forum. All of this being said, we've ultimately decided to change the rules significantly. This doesn't mean that we will be allowing template memes, but it does mean we will be allowing more humor posts, more fluff posts and generally more posts overall. We still want to allow, encourage and foster Fortnite meta and in-depth game discussions here. This is the general "forum" for Fortnite: Save the World and we want all content to have a chance here.

Based on our own internal discussions as well as feedback from the community, we believe we have a history of over policing the content rather then allowing the voting system and general quality guidelines to speak for themselves. As Reddit moderators, our job isn't to curate the content but rather keep everything in line, content bans should be applied retroactively instead of proactively and after there has been a reasonable amount of observations about the flood of one type of content that cannot be controlled because it is more easily digested than other content.

Additionally, the goal of all these rules is to make them easier to enforce as a team. Previously our rules were a bit too dependent on the moderator assessing the post at the time, and we apologize for that. We realize we had a lot of faults with our past enforcement and ruleset, and want to begin making good on that by making our own rules easier for everyone to agree on if a post should or should not be allowed.

Below we'll outline the rule and policy changes as well as the reasoning:

Post Quality Fortnite Content

Changes

  • We will begin to allow "Perk discussion questions" about weapons/traps outside of the Tuesday Megathread (such as "what do I reroll or perkup first on this gun?").

  • We have merged the "no petitions" rule into this rule as there was very little need for it to be a standalone policy. We do not receive many inquiries for this type of content.

  • We have removed the "short jokes are not allowed" restriction because we find little benefit in policing the content based on the length of the humor beyond what we have already determined to be an appropriate body length as a team for submissions in AutoModerator.

  • Our complete "no phone photos/videos" rule has been changed to allow phone photos/video when the situation is reasonable, such as when there is no other possible way to reasonably capture the situation. We believe that the other rules will cover this when it is an issue but overall want to be more lenient.

  • We have changed our "no stolen content" rule into a new stance that allows reposts of others' content as long as the original creator receives proper credit in either the title or the comments.

Reasoning

The general thoughts behind the changes here are that we flat out removed too much for low quality. We want to allow shorter jokes, nostalgia posts and fluff posts that show off the best the community has to bring. We will be enforcing the quality aspect of this less, where as only posts that are blatantly low quality (phone pictures, stick figures, template memes) will be removed.

Title Guidelines

Changes

  • We removed the policy "Making a post where the title is the only thing related to Fortnite is not allowed." because we want to be slightly more lenient on allowing things that aren't directly Fortnite related but bring a point to discuss.

  • Previously our rule about clickbait titles was present in both "Post Quality Fortnite Content" as well as "Title Guidelines" under different wording. As such, one was removed for being a duplicate. It is no longer present under "Post Quality Fortnite Guidelines".

  • We moved "Posts of clickbait social media titles are not allowed." from "Post Quality Fortnite" to "Title Guidelines" because this rule set is a more appropriate place for a title-based rule to be located.

  • We removed the policy "When posting links from Twitter, post titles should be as accurate to the source as possible." because this type of policy is typically geared towards more professional sports communities due to the professionalism involved and isn't necessary in our community. Overall, this policy felt extremely unnecessary and was rarely ever enforced, if ever.

Reasoning

In addition to what we wrote above, we want to allow things that are tangentially related to Fortnite that are also opening up room for discussion. We will also be allowing posts from one user to another, so if someone makes a huge sprawling design in their SSD and another person wants to say "I just had to one up that design" by building a more elaborate SSD creation, this is now allowed. The main reason for this rule will now be that Title Guidelines will mostly require titles for posts to have context and not be clickbait.

Humor Guidelines

Changes

  • We removed the rule "This means copy and pasting assets from Fortnite onto something non-game related is not allowed". This means copy and pasted Fortnite assets on top of non Fortnite assets are now allowed on the subreddit, granted that they follow the other rules. Because this rule is essentially rededuant with our template meme policy, there is nothing wrong with users adding Fortnite content to something non-game related and that does not determine the quality of a post. This used to be something we'd remove, and would be a controversial topic to discuss. Now, we will let the subreddit filter it out naturally by upvoting/downvoting said posts. This will allow us to "Moderate" more in terms of actual subreddit issues, and not posts like these.

  • Removed "Short jokes, puns, or similar posts are not allowed. Longer, humorous content and relevant satire are allowed." As long as the user is abiding by our content length guidelines, there is no reason to enforce this rule.

Reasoning

Humor should be allowed if there is something unique brought to the table. We want to allow shorter humorous content while also removing the "low effort" memes that you see so often. This means if a meme is done in a popular format that is not special to Fortnite in any way like a spongebob meme, despicable me or any other commonly found template meme then we will be removing it. However, these were probably 1-3% of removals, and will be approving humor content more often now.

No Witch Hunting or Posting Personal Information

Changes

  • We have condensed the rule down to say in simpler terms that no matter the circumstances, to not post any personal information about a person, organization, entity, etc. The overall rule is still the same, however, now its changed to a more easier-to-read format, while still staying true to its original intention.

Frequently Posted Topics

Changes

  • This rule should essentially only be used to address reposts and new topics, now.

  • The first bullet point previously explained what the first paragraph did. Most of what changed about this rule is the bulk of the paragraph being removed due to it's insane redundancy. The fat is cut, it's gone. This rule is enforced the same way, we don't want thirty posts saying the same thing, but we don't need thirty sentences to explain that one thing.

Promotion Guidelines

Changes

  • 10:1 guidelines are now applicable across Reddit. This was agreed on in our monthly meeting. If 10% of a user's posts on Reddit are their own submissions or are comments on their own submissions, then they are in violation of our promotion guidelines.

Posts Must Provide a Point For Discussion

Changes

  • Majority of removals regarding this removal reason were on posts with hundreds, if not thousands of comments a day. There is no reason to be removing posts for not encouraging discussion when there are literally hundreds of comments on that post.

  • We now allow posts in reply to another post, we found that we were removing posts communicating between others for no reason. Posts that spam the same content would get removed regardless of if it was in reply. This rule effectively kills the types of meta memes that other subreddits have and are enjoyed in their communities. This allows for unique interactions that make the subreddit more human.

  • LFG is still not allowed, however we will be modifying our removal reasons to include links to alternate places where LFG can take place - notably the Official Fortnite Discord, the Reddit Discord, and our own Megathread.

Reasoning

As said above and in another breakdown of the reasoning behind these changes, we now allow posts in reply to another post, we found that we were removing posts communicating between others for no reason. This policy will receive a heavy enforcement change, since we found ourselves too often removing posts for not encouraging discussion based on the sub-points of this rule rather then the actual main context of the rule. All posts should bring up something to discuss, but not to the point that it's college level debate required.

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Me waiting for crouching to be added to STW

Posted: 29 Aug 2018 12:35 PM PDT

petition to rename “destroy the encampments” to “lemme sit on my ass all game and farm mats while my teammate solos 7 encampments”

Posted: 29 Aug 2018 03:34 PM PDT

What an EXPEDITIONAL idea!

Posted: 29 Aug 2018 12:55 PM PDT

Finally a new mythic ninja! Wait a minute....

Posted: 29 Aug 2018 05:08 PM PDT

And if we could set a bind for group of guns

Posted: 29 Aug 2018 07:24 AM PDT

Does anyone else want to see Ravage make it into STW? Or am I the only one?

Posted: 29 Aug 2018 12:09 PM PDT

Thank God they included Redline Ramirez without her helmet... She is way cooler this way... Best Ramirez design until now, prove me wrong...

Posted: 29 Aug 2018 09:18 PM PDT

I'm gonna vomit.

Posted: 29 Aug 2018 08:17 AM PDT

Hello Sarah, my old friend. I've come to talk with you again

Posted: 29 Aug 2018 05:18 PM PDT

Countdown to Magyst's Breakdown

Posted: 29 Aug 2018 05:42 PM PDT

Every day I read this subreddit and the amount of people blaming the poor bugger for every single one of the game's issues I just keep expecting him to blast someone in the most spectacular fashion for asking the same question that's he's answered 49272 times in the past, but he doesn't.

Hats off to the guy, I woulda lost it months ago. Yeah it's his job to communicate with the community and dealing with complaints is a part of that but think about your own workplace and that customer/client that blames everything (whether in your control or not) on you just because you're the one they're talking to. Guess what, we are that person when we bitch to Magyst about the game.

Note: I'm NOT talking about bug reporting/asking him for help; moreso the "THEGAMESBROKENANDYOUDONTCAREABOUTUSWHYARENTYOUDOINGANYRHINGITSALLYOURFAULTREEEEEEE" posts. If you needed that explaining to you, odds are you're one of the people making those useless comments.

At the end of the day, I've started playing a certain very large MMO that just released an expansion just while I wait for 5.4 to come and have the lag and bugs fixed and don't think for a second that company is anywhere near as good with customer service and answering questions/issues.

TLDR: don't make a fellas job harder than it has to be - odds are you hate the person doing that at your work.

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I tried making ray in my home base... considering the limitations, I think I did quite well.

Posted: 29 Aug 2018 01:27 PM PDT

Glitched Eagle Eye into the "Other gamemode" Lobby, short peek at what STW emotes would look like

Posted: 29 Aug 2018 10:54 AM PDT

Since I couldn't upload my Snoo on time, I'm just sharing it. :)

Posted: 29 Aug 2018 03:59 PM PDT

Bladestorm has same HAD as SMS so if you don't have SMS yet he's an alternative for support

Posted: 29 Aug 2018 05:15 PM PDT

That Side Step Tho

Posted: 28 Aug 2018 11:52 PM PDT

Abstaining from vote should not be a no vote

Posted: 29 Aug 2018 08:08 AM PDT

As the title says.....if 2 people vote to start and the other two do not even vote that should be good enough to start.

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Bladestorm enforcer buff pls

Posted: 29 Aug 2018 06:24 PM PDT

Reduce the energy cost of kunai.

Make kunai larger aoe.

Let us aim kunai.

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My 7th Grade Advanced English Project Front Page

Posted: 29 Aug 2018 04:14 PM PDT

You wouldn't think a game with this many bugs and errors is owned by a multi-million company.

Posted: 29 Aug 2018 06:44 AM PDT

Look, I am not going to lie, I do enjoy playing this game, but the amount of bugs and errors is actually unreal. Does BR make EPIC more money, probably yes, but is that an excuse to abandon and ignore StW? No.

Just from the top of my head these are some of the bugs and errors I have encountered from playing this game:

  • After completing a mission you will get no rewards. Literally nothing, you have just waste ammo, materials and most importantly, time.

  • If you are lucky enough to receive a level 6 reward chest after completing a mission, there is a high chance you will get the same loot rewards as a level 3-4 chest.

  • The matchmaking is awful, I don't know how this happens but you can be power level 70 and still get power level 20 people in your missions. This literally makes your squad have an entire less person in it who is just getting knocked over and over again. LOW POWER LEVEL PLAYERS SHOULD NOT BE IN THE SAME GAME AS HIGHER POWER LEVELS.

  • Expedition bug where it will say you have a 100% chance of successfully completing it, just to wait 16 hours for it to say it has failed.

  • Lag, the game will literally freeze for 2 seconds at a time, husks will disappear 2 seconds after killing them - and no, this has nothing to do with my PC or Internet, both are perfectly fine, this is something to do on EPICs side.

  • Audio lag, for some reason (especially on soldier after using the mini-gun) all bullet sounds and ambiance sound will just disappear until you reload.

  • EPIC said they added "dupe protection" in order to reduce the amount of duplicates you get from llamas, and from what I've noticed that is just a complete lie, there are hundreds of Reddit posts on here of people complaining about getting the same things over and over again from llamas.

  • Global chat, for the most part (before they decided to completely disable it) it was just filled with bots literally spamming the same link to a website that scams kids for real life currency, promising them in game items and loot. Now I am no genius but could they just not allow global chat to anyone that doesn't have a minimum amount of game time, so these power level 1 bot accounts that have never even been in game can no longer flood the chat.

  • "Trading" - notice how i put " ", because 98% of these people who want to trade will 100% be scammers. If the bots for some reason stop flooding the chat, a good amount of the real people in the global chat would be kids spamming "trade my homebase, type 123" or "invite me to trade!! have rly good 130 guns!!!" - I personally don't think trading is something that should be required in this game but I don't think there is a way of stopping these trades from happening, so just for the sake of keeping peoples loot safe, make a basic trading system where both players can inspect the item fully before agreeing on a trade which isn't done manually by dropping and running to pick up the other persons item.

I could go on and on with point after point of bugs and just general annoying things in this game. A game is something that should be enjoyable not something that brings so much frustration, this game is dying and that is 100% a fact. Just look at the state of this subreddit, every other post is just a bug or about something that ruined someones game experience. Everyone knows that Battle Royale is what made Fortnite explode, but to some people StW is the game that got them into it and those same people are quitting the game outright and at this point I doubt the game will make it out of early access. Feel free to comment all the other bugs I have left out for the small chance an EPIC employee see's this and maybe decide to do something about it.

So please EPIC, FIX THE GAME.

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Nothing like a drone's spawn inside your launcher's defense. Cameraman and his launcher died 10s later.

Posted: 29 Aug 2018 09:40 AM PDT

The average low PL Hordebash match

Posted: 29 Aug 2018 07:13 PM PDT

This weeks weekly horde challenge wasn't even that bad.

Posted: 29 Aug 2018 06:01 PM PDT

[HUMOR] I know it's a lot to ask

Posted: 29 Aug 2018 02:06 PM PDT

Magyst, any chance of some video tour/interview of the STW team?

Posted: 29 Aug 2018 11:15 AM PDT

Hey u/magyst was wondering if there was a possibility of some video tour instead of / conjunction with the next roadmap. Would love to see things from beyond your keyboard warriorship here on Reddit and perhaps get to hear from some of the internal teams about what they've been working on or what's interesting them in the game at the moment.

If it's a possibility let us know!

(If this has happened before somebody please link me)

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Mythic ninja quick analysis - Bladestorm enforcer

Posted: 29 Aug 2018 06:08 PM PDT

It's really early but I believe you've seen multiple topics about it; Bladestorm enforcer feels... not that good. His new Kunai ability was kinda promising, but the results aren't matching the expectations. The best thing to quickly analyse the hero is to compare it to our beloved top ninjas: Dragon, Shuriken Master, Harvester and Skirmisher.

Note that I'm doing this quick analysis for people wondering if it's worth buying. I'll let people such as /u/Details-Examples or /u/Whitesushii (or someone else) go deeper.

First of all, let's list what could be good and bad about this Ninja.

Pros:

- Fully ability focused. 3 damaging abilities: Dragon slash, Shurikens, and Kunai.

- Cover a large area by combining Kunai + Dragon slash

- Buffed shurikens

- Possibility to reduce an ability's cooldown to 0s. That's a possbility I've been waiting so much...

Cons:

- ... but you can't really exploit it. Cooldown is reduced by 2s for each ennemy killed. To have 0s cooldown you have to kill 8 ennemies, and there are two solutions: jump high enough to cover a large area -then you'll lack damage-, or cast it from the floor; in this case, you'll need super packed ennemies, and if you can achieve this repeatedly you're most likely in trouble because you're tanking too much

- Dragon slash has no buff. We can't have everything buffed, but having Kunai -which is melee- and shurikens -that can be used from afar- buffed makes you feel like you can't really wreck anything either at close or long range

- You have to use double jump (or use landscape or structures) to make good use of Kunai. Without this, the AoE (which depends on your height when launching it) will just be super tiny

Now compared to our superstar ninjas:

- Dragon has clearly a lot more AoE potential thanks to multiple buffs to Dragon slash. Fully focused on this spell, he has 100% melee focus and can deal massive AoE damage with good maniability

- Suriken master is useful in long range, but can also be used at close range thanks to the increased number of shurikens. To me, it'll be better at long range, but no matter the case, shurikens can be multi purpose unlike those of the Bladestorm

- Harvester has nothing to do with him since it's more scythe oriented than abilities oriented, but I feel like Bladestorm doesn't have as much survivability nor usefulness for a team

- Skirmisher would probably be the most comparable subclass, but here again I feel like Bladestorm is underwhelming compared to the others.

As a conclusion, I am disappointed of this new ninja. He doesn't look really good (more like a cloaked soldier than a ninja), has questionable abilities and skills, no real focus on either melee or distance, no other "useful perk" than buffs to two abilities, without one that looks strong enough to be worth it compared to other subclasses.

Feel free to leave your opinion about this character, and I hope this (really quick) analysis has been somewhat useful to any of you.

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